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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #255 on: June 06, 2015, 04:47:40 PM »
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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #256 on: June 06, 2015, 10:32:54 PM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #257 on: June 06, 2015, 10:36:56 PM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

not true chucky. a lot of us have been here for years consistently posting whether we were winning or not  :thumbsup

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #258 on: June 07, 2015, 12:14:19 AM »
It was as an impressive win as I've seen since Swooper was yelling at our players...but then so was the 10 goal flogging of Hawthorn in 2012...7 weeks later we lost to a team full of 18 year-olds who were 0 -15 when a Rugby League player kicked a goal after the siren. We finished 12th that year. Just sayin'.....
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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #259 on: June 07, 2015, 08:27:18 AM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

not true chucky. a lot of us have been here for years consistently posting whether we were winning or not  :thumbsup

From my point of view I see poster changing there stance when we are winning vs when we are losing. Claw consistently posts his negative view regardless of how we are performing.

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #260 on: June 07, 2015, 09:00:08 AM »
yep claw has held the same line for a long time now.....I mostly don't agree with him,but I read what he says and you gotta respect a bloke for staying the course and holding onto his beliefs

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #261 on: June 07, 2015, 09:04:54 AM »
I also don't agree with everything he says, but he gets a lot of things right.
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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #262 on: June 07, 2015, 10:05:25 AM »
Yep like still maintaining Rance and Edwards are average. At least most posters can admit they are wrong at times. Strange lot in here..

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #263 on: June 07, 2015, 10:35:09 AM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

not true chucky. a lot of us have been here for years consistently posting whether we were winning or not  :thumbsup

From my point of view I see poster changing there stance when we are winning vs when we are losing. Claw consistently posts his negative view regardless of how we are performing.

you have to give credit when and where it is due. at the moment the team is playing well. you cant criticize their effort at the moment. someone cant always be negative and they cant always be positive. attitudes to performance should change depending on results effort commitment etc etc. when their is little effort they deserve to be criticized if they play the way they have played the last 4 weeks they deserve credit and positive reinforcement.  :thumbsup

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #264 on: June 07, 2015, 10:40:03 AM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

not true chucky. a lot of us have been here for years consistently posting whether we were winning or not  :thumbsup

From my point of view I see poster changing there stance when we are winning vs when we are losing. Claw consistently posts his negative view regardless of how we are performing.

you have to give credit when and where it is due. at the moment the team is playing well. you cant criticize their effort at the moment. someone cant always be negative and they cant always be positive. attitudes to performance should change depending on results effort commitment etc etc. when their is little effort they deserve to be criticized if they play the way they have played the last 4 weeks they deserve credit and positive reinforcement.  :thumbsup

exactly.. I think what they're saying is that you have to stick to you pigheaded views no matter how wrong you may be. If you're big enough to admit your wrong, you're a douche. As I said - strange lot

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #265 on: June 07, 2015, 11:47:59 AM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

not true chucky. a lot of us have been here for years consistently posting whether we were winning or not  :thumbsup

From my point of view I see poster changing there stance when we are winning vs when we are losing. Claw consistently posts his negative view regardless of how we are performing.

you have to give credit when and where it is due. at the moment the team is playing well. you cant criticize their effort at the moment. someone cant always be negative and they cant always be positive. attitudes to performance should change depending on results effort commitment etc etc. when their is little effort they deserve to be criticized if they play the way they have played the last 4 weeks they deserve credit and positive reinforcement.  :thumbsup

exactly.. I think what they're saying is that you have to stick to you pigheaded views no matter how wrong you may be. If you're big enough to admit your wrong, you're a douche. As I said - strange lot

Spot on TM

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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #266 on: June 07, 2015, 11:49:53 AM »
Actually Claw was the only poster who would put his view across regardless if we won or lost.

You can't acuse claw of being a Dr before a host of others on this site

not true chucky. a lot of us have been here for years consistently posting whether we were winning or not  :thumbsup

From my point of view I see poster changing there stance when we are winning vs when we are losing. Claw consistently posts his negative view regardless of how we are performing.

you have to give credit when and where it is due. at the moment the team is playing well. you cant criticize their effort at the moment. someone cant always be negative and they cant always be positive. attitudes to performance should change depending on results effort commitment etc etc. when their is little effort they deserve to be criticized if they play the way they have played the last 4 weeks they deserve credit and positive reinforcement.  :thumbsup

Nailed it Ramps. My thoughts exactly  :thumbsup
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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #267 on: June 07, 2015, 11:54:50 AM »
Two themes spring to mind over the past 4 weeks.

1. Consistency of effort and intensity
2. No passengers

Keep this up and I have no issue with our coach/coaching staff.

You can see every single player even the ones that have a quiet game are having a red hot crack. No weak links. All it takes is one or two not to run hard both ways and bang you get cut up. I don't want to bring negativity into it bc Im on a stuffing high, but I am dreading seeing Newman get back into this side.

and for the first time in Dimmas tenure, 3 big forwards is working for us structure wise. Whichever combination of  Vickery/mcBean/Griffiths with jack, they are spreading a lot better and stretching opposition defenders. And I noticed they are now going to the pockets to force stoppages at the right time ie under fierce pressure and when outnumbered, otherwise they are now looking for better options and hitting them up.

Good work all round

Yep spot on 2 big factors also are:

1. Defensive positioning and pressure
2. Team selection. (Been a while since we've bagged the club for picking Petterd, Gordon, Newman, Lloyd, Arnot etc.) finally we are getting our best team on the park and not favouring players that should have retired and should not have been picked up.
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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #268 on: June 07, 2015, 12:10:12 PM »
claw doesn't post when we win
That is most certainly not true.Win lose or draw ive posted my thoughts.In fact i have gone out of my way to post when we win in fear of being accused of doing exactly  the above.

 I decided about 5 6 weeks ago ? to stop  posting on here on a regular basis. Too many hassles for one.  Secondly i had little more to say i had made what points i wanted to make.Icould see no point in all the nit picking.
This is the first post ive done in that time and it will probably be awhile before i post again.

Fremantle game. Arrived with 10 minutes to go in the first so missed most of the first quarter unfortunately.Have seen replay.
Will say i was very impressed with their effort and i congratulate them on a top effort.
Imo it is the defensive side of the game that has improved. we seem to have found a decent defensive system and are playing to it pretty well.Individually most are running hard both ways tackling and just working harder for each other and putting heads over the ball.

Yep like still maintaining Rance and Edwards are average. At least most posters can admit they are wrong at times. Strange lot in here..

I think i conceded at least 18months ago that Rance had become a very good player. What i have done is stand by my comments on him along the way. How quickly you forget the falling over, the horrid 1v1 efforts, the constant miss timed fists and the getting caught out of position and the poor kicks.I refuse to retract any of those comments he was poor in lots of areas.He deserved all the criticism he got.
 These things still happen to a much lesser degree.  Parts of his game are elite, other  parts are still pretty average IMO.
I still maintain we need to find 2 quality kpds and have Alex play the third tall defender role if we are to become a premiership side.Thats not saying Rance cant play kp hes done it very well in recent times.

Edwards i may have to eat a little humble pie we will see. This yr he has been in the main very good. The  only poor game i can think of was against port.
My trouble with Edwards is, iv'e seen him 3 or 4 times thru his career string together good games, only to slip back to regular  mediocrity.
While im prepared to say that this yr hes been great!!!!  I will reserve judgment until he can finally string good seasons together. I will be honest im waiting for the bubble to burst with him, as it has done in the past.

On the team and list over all. 4 in a row and playing some good footy. That said i think we need to improve on several players if we are to challenge. I have never been a believer that winning  actually solves  problems.  Usually it just papers over what really needs to be done.
We can always be better and imo we need to be much better still in several areas. I won't go into players its been done to death. I will say though i was very disappointed with both Vickery and Griffiths last night.. Both started very well and both invariably faded to obscurity almost. Fremantle had just one kpd for three quarters and it was disappointing one of these two could not get off the chain and play a blinder.

Watched several players closely and was not impressed. some things dont change despite the winning.

Any way good luck to all, happy posting and i will say hi when next i pop in here.



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Re: Richmond vs Fremantle @ Subiaco Oval - Round 10, 2015
« Reply #269 on: June 07, 2015, 12:32:27 PM »
Claw before you go on your sabbatical any update opinion on Morro?