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B & F Results
« on: September 16, 2005, 08:25:32 PM »
Best Clubman:  Chris Newman
Best 1st Year Player:  Brett Deledio
Most Improved:  Kayne Pettifer
Best Coburg:  Adam Pattison
B & F = Bowden
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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2005, 10:25:58 PM »
What I can't understand is that the result was leaked earlier on afl.com.au (although I couldn't find the actual thing?) and on another forum they were saying they knew who the winner was around 8.30pm???

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2005, 11:08:20 PM »
1. Bowden 221
2. Richardson 220
3. Tuck 197
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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2005, 11:30:44 PM »
How does Tuck not yet most improved player?

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2005, 11:44:41 PM »
Bowden gets home in a thriller
11:00:00 PM Fri 16 September, 2005
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Richmond deputy vice-captain Joel Bowden has become the first Tiger to win successive Jack Dyer Medals for nearly 20 years after winning a thrilling 2005 best and fairest count on Friday night.

Bowden became the first Richmond player since Dale Weightman in 1986 and 1987 to win successive club champion awards as Matthew Richardson was yet again just pipped in his bid to win his first club best and fairest.

In a thrilling count Bowden polled 221 votes to beat Richardson by just one vote with pre-count favourite Shane Tuck finishing third on 197 votes while Nathan Brown finished in the top 10 despite breaking suffering his season-ending broken leg injury as early as round 10.

The victory caps off a huge year for Bowden, who this year was named in the All-Australian side for the first time following his creative play across hakf-back.

But for Richardson - who this season won the Tigers' club goalkicking award for the 10th time in the past 12 years - it was yet another runner-up finish in the Jack Dyer Medal.

It was the fourth time the veteran spearhead has finished runner-up without winning the Tigers' top individual award after also having finished second in 1996, 1999 and 2002.

This was despite Richardson producing arguably the most consistent season of his illustrious career as he played all 22 games and kicked 65 goals as well as being ranked number one in the competition for contested marks after taking a total of 169 marks for the season at an average of nearly eight per game.

However it just wasn't quite enough as Bowden, who also played all 22 games, became the 23rd player in Richmond's history to win more than one club best and fairest.

The talented left-footer gathered 508 possessions throughout the season, at an average of 23.1 per game in his sweeping role across half-back and also drove the ball out of the Tigers' defensive 50 an astonishing 137 times for the season - which led to Bowden being named on the half-back flank in this year's All-Australian side.

Tuck, arguably the AFL's most improved player this season, finished third after only being the last player to win his place on the Tigers' senior list at the start of the season.

But Tuck was the Tigers' leading possession winner for the season with 526 touches at an average of just under 24 per game as well as averaging five clearances per game and driving the ball inside 50 an average of 4.5 times per game to establish himself as an elite AFL midfielder.

The votes were cast by all five Richmond match committee members with the most votes any player could receive in one game being 25 votes.

Other award winners announced on Jack Dyer Medal night were:

Fans’ Choice: Shane Tuck
Best Clubman: Chris Newman
Rising Star: Brett Deledio
Leading Goalkicker: Matthew Richardson
Most Improved Player: Kayne Pettifer
Best Performed Player at Coburg: Adam Pattison
Most Valuable Person: Brian Royal

Following is a list of the top 10 vote-getters in the 2005 Jack Dyer Medal:

2005 Jack Dyer Medal

1st: Joel Bowden 221
2nd: Matthew Richardson 220
3rd: Shane Tuck 197
4th: Darren Gaspar 184
5th: Mark Coughlan 172
6th: Chris Newman 171
7th: Kane Johnson 147
8th: Wayne Campbell 141
9th: Troy Simmonds 140
10th: Nathan Brown 129

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=229817

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2005, 11:52:30 PM »
Joel B&F?  :gobdrop

Simmonds in the top 20 of the B&F?  :gobdrop  :gobdrop




Poor Richo. He'll never win the B&F. 
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Re: B & F Results
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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2005, 05:34:06 AM »
I'm still surprised Joel won but congratulations to him. He had another very good year to back up 2004.

Poor Richo was stiff to miss out by one lousey vote :( while Tucky had elite stats for a midfielder this year but still finished 40 votes behind. Obviously the coaches factored in more that what we saw during each game.

Kellaway was another who's lower than I would have expected from a coaches viewpoint. Missing those 5-6 weeks clearly costed him a top 10 spot.

It would have been nice if the AFL site hadn't leaked the results before the night ::). It appears they had the files up on afl.com.au well before the official announcement just as they did with the AA side. 
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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2005, 05:44:05 PM »
Didn't Richo come second to Cambo by a vote in one of the other B&F's as well? Possibly 1999.

As for Bowden, all his Christmases came at once this year - other than getting the captaincy, which might have been a reason why they went lenient on him in the B&F voting (lol, I have to find some way to explain it which I can bear)

Hopefully Tuck gets spurred on by finishing third to go nuts over preseason and be better than ever next year.

We need lots and I mean LOTS of improvement from our other blokes next year. Says something when a benchwarmer finishes 8th best in the B&F.  :help

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2005, 07:08:54 PM »
Not sure John but it must have been either 1996 or 99 when Richo narrowly missed out. Tucky's dad of course knows about being a great player but missing out on a club B&F.

Bowden was best on ground for us against Geelong down at the cattery so Richo must have been leading the B&F count with one round to go  :P.

I wonder if sharing the awards around was a deliberate ploy to build up confidence in as many Tigers as possible going into the preseason.

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2005, 07:52:49 PM »
Wallace was on Fox Footy central talking about the prelim final, and they asked him about the B&F, and he mentioned that if Richo hadn't of gotten knocked out in the Carlton game he probably would of won the B&F.

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2005, 02:41:09 AM »
Wallace was on Fox Footy central talking about the prelim final, and they asked him about the B&F, and he mentioned that if Richo hadn't of gotten knocked out in the Carlton game he probably would of won the B&F.

Richo wanted to come back on in the second half too in that game.

Richo would have won it also if Joel missed a week instead of bravely playing with a metal plate in his face 4-5 days after having the op to fix his cracked cheekbone. Then again if Browny hadn't snapped his leg Richo, Bowden, Tuck and all would have ended up daylight behind him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2005, 07:01:28 AM »
exactly mt

i was at the brownlow night, great night and i tell y a, terry just knows waht to say when he speaks! he is a very accute and intelligent man!

back to the votes, it would have been nice and romantic if richo had have won, but as terry said, to come second 4 times now just shjows what a consistant champ richo is. he may have won it if the carlton game ended differently, he may have won if joel took a weelk off to recover from the fractured cheek, brown may have won if he never broke his leg, but the fact are , joel won it again, he was all australian, he had an outstanding and much underrated yr imo. we should all stand up and bow to the man who plays like our captain, on and off the feild leads like our captain  and the man man who should have been our captain! he has definatley come of age, is a very intelligent person and shows many gr8 characteristics!  joel well done, the coaches vote 4 the medal, and now u have won it 2 times in a row with 2 different panels of voters abnd coaching staff members!!! well done champ

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2005, 07:01:45 AM »
exactly mt

i was at the brownlow night, great night and i tell y a, terry just knows waht to say when he speaks! he is a very accute and intelligent man!

back to the votes, it would have been nice and romantic if richo had have won, but as terry said, to come second 4 times now just shjows what a consistant champ richo is. he may have won it if the carlton game ended differently, he may have won if joel took a weelk off to recover from the fractured cheek, brown may have won if he never broke his leg, but the fact are , joel won it again, he was all australian, he had an outstanding and much underrated yr imo. we should all stand up and bow to the man who plays like our captain, on and off the feild leads like our captain  and the man man who should have been our captain! he has definatley come of age, is a very intelligent person and shows many gr8 characteristics!  joel well done, the coaches vote 4 the medal, and now u have won it 2 times in a row with 2 different panels of voters abnd coaching staff members!!! well done champ

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Re: B & F Results
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2005, 12:40:39 PM »
Good luck to Joel and all the other award winners. :thumbsup

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The votes were cast by all five Richmond match committee members with the most votes any player could receive in one game being 25 votes.

Even though we remember the efforts of some players more than others, throughout the course of a season, it doesn’t really follow that they are seen as the best player.  Consistency seems to be a key factor and probably behind the reason why there are surprise winners at various Clubs.

The way Clubs cast votes doesn’t really get talked about.  Not sure how many methods of voting are around, but it seems as though every Club has their own way of deciding a B&F winner.

Not sure why that is, but there must be a system that can be used by all Clubs, rather than leaving it up to each coaching panel to work out their own system.  They all should supposedly come up with the B&F player, so why the need to chop and change whenever a new coach/coaching panel is installed at a Club?  Just seems a bit odd.

We need lots and I mean LOTS of improvement from our other blokes next year. Says something when a benchwarmer finishes 8th best in the B&F. :help

And someone who only played 10 games finishes in the top 10.  Double :help
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