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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #120 on: September 16, 2015, 11:39:27 PM »
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #121 on: September 17, 2015, 08:07:49 AM »
Get it done Tigers, get it done!!!!! We could actually get him cheap, lets face it, the Suns want him gone...

Would rather have Aish but Redden may be the go.

Yarran all the in in talks.. :banghead
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #122 on: September 17, 2015, 08:52:30 AM »
look into tigers deeply no second guessing he will be 23 years old if we can turn him around would be the buy of the season I even think he would be better then treloar sum may doubt that but bennell kicks goals and creates that run we so badly need, 400k instead of treloar 800 which would free us up for another highly regarded player  who that one is we will not no all hype.... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #123 on: September 17, 2015, 08:57:00 AM »
look into tigers deeply no second guessing he will be 23 years old if we can turn him around would be the buy of the season I even think he would be better then treloar sum may doubt that but bennell kicks goals and creates that run we so badly need, 400k instead of treloar 800 which would free us up for another highly regarded player  who that one is we will not no all hype.... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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I agree. The downside is we waste $400K on a player who is constantly getting into trouble and unable to get on the field and is a total nutcase. He may even influence some of the young players and disrupt the team.  It really is a "rolling the dice" scenario. It's either a huge win or a huge loss.
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #124 on: September 17, 2015, 09:51:38 AM »
It'd rather risk it on a potential top 10 player

Than 400k on proven hacks
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #125 on: September 17, 2015, 10:03:17 AM »
Surely we couldnt get Bennell, Treloar and Yarran could we? :shh :shh :shh

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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #126 on: September 17, 2015, 10:06:22 AM »
Surely we couldnt get Bennell, Treloar and Yarran could we? :shh :shh :shh

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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #127 on: September 17, 2015, 10:29:05 AM »

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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2015, 10:36:44 AM »
I will believe it when he kicks his first goal for us next year!!
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2015, 11:07:07 AM »
After his 4th whiz in at Winsor, with a tranny Harley and dusty
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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #130 on: September 17, 2015, 11:11:11 AM »
Just take him.

When he's about to hit rock bottom trade him to Sydney like Hawthorn did with Franklin.

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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #131 on: September 17, 2015, 01:22:01 PM »
Who's brave enough to play Bennell Powerball?

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September 17, 2015


THERE is a very big deal to be made here.

It is available to the club most prepared to leap into the fearful, ugly unknown. It entails massive risk, will almost certainly cause problems. Your supporters will question you, maybe forever.

The potential fallout? Total embarrassment for everyone associated with it.

Potential reward? Like finding the numbers in Powerball. In a jackpot week.

The deal’s name is Harley Bennell, he of Gold Coast Football Club infamy.

In Bennell’s football life, there has been alcohol, drugs, generally poor behaviour and a whole lot of questionable commitment.

But, there has also been breathtaking, elite football.

Do the form yourself, but recent examples include the 39 disposals he managed in his return to football against Adelaide in round 17 this year after a club-imposed three-week ban, the brilliant match-winning performance in round seven last year against North Melbourne, after he had missed the opening six rounds with a serious calf injury, and the six goals versus Geelong last year in round 14.

AFL clubs are so conservative when it comes to recruiting bad boys. In American sports, where ownership of teams is corporate and there are no such things as two-year plans let alone five-year plans, only the pursuit of instant wins, bad boys are all the rage, provided they can play their chosen sport at the highest output.

If Bennell was an NFL player, there would be 31 clubs chasing him hard right now.

But he’s an AFL player, which means not every club outside the one with which he is listed wants him.

This is not to trivialise his past problems, for clearly he has issues which are not conducive to optimum sports output.

But a smart club, right now, would devise an arrangement which is no-lose for it.

Bennell’s talents as a footballer are so elite that he alone is capable of taking a losing preliminary finalist in one year to a Grand Final the next year, a losing semi-finalist to a prelim final and maybe a Grand Final, a losing elimination finalist (hello Richmond!) to quite possibly a Grand Finalist.

He is that good. He is the cream on the cake.

Yes, he is not the answer for every team. In fact, we would recommend that teams which feel they will not compete for a top eight finish in the next two years go nowhere near this man.

If he is the best player on your list with the responsibility that comes with that, look out. He certainly hasn’t handled being the second most gifted player on the Gold Coast list.

The deal to which we refer also applies to the Suns.

Naturally, expectedly, justifiably, they will try to get maximum return for him in the transaction they opt for in relieving their books and playing list of his salary and problems.

Naturally, expectedly, justifiably, the Suns will want to send him to a poorly performed club so that Bennell doesn’t be seen to hurt them for his loss, and also because those poorly performed clubs will have access to better draft picks for such an exchange.

All 17 clubs outside of the Suns would not think twice about having Bennell on their list if the issue was purely football talent.

Which leaves the better credentialed clubs in the box seat for his talents. They have the reason to recruit him, and the challenge to make it work for them.

Rather than consigning Bennell to the too-difficult category, they should be devising offers which are heavily based on performance as an individual, and by extension as a team, and therefore placing the onus on Bennell himself to make it work financially.

Make the first year of the contract purely performance based (as in, no really big money unless he plays at least 16 games), add another clause that instant dismissal will come on the back of an even minor off-field incident at any stage of the contract, and then add some seriously lucrative financial incentives for a premiership, and woo-la, it’s a no-lose situation for a prospective club.

In 2015, AFL clubs have become ridiculously scared of, and beholden to, the thoughts of their members and supporters.

But as per our devised deal potential, selling the potential recruit of Bennell to members and supporters would be a no-lose scenario too.

If you are a middle-aged coach or middle-aged official of a club which likes Bennell’s on-field game but not his off-field game, you should not automatically rule him out.

His problems are alcohol based, not drugs based.

Had it not been for News Limited recently deciding to pay money for, and then publish, photos of him doing drugs when he was a 20-year-old - after multiple other media outlets chose not to pay for the same photos simply because the photos were of a then-impressionable 20-year-old doing something he shouldn’t have been doing - then the perception of Bennell would not be so stark.

And before you think we are taking a lenient view of drug use, we are not. Check our regularly expressed views on drugs and particularly the too-lenient AFL drugs policy. But there is not one parent, who at some stage, hasn’t asked him or herself if they really know if their late-teen or early-20s son or daughter has done drugs.

Bennell has. And so have hundreds of thousands of other Australians his age. So what. And again, this is not making light of his off-field issues. Bennell's drugs issues have always come on the back of alcohol consumption. Get him into the right AFL club environment, and that will sort itself out.

Bennell can play football like very few in this country.

There’s a fit somewhere - the troubled soon-to-be-23-year-old with a team in the premiership window.

There is a deal there. The smart club will make it. And we predict that club will look back on that deal and think it got it cheap.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-17/whos-brave-enough-to-play-bennell-powerball

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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #132 on: September 17, 2015, 02:06:33 PM »
look into tigers deeply no second guessing he will be 23 years old if we can turn him around would be the buy of the season I even think he would be better then treloar sum may doubt that but bennell kicks goals and creates that run we so badly need, 400k instead of treloar 800 which would free us up for another highly regarded player  who that one is we will not no all hype.... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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I agree. The downside is we waste $400K on a player who is constantly getting into trouble and unable to get on the field and is a total nutcase. He may even influence some of the young players and disrupt the team.  It really is a "rolling the dice" scenario. It's either a huge win or a huge loss.

pretty sure  whereevr he ends up there will be behavioural clauses in his contract, and probably regular drug testing.

The club believes they are close to contending. If so the club as a whole should be mature enough and have enough leaders to, at the very least stop someone like bennell from leading others astray, but hopefully get him into line.

the kid is immensly talented and the rewards are high. he will come cheap and the contract will be easily torn up if he stuffs up, so the risk is relatively low.

coming from a low base the club hasnt really been in a position to take too many recruiting risks over the last 5 years, but it is now time to roll the dice
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Bennell, Choco Williams - a match made in heaven at RFC: Gerard Healy (Fox)
« Reply #133 on: September 17, 2015, 04:24:52 PM »
Harley Bennell, Mark Williams would be a match made in heaven at Richmond, says Gerard Healy

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BROWNLOW Medallist Gerard Healy believes Mark Williams and Harley Bennell would be “a match made in heaven”, claiming the Richmond development coach would be the ideal mentor for the troubled ex-Sun should he be traded to the Tigers.

The Tigers have been one of a handful of clubs to show interest in the forward-midfielder, who was discarded by Gold Coast after a string of off-field indiscretions during his five-year stint.

Bennell was put up for trade last week, despite still having two years to run on his contract at the Suns.

If Bennell was traded to the Tigers, Williams would likely play a similar mentoring role to the one when he counselled Dustin Martin three years ago.

Williams took Martin under his wing following a disappointing 2012 season in which he was suspended by the Tigers for two matches for missing a compulsory training session. The Williams family hosted Martin for weekly dinners, with the development coach working intensely with the star midfielder about how to structure his life off the field.

Healy said that style of nurturing from Williams would be of great benefit for Bennell.

“He would be one that ‘Choco’ Williams, who I think should be talking to Essendon, but if he’s not and staying at the Tigers, ‘Choco’ Williams is the man for Harley Bennell,” Healy told 3AW.

“The more I think about it, the more I think it’s a match made in heaven.”

Tigers Rising Star nominee Ben Lennon recently told Fox Footy how Williams had played an instrumental role in his development during the early stages of his AFL career.

“Any development kid down there he’ll look after,” Lennon said.

“We get along really well, me and Mark. He’s taught me a lot and I’ve got a lot to thank him for. He’s always there on a Monday morning to go through vision.

“He’s pretty cheeky, Choco. He’ll always say what he thinks. He’s got some pretty good banter, so the boys get along with him pretty well down at the club.”

Tigers champion Matthew Richardson said picking up Bennell would “undoubtedly be a risk”, but was confident the former Gold Coast speedster would click under Williams’ guidance at the Tigers.

“We know that Choco has done a great job with Dustin Martin. Dusty, as a young guy, probably did enjoy getting out socially a little bit,” he said.

“Dusty’s been a consistent player now the last two years, so I’m sure Choco would thrive working with him.’’

If Bennell did land at the Tigers and was in a healthy state of mind, Richardson said he could make an immediate impact at Punt Road.

“I would definitely look at him playing off half-forward, going into the midfield. You know he’s got pace, you know he can kick goals. You’d have to look at him,” Richardson said.

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Re: Tigers to weigh up Harley Bennell [update]
« Reply #134 on: September 17, 2015, 04:26:39 PM »
Chris Johnson, previous Lions champ saying he would be the perfect fit and missing piece for the RFC....that's good enough for me.. :thumbsup
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"