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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #135 on: October 12, 2015, 01:34:10 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

To me an early 2nd rounder eg Brisbane's is too good a deal to pass up....

And BTW I'd be surprised if Dea is there next year

U might think different if rance does a knee in r 2



Nope can't base trade decisions on "what if" scenarios

Besides unlike the lions who do rate Astbury, I don't rate

What?

Of course u can

Why do u think teams have 5/6 ruck man not two on the list

Why do we have Thomas

You cannot prevent bad luck to key players - you can have basic cover for all positions
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #136 on: October 12, 2015, 02:30:41 PM »
What?

Of course u can

Why do u think teams have 5/6 ruck man not two on the list

Why do we have Thomas

You cannot prevent bad luck to key players - you can have basic cover for all positions

I actually have no idea why we have Thomas,  :snidegrin

But I agree clubs need "basic" cover for positions and we have the basic cover, we may not like who that cover is but we have it

So I'lll repeat it....

No I would not say NO to or stop a deal eg Astbury for pick 21 because Player A may do their knee in round 3. You don't pass on good deals that will improve your list because you're afraid of something that might happen

Beside IIRC all the so called experts said the Eagles season was over before it began when they KPP back whent down pre-season and early but last time I checked they made the GF

 
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #137 on: October 12, 2015, 02:31:30 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

To me an early 2nd rounder eg Brisbane's is too good a deal to pass up....

And BTW I'd be surprised if Dea is there next year

U might think different if rance does a knee in r 2

Nope can't base trade decisions on "what if" scenarios

Besides unlike the lions who do rate Astbury, I don't rate
You may not, but i think most people do base trade decisions on what ifs.  It is a part of looking at both depth and quality and is a big part of list management imo.  If you lack numbers or quality or both in an area you must address the need. Injuries will impact a teams chances and a club must ask if it has adequate cover  for certain players.

Even if we keep all of our talls we are lacking in the area both quality and the numbers.
Clearly the clubs thinking is the same as yours and what happens is we never truly address list needs.
It is a disgrace that those in charge cannot see the list deficiencies that are hitting them in the face.  One reason They continually fail in this is because too often they over rate the players we have.. It is an even bigger disgrace to place so much reliance on one player which is what is happeneing in most areas. If they are chasing top 4 as they say, it would be criminal if they can't ask themselve's what if we lose Rance? How big a gap is it  to the replacement player?. Besides imo you need two top notch tall defenders not one which makes not going after any of the talls up for trade even more disgraceful.  They are truly blind to the lists problems.

Imo they continue to get so much wrong  in recruiting and list management and making finals has made it worse.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #138 on: October 12, 2015, 04:45:15 PM »
Give him to them for Big Lue. Astbury is worthless

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #139 on: October 12, 2015, 04:55:00 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

To me an early 2nd rounder eg Brisbane's is too good a deal to pass up....

And BTW I'd be surprised if Dea is there next year

U might think different if rance does a knee in r 2

Nope can't base trade decisions on "what if" scenarios

Besides unlike the lions who do rate Astbury, I don't rate
You may not, but i think most people do base trade decisions on what ifs.  It is a part of looking at both depth and quality and is a big part of list management imo.  If you lack numbers or quality or both in an area you must address the need. Injuries will impact a teams chances and a club must ask if it has adequate cover  for certain players.

Even if we keep all of our talls we are lacking in the area both quality and the numbers.
Clearly the clubs thinking is the same as yours and what happens is we never truly address list needs.
It is a disgrace that those in charge cannot see the list deficiencies that are hitting them in the face.  One reason They continually fail in this is because too often they over rate the players we have.. It is an even bigger disgrace to place so much reliance on one player which is what is happeneing in most areas. If they are chasing top 4 as they say, it would be criminal if they can't ask themselve's what if we lose Rance? How big a gap is it  to the replacement player?. Besides imo you need two top notch tall defenders not one which makes not going after any of the talls up for trade even more disgraceful.  They are truly blind to the lists problems.

Imo they continue to get so much wrong  in recruiting and list management and making finals has made it worse.

It's disgraceful

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #140 on: October 12, 2015, 05:13:46 PM »
Redden to eagles for pick 17.
Maybe astbury to liona for pick 17
Pick 17 to blues for yarran.
Not sure if that is what will happen. Win for us. But.id be using puck 17 for better reasons.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #141 on: October 12, 2015, 05:16:44 PM »
wot?
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #142 on: October 12, 2015, 05:28:13 PM »
A 2nd round pick for Astbury you would take.


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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #143 on: October 12, 2015, 09:02:37 PM »
Not happening....

 
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   Richmond has reiterated their decision not to trade key backman David Astbury despite some interest from clubs. A deal will be done this week to move young GWS midfielder Jacob Townsend to Punt Road.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...e-carlisle-20151012-gk7aji.html#ixzz3oLVsRI1q


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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #144 on: October 13, 2015, 02:42:32 PM »
Q. What's fair trade value for Astbury?

Max Laughton (@dshban) - Low second, high third round pick maybe?


Q. With the Lions looking at Astbury and Leppa being a huge fan of him, Any chance the Tigers possibly do a trade of Pick 12 and Astbury for the Lions compo pick and their second rounder?

So Pick 12 and Astbury for 17 and 22? And then ontrade one of those picks for Yarran?

Max Laughton (@dshban) - Not outrageous I think.

http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-essendon-st-kilda-carlton-collingwood-headline-major-trade-action/story-fnj3twbb-1227566957748



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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #145 on: October 13, 2015, 02:44:00 PM »
You have got to be stuffing kidding me.
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #146 on: October 13, 2015, 02:46:39 PM »
Q. What's fair trade value for Astbury?

Max Laughton (@dshban) - Low second, high third round pick maybe?


Q. With the Lions looking at Astbury and Leppa being a huge fan of him, Any chance the Tigers possibly do a trade of Pick 12 and Astbury for the Lions compo pick and their second rounder?

So Pick 12 and Astbury for 17 and 22? And then ontrade one of those picks for Yarran?

Max Laughton (@dshban) - Not outrageous I think.

http://www.themercury.com.au/afl-trades-essendon-st-kilda-carlton-collingwood-headline-major-trade-action/story-fnj3twbb-1227566957748

I agree its not outrageous it is stuffing outrageous, dont mind getting a pick for Arseberry but not down trading our 12 and even using a 20 something pick for Yarren.........meh

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #147 on: October 13, 2015, 05:57:11 PM »
Not happening....

 
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   Richmond has reiterated their decision not to trade key backman David Astbury despite some interest from clubs. A deal will be done this week to move young GWS midfielder Jacob Townsend to Punt Road.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...e-carlisle-20151012-gk7aji.html#ixzz3oLVsRI1q


And the club wonders why we are doing this  :banghead
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #148 on: October 13, 2015, 06:03:47 PM »
And why were doing this  :banghead  :banghead

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #149 on: October 13, 2015, 06:07:17 PM »
And this :banghead :banghead :banghead