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Offline Chuck17

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2015, 10:39:45 AM »
Let's get Eade then

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2015, 11:06:10 AM »
The problem is all the talk of how we can't sack a bloke when we've made finals two years in a row.

Knocked out in elims twice. Some people find that unacceptable.

If we accept a finals appearance as a pass mark we'll stay about that mark. Top 4 is the only good indication that you have a shot at the flag. That should be the benchmark.

Tough decisions need to be made sometimes. Like sacking a bloke who made two elimination losses in a row.

And how has Carlscum gone after sacking their so so coach in Ratten, where things slowly were improving. To mick the master coach. Backwards and downwards. It gutted the existing players and Mick has had to replace most of the list to go where?   Nowhere zone.

The same would happen to us. Hardwicks team would be bust and we wouldnt get back to finals until we replaced 20 players and got 50+ games into them. 3 years minimum.

You realise these wankers beat us in an elimination final? I'm not exactly laughing at Carlton mate, I still consider them a genuine threat come round 1.


If I had suggested the following, would you have disagreed?


Summer '13-'14
- Not renewing Hardwick's contract last summer, but instead waiting until mid-season 2014 to review (This is reasonable IMO. Tail doesn't wag the dog after all, and losing to Carlton was unacceptable)

Mid-season '14
- Telling Hardwick that he had the good faith of RFC for making finals in 2013, so he wouldn't be sacked for being around the 3-0-10 mark which was clearly a step backwards

End of season 2014
- Deciding Hardwick's inability to prepare the team for a finals match in SA was unacceptable. The players were terrified. I was there...
- Realising that Bomber was no longer going to be working at EFC, and he clearly still enjoyed being a senior coach
- Throwing the sink at Bomber ($3mil for 3 years or thereabouts)
- Renew Hardwicks contract for ONE year/consider other coaches if Bomber didn't take the money (but hey, money talks)


If we had done that I wouldn't have been upset at all. I'd much rather have Bomber coaching RFC than Hardwick, or Malthouse/Roos/Voss for that matter.

The problem is that Hardwick's plan seems to be peaking already. His insistence on persevering with players like Grigg, Newman, Petterd etc is the perfect example of why our club will stagnate. We need a coach who will tell Newman he's finished and clogging the list, tell Grigg he's too gutless, tell Petterd he's only a backup player not a starting 22. Three-year contract for Foley on the back on excellent rehab-attitude? Please...

Hey it's not at cutthroat as the 80's and 90's etc but Hardwick has had five whole years to build the RFC list now. Look at what Ken Hinkley has done! Look at how Malthouse repeatedly either beats RFC or pushes us deep into the final QTR by out-coaching Hardwick! We clearly don't have a premiership bloke at the helm. That needs to change.

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #62 on: February 22, 2015, 11:21:19 AM »
Let's get Eade then

Why?

Reason I asked is that Hardwick may be another Eade..

He can get them to finals and that's it, he cant get them into or winning a GF, there are others like that too, Malthouse was like that the Dogs, Eade was again like that at the Swans. Hardwick may just fall into that category...
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2015, 11:33:01 AM »
Don't think Malthouse coached the dogs

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #64 on: February 22, 2015, 11:41:43 AM »
Don't think Malthouse coached the dogs

Sure did.  His first coaching gig, before the Weagles.

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2015, 12:25:55 PM »
Finals separate wheat from chaff.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2015, 12:34:10 PM »
Eade has a significantly better record than Dimma but perhaps unfair to compare after 5 years. Bomber,Roos etc would never coach Richmond. Bomber still thinks we are an ordinary, deluded club.
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2015, 12:44:36 PM »
Don't be so sure.  :shh
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2015, 01:08:01 PM »
Don't think Malthouse coached the dogs

Yeah he did mate.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2015, 03:05:17 PM »
i am not sure why one win is acceptable by some here.

screw that even blues can at least a final so what we want to be on par with them do we? 

we can beat hawks, swans and freo so IMO with a coach who has a plan b we can finish top 4.

Ahh the mythical plan B.

Which clubs have a plan B and more importantly, how does it differ to their plan A?

The other thing that amuses me in regards to this plan B, if we ever dare try a player in different positions, something that would give a coach versatility required to alter their plan, they get howled down with criticism for doing so.
so the other question is, if you only have players you can play one position, how doe you implement plan B
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2015, 04:06:38 PM »
I don't see it as plan B, I see Hardwick's problem that he is unable to respond to anything other teams do.

He doesn't alter plan A, so when a club plays a man behind the footy or changes forward or midfield structure we just sit and get smashed for 3 quarters before he does anything.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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With their tanks and their bombs,
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2015, 06:43:27 PM »
I don't see it as plan B, I see Hardwick's problem that he is unable to respond to anything other teams do.

He doesn't alter plan A, so when a club plays a man behind the footy or changes forward or midfield structure we just sit and get smashed for 3 quarters before he does anything.

I'm picking up what you're putting down.  :thumbsup
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2015, 06:58:01 PM »
I don't see it as plan B, I see Hardwick's problem that he is unable to respond to anything other teams do.

He doesn't alter plan A, so when a club plays a man behind the footy or changes forward or midfield structure we just sit and get smashed for 3 quarters before he does anything.

So get a match day coach.

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2015, 08:35:21 PM »
So much analysis, think I'll just rock up at bullfrogs next sat and take each day as it comes and enjoy it!

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2015, 08:38:55 PM »
I don't see it as plan B, I see Hardwick's problem that he is unable to respond to anything other teams do.

He doesn't alter plan A, so when a club plays a man behind the footy or changes forward or midfield structure we just sit and get smashed for 3 quarters before he does anything.

So get a match day coach.

Yep #bomber2016

Of course he will want the Senior Coach job so as long as Damien is happy to carry on as an assistant then all good.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...