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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #120 on: October 07, 2015, 09:14:44 PM »
you blokes dont think it has anything has to do with the way our vfl side is run and coached?

how many times have we heard Mcbean isnt ready by WP and alike but we still persist with the big girl in griffiths. Half the problem was that pathetic coach we had, so now that he is gone  now they should aim and get ratts or choco down there to take over.

I would hate to think what would happen if chaplin goes down. He is not that great but who do we have as a back up, elton? Please.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #121 on: October 07, 2015, 09:18:05 PM »
Astbury poo
Chappy poo

Astbury may be less poo one day.
Chappy will alway be poo given his an old smelly man

It ain't rocket science

you blokes dont think it has anything has to do with the way our vfl side is run and coached?

how many times have we heard Mcbean isnt ready by WP and alike but we still persist with the big girl in griffiths. Half the problem was that pathetic coach we had, so now that he is gone  now they should aim and get ratts or choco down there to take over.

I would hate to think what would happen if chaplin goes down. He is not that great but who do we have as a back up, elton? Please.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #122 on: October 07, 2015, 10:20:24 PM »

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2015, 02:39:53 AM »
Brisbane are likely to get a second round compensation pick for losing free agent Leuenberger. That'll give them picks 21 & 22. Presumably, one of these would be offered for Astbury if he is traded.
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #124 on: October 12, 2015, 06:15:29 AM »
Take it and RUN seriously. Trade for Yarran, keep pick 12...

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #125 on: October 12, 2015, 10:33:37 AM »
Brisbane are likely to get a second round compensation pick for losing free agent Leuenberger. That'll give them picks 21 & 22. Presumably, one of these would be offered for Astbury is he is traded.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #126 on: October 12, 2015, 10:55:42 AM »
Effectively Yarran for Astbury. I guess you have to take it, but I still see Astbury coming good before long.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #127 on: October 12, 2015, 11:21:37 AM »
I must be the only one who thinks trading Astbury for pick 21 in this weak draft or just to get that pick to pass it on for Yarran is way too cheap. I'm also not a fan of trading a tall for a small if he is part of the Yarran trade. Relying on an unproven Elton as a back-up key defender is a major concern too.

Astbury's problem has been he's twice suffered season-ending injuries. Prior to each of those two injuries, he was in good form in our backline. When were struggling in the first half of 2014, he would've been one of the few Tigers playing well.

Agree.

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I dont understand why people want to trade these big guys that take years to really come good. People complain about Chaplin but we really only have Astbury and Elton as our back up tall backs, we need one of these guys to stand up and take his place, not get rid of them.
You also need to be able to judge weather players will be good enough and will stand up  inside a reasonable time frame. Astbury is yet to get anywhere near Chaplins standard except on the odd occasion and most people want to see the back of Chaplin.
Surely 6 years is long enough to make a sound call either way the club obviously thinks Astbury will stand up, they have far too often got this wrong though for any sane person to have confidence in their decision making.

Personally i think pick 21 is more than fair for Astbury based on his six year history and what he has done to date. Obviously we would then use pick 21 to facilitate the Yarran trade. It seems to me it would be a reasonable outcome for all clubs involved.

The only trouble is we obviously have not looked at tall players in this off season which is  damning and shows list management is still not working well, It may mean if we traded Astbury it would only leave Elton in the wings and i dont think we can go into a season with only three kpds on the list.
 Imo they have backed themselves into a corner where they have made it very hard to do a trade involving any of our talls.Ah richmond and list management eh.

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #128 on: October 12, 2015, 11:25:15 AM »
I must be the only one who thinks trading Astbury for pick 21 in this weak draft or just to get that pick to pass it on for Yarran is way too cheap. I'm also not a fan of trading a tall for a small if he is part of the Yarran trade. Relying on an unproven Elton as a back-up key defender is a major concern too.

Astbury's problem has been he's twice suffered season-ending injuries. Prior to each of those two injuries, he was in good form in our backline. When were struggling in the first half of 2014, he would've been one of the few Tigers playing well.

Agree.

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I dont understand why people want to trade these big guys that take years to really come good. People complain about Chaplin but we really only have Astbury and Elton as our back up tall backs, we need one of these guys to stand up and take his place, not get rid of them.
You also need to be able to judge weather players will be good enough and will stand up  inside a reasonable time frame. Astbury is yet to get anywhere near Chaplins standard except on the odd occasion and most people want to see the back of Chaplin.
Surely 6 years is long enough to make a sound call either way the club obviously thinks Astbury will stand up, they have far too often got this wrong though for any sane person to have confidence in their decision making.

Personally i think pick 21 is more than fair for Astbury based on his six year history and what he has done to date. Obviously we would then use pick 21 to facilitate the Yarran trade. It seems to me it would be a reasonable outcome for all clubs involved.

The only trouble is we obviously have not looked at tall players in this off season which is  damning and shows list management is still not working well, It may mean if we traded Astbury it would only leave Elton in the wings and i dont think we can go into a season with only three kpds on the list.
 Imo they have backed themselves into a corner where they have made it very hard to do a trade involving any of our talls.Ah richmond and list management eh.

mcbean is yet to get anywhere near vickerys standard either
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #129 on: October 12, 2015, 12:39:51 PM »
I must be the only one who thinks trading Astbury for pick 21 in this weak draft or just to get that pick to pass it on for Yarran is way too cheap. I'm also not a fan of trading a tall for a small if he is part of the Yarran trade. Relying on an unproven Elton as a back-up key defender is a major concern too.

Astbury's problem has been he's twice suffered season-ending injuries. Prior to each of those two injuries, he was in good form in our backline. When were struggling in the first half of 2014, he would've been one of the few Tigers playing well.

Agree.

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I dont understand why people want to trade these big guys that take years to really come good. People complain about Chaplin but we really only have Astbury and Elton as our back up tall backs, we need one of these guys to stand up and take his place, not get rid of them.
You also need to be able to judge weather players will be good enough and will stand up  inside a reasonable time frame. Astbury is yet to get anywhere near Chaplins standard except on the odd occasion and most people want to see the back of Chaplin.
Surely 6 years is long enough to make a sound call either way the club obviously thinks Astbury will stand up, they have far too often got this wrong though for any sane person to have confidence in their decision making.

Personally i think pick 21 is more than fair for Astbury based on his six year history and what he has done to date. Obviously we would then use pick 21 to facilitate the Yarran trade. It seems to me it would be a reasonable outcome for all clubs involved.

The only trouble is we obviously have not looked at tall players in this off season which is  damning and shows list management is still not working well, It may mean if we traded Astbury it would only leave Elton in the wings and i dont think we can go into a season with only three kpds on the list.
 Imo they have backed themselves into a corner where they have made it very hard to do a trade involving any of our talls.Ah richmond and list management eh.

mcbean is yet to get anywhere near vickerys standard either
McBean, an absolute disgace he has not been given a go, we need to find out about him and playing him in the 2s week after week is just pitiful, to say he is no wbere near  vaporubs standard is a huge bow to draw

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #130 on: October 12, 2015, 12:43:02 PM »
I must be the only one who thinks trading Astbury for pick 21 in this weak draft or just to get that pick to pass it on for Yarran is way too cheap. I'm also not a fan of trading a tall for a small if he is part of the Yarran trade. Relying on an unproven Elton as a back-up key defender is a major concern too.

Astbury's problem has been he's twice suffered season-ending injuries. Prior to each of those two injuries, he was in good form in our backline. When were struggling in the first half of 2014, he would've been one of the few Tigers playing well.

Agree.

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I dont understand why people want to trade these big guys that take years to really come good. People complain about Chaplin but we really only have Astbury and Elton as our back up tall backs, we need one of these guys to stand up and take his place, not get rid of them.
You also need to be able to judge weather players will be good enough and will stand up  inside a reasonable time frame. Astbury is yet to get anywhere near Chaplins standard except on the odd occasion and most people want to see the back of Chaplin.
Surely 6 years is long enough to make a sound call either way the club obviously thinks Astbury will stand up, they have far too often got this wrong though for any sane person to have confidence in their decision making.

Personally i think pick 21 is more than fair for Astbury based on his six year history and what he has done to date. Obviously we would then use pick 21 to facilitate the Yarran trade. It seems to me it would be a reasonable outcome for all clubs involved.

The only trouble is we obviously have not looked at tall players in this off season which is  damning and shows list management is still not working well, It may mean if we traded Astbury it would only leave Elton in the wings and i dont think we can go into a season with only three kpds on the list.
 Imo they have backed themselves into a corner where they have made it very hard to do a trade involving any of our talls.Ah richmond and list management eh.

mcbean is yet to get anywhere near vickerys standard either
McBean, an absolute disgace he has not been given a go, we need to find out about him and playing him in the 2s week after week is just pitiful, to say he is no wbere near  vaporubs standard is a huge bow to draw

Yeah that what I was getting at

How can McBean Arnot astbury show something if never ,  given a decent run in the senior side in a similar position ?

Even when playing well in the twos

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #131 on: October 12, 2015, 12:44:52 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #132 on: October 12, 2015, 01:15:36 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

To me an early 2nd rounder eg Brisbane's is too good a deal to pass up....

And BTW I'd be surprised if Dea is there next year
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #133 on: October 12, 2015, 01:21:27 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

To me an early 2nd rounder eg Brisbane's is too good a deal to pass up....

And BTW I'd be surprised if Dea is there next year

U might think different if rance does a knee in r 2
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Re: Brisbane Lions pursuing Richmond's David Astbury (Age)
« Reply #134 on: October 12, 2015, 01:31:06 PM »
lose Astbury we need to replace him with a tall backmen, lose Rance/Chappy long term we are relying on Batch/Dea (prob playing both which is a disaster)as well as Elton (jury still out). for this reason i say we keep him but if the deal is too good to refuse take it

To me an early 2nd rounder eg Brisbane's is too good a deal to pass up....

And BTW I'd be surprised if Dea is there next year

U might think different if rance does a knee in r 2

Nope can't base trade decisions on "what if" scenarios

Besides unlike the lions who do rate Astbury, I don't rate
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