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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #105 on: February 23, 2015, 02:51:33 PM »
Funny how no one mentions the successful 'plan Bs' when we win.
Coaching a heck of a lot more complicated than one or two 'plans'

Mr M, care to mention a few examples which has won us a game? I'm sure there are a few minor 'change ups' or tweaks but no fundamental plan Bs or even, simply, significant changes to our game style from quarter to quarter that have been noticeably effective. Not that I've noticed anyway.

When we do win it's off the persistence and attrition of a very very similar game plan combined with good teamwork and individual excellence from 3-4 players
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #106 on: February 23, 2015, 03:18:37 PM »
At least we have established that Hardwick can devise & employ a plan B to win a match!    ;D 
   
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2015, 03:26:20 PM »
At least we have established that Hardwick can devise & employ a plan B to win a match!    ;D 
 

Lol only in your mind JP.  :huh

Anyhoot, examples please people.
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #108 on: February 23, 2015, 03:45:51 PM »
At least we have established that Hardwick can devise & employ a plan B to win a match!    ;D 
 

I think we have established his best work is his plan p - panic.
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #109 on: February 23, 2015, 04:08:04 PM »
One thing that we have established is that even when Dimma wins he loses

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #110 on: February 23, 2015, 04:21:28 PM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #111 on: February 23, 2015, 05:25:14 PM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #112 on: February 23, 2015, 06:49:09 PM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
You are only as good as your cattle.......

Simplistic view again. Is this the depth of knowledge of the average Richmond fan? Geez.....

Some teams get more out of their cattle than others......
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #113 on: February 23, 2015, 08:21:01 PM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
You are only as good as your cattle.......

Simplistic view again. Is this the depth of knowledge of the average Richmond fan? Geez.....

Some teams get more out of their cattle than others......
Why do you think Hardwick hasn't hot the best out of a bad bunch rather than held back a good bunch?
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #114 on: February 23, 2015, 08:28:03 PM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
You are only as good as your cattle.......

Simplistic view again. Is this the depth of knowledge of the average Richmond fan? Geez.....

Some teams get more out of their cattle than others......
Why do you think Hardwick hasn't hot the best out of a bad bunch rather than held back a good bunch?

I reckon he's got an average amount out of an average list
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #115 on: February 23, 2015, 09:11:36 PM »
Agreed, I think a very good coach could have created a team that could compete in the top 4.

Hardwick may still do that but I think a Malthouse/Lyon type who squeeze everything out of their lists by being strong tactically would have already had us finishing higher than 8th.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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With their tanks and their bombs,
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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #116 on: February 23, 2015, 09:13:13 PM »
What about Sheedy

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #117 on: February 23, 2015, 09:17:09 PM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
You are only as good as your cattle.......

Simplistic view again. Is this the depth of knowledge of the average Richmond fan? Geez.....

Some teams get more out of their cattle than others......
not so simplistic imo. just a straight up reason why we have not progressed.

hardwick may well have the cattle to play bruise free footy but he certainly doesnt have the cattle to play one v one or the keepings of type of game  that is needed at times. every time i have seen an opposing side go 1v 1 against us we have struggled, we dont have enough players with the right skillset  to play keepings off. we struggle to implement zones because we dont have the players who will work both ways. it is very much a cattle problem

i remember my mate at the eagles going crook all the time in 03 04 05 06 about  them playing zones. they would always get into trouble and then go one v one and get up and win most games. he couldnt work out why 1 v1 was not the #1 way to play and if that failed try something different.
the game is bloody simple you have an opponent beat him, have enough players capable of doing that and all the hoo haaa with zones and roling zones etc is moot to some degree..

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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #118 on: February 23, 2015, 09:31:49 PM »


I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.


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Re: Rumour is....
« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2015, 01:32:05 AM »
It's a simplistic view to suggest this is just a witch hunt.

I'm happy to give Hardwick his dues on his strengths, he is very good at creating a bond with his players for example.

But as a tactician/match-day coach he is very weak and that is crucial to be a top four side, let alone a premiership side.
You are only as good as your cattle.......
Simplistic view again. Is this the depth of knowledge of the average Richmond fan? Geez.....

Some teams get more out of their cattle than others......
not so simplistic imo. just a straight up reason why we have not progressed.

hardwick may well have the cattle to play bruise free footy but he certainly doesnt have the cattle to play one v one or the keepings of type of game  that is needed at times. every time i have seen an opposing side go 1v 1 against us we have struggled, we dont have enough players with the right skillset  to play keepings off. we struggle to implement zones because we dont have the players who will work both ways it is very much a cattle problem

i remember my mate at the eagles going crook all the time in 03 04 05 06 about  them playing zones. they would always get into trouble and then go one v one and get up and win most games. he couldnt work out why 1 v1 was not the #1 way to play and if that failed try something different.
the game is bloody simple you have an opponent beat him, have enough players capable of doing that and all the hoo haaa with zones and roling zones etc is moot to some degree..
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