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Tigers look to US for help on finals failure

Jennifer Phelan 
afl.com.au
February 1, 2015 10:00 AM



RICHMOND'S coaches turned to a range of US sporting clubs in the off-season for advice on how to get their players past their back-to-back elimination final heartbreaks.
 
Damien Hardwick and two other coaches made the trip to the States to meet with elite clubs from the country's three major sporting codes – the NFL, the NBA and MLB.
 
It was a fact finding mission after the Tigers' disastrous 57-point loss to Port Adelaide in last year's elimination final, organised with the intention of working out how to minimise the mental scarring associated with consecutive failed finals bids.
 
Hardwick said it had helped to understand the reality of the Tigers' position and what they had to do next to move beyond the first week of the finals.
 
"Every side has a story," Hardwick told AFL.com.au.
 
"The reality of the situation is, there's many sides that have a similar sort of story of failure.
 
"Every failure is another opportunity to develop and that's the way we've got to look at it.
 
"There's no million dollar answer out there that you're looking for.
 
"The fact of the matter is it's all hard work and every side's trying to improve and get better.
 
"You've got to earn your right to get back there and give yourself a go."
 
The magnitude of the Power loss that came on the back of the Tigers' inspiring nine-match winning streak that qualified them for September caught many by surprise.
 
Fans travelled to Adelaide in droves for the game only to see what Hardwick has described as some of the worst football his side have played for a number of years.
 
Afterwards, the game was reviewed and analysed before the players went on holiday.
 
"It came out with not only a few home truths but some areas we can improve on this year going forward," Hardwick said.
 
"Like any loss, it was dissected thoroughly and you look for answers about why you didn't play to your absolute potential on the day.
 
"It can be put down to a number of things but probably the big one for us is Port Adelaide played an outstanding game of football.
 
"Us, as a football club, were really disappointing on the day.
 
"We played well below our expectations so we can break it down to a number of things we can look at to improve this year but the reality is, we didn't play well on the day and we'll take that into this year."
 
While the coaches sought advice from overseas, Hardwick has also looked closer to home to see the how the progression of teams in a similar position to the Tigers of today has panned out.
 
He said West Coast in seasons 2002-04, when the club failed at the first finals hurdle before back-to-back Grand Final appearances and the 2006 premiership, was an encouraging example.
 
"They lost three elimination finals and two years later they win a Grand Final," he said.
 
"We've just got to give ourselves another opportunity to get back there so our next session is our most important; all those types of things.
 
"We've got to make sure we get the opportunity to get there because once you're there, you're a one in eight chance to win it – but you've got to get there first."
 
While it's early in the pre-season, Hardwick says there are already signs the players are determined to move beyond the heartache.
 
They'll enter the NAB Challenge with a different mindset to last year, with a squad made up of players mainly under the age of 23 to play in their first hit-out – against the Western Bulldogs on February 28 - before the older ones are eased in.
 
"The players have come back hungry for greater success," he said.
 
"We were disappointed with our finish last year and probably to a lesser degree our season overall.
 
"The situation is, we've got to get better.
 
"We're looking to rectify that result and work hard, and like other sides, looking forward to getting to round one and seeing how we go."

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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 02:36:17 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2015, 02:45:11 PM »
 :facepalm :facepalm

For stuff sake. This proves they have NFI of their own
and a healthy budget.

Sack this idiot coaching staff ASAP.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2015, 03:10:39 PM »
I agree with Filthy Phil and The Ox.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2015, 03:11:27 PM »
A lot of money to spend only to look in the hall of mirrors.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2015, 04:28:55 PM »
Another page in the chapter of incompetence
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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2015, 04:56:14 PM »
its pretty simple.
Middling teams lose finals. For as long as they think they have a side thats better than middling then we will be doomed to failure. Have they not sat back and and gone nope we werent good enough  we must keep on building. Clearly they havent hence they have turned to the USA for answers.
Damien a word for you mate We were spanked by a far better side who did not allow us to play well. Your lucky not to be picking over a 100 point thrashing instead of a 59 point easing off.

When are you going to ask yourself?  why do we keep on losing big important games. Answer that and you and your staff wouldnt need to go to the good ole US of A  for answers. Just a little honesty will get you the answer your looking for.If you cant make the hard decisions that are needed mate get out and let someone else have a go who will.


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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2015, 04:58:05 PM »
I remember an extended time not too long ago when we couldn't even get to the big important games

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2015, 05:03:59 PM »
Progressive I like it ,,,,,,a lot , nice work Tigers ,,,again , :shh last trip we made was How to make the finals , good thinking to close this out  :clapping
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2015, 05:26:07 PM »
I remember an extended time not too long ago when we couldn't even get to the big important games

Yeah but that was when we were a middling side that lost games, now we are a middling side that loses big games
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2015, 05:37:42 PM »
here i was thinking we hadnt won a big game since sept 15 2001.

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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2015, 06:09:48 PM »
Not sure about the angst on here to be honest

Other clubs have done exactly the same thing

Hawthorn did it a few years back. Folks on here praised them for it and the questioned why the RFC wasn't doing the same thing in an effort to improve

Now they go off and do one of these trips and folks bag them for it

Can't win  :-\
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2015, 06:38:06 PM »
clarko went what 3 years ago. Dimma goes now.

Clarko brings in ratten and port bring in voss. Dimma replaces leppa and daly with who, i forgot??

so on those numbers in 3 years we might get a descent replacement.

yet his going to the states for answers about why they have been embarrassed 2 years running. :lol




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Re: Tigers look to US for help on finals failure ......... (afl site)
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2015, 06:40:25 PM »
Not sure about the angst on here to be honest

Other clubs have done exactly the same thing

Hawthorn did it a few years back. Folks on here praised them for it and the questioned why the RFC wasn't doing the same thing in an effort to improve

Now they go off and do one of these trips and folks bag them for it

Can't win  :-\
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