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Offline Francois Jackson

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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2015, 06:19:34 PM »
i think they have 1 more left as the veterans are not slowing down.

Not sure about you guys but another flag to them hurts more knowing we can beat them if only we can get the monkey off the back.

This sucks. 12 flags going to 4 teams out of the last 15 years.

seriously FO.
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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2015, 06:22:02 PM »
Ok..lets see how this pans out over the next few years...They have built an awesome off field set up that i think will hold them well

once they ditch waverley for dingley its all over. 2 footy fields, one size of mcg and etihad. FMD.

Can someone just stop them FFS



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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2015, 06:22:32 PM »
The AFL have tried to even up the competition as best they can.If the rest of us clubs are too incompetent to make the most of that ,then more fool us

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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2015, 06:28:53 PM »
The AFL have tried to even up the competition as best they can.If the rest of us clubs are too incompetent to make the most of that ,then more fool us
Free agency has screwed the equalization.  Players want to win premierships. Look at Frawley and Lake. Hawks had huge holes in their defense and so they just went and got their men.
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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2015, 06:52:43 PM »
Watching the teams run out today shows the enormity of the occasion. There's no way we were mentally ready for this day, I reckon our leaders would've peeed there pants and we would've seen a replay of 2007. Would've been embarrassing.

Hopefully Cotchin & Deledio can grow some balls, get rid of Chaplin, get a ruck to help Maric, put in Rance and Riewoldt into the leadership group, add some quality players that can replace the squibs and then we might have a premiership team.   :thumbsup


It's time a team replaced the pee&poo just as they succeeded the all conquering cats.

I want to Richmond win some premierships. 

West Coast played exactly how I envision us playing if we ever got there....schoolboy errors & panic stations from the first bounce...

Dooks you cant have 75000 bandwagon jumpers..I keep saying it they are the most succesful club of the past 50 years by the length of flemington straight

Barely 35,000 as soon as they go back down again...

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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2015, 08:00:10 PM »
The AFL have tried to even up the competition as best they can.If the rest of us clubs are too incompetent to make the most of that ,then more fool us
Free agency has screwed the equalization.  Players want to win premierships. Look at Frawley and Lake. Hawks had huge holes in their defense and so they just went and got their men.

Meanwhile Buddy is locked up in a straight jacket somewhere still screaming "What the stuff did I do"....

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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2015, 08:29:43 PM »
Left 15 to go, couldn't stand it..still feel sick....unfortunate thing it just makes me start to hate my team for their pathetic efforts...
To clarify 3 years in a row... I'll forgive port but just no just stuffing no the others...so sick of being the biggest poo team of the afl.
Fire away, just remember been to over 500 games and 35 year member if ewes have any idea what that actually means.
Had a gut full got no choice...suit up in 5 months time go around again.
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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2015, 08:53:32 PM »
i think they have 1 more left as the veterans are not slowing down.

Not sure about you guys but another flag to them hurts more knowing we can beat them if only we can get the monkey off the back.

This sucks. 12 flags going to 4 teams out of the last 15 years.

seriously FO.

This something that seriously needs to be looked at.

with more teams in the comp and all these so called equalisation measures, we have seen single teams dominate the comp over a period time at a rate never seen in the history of the vfl/afl
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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2015, 10:02:59 PM »
They are everything we are not.
Successful
Combative
Team Oriented
Hard Working
Unbreakable
Driven
Resilient
Focused
Determined.

Here are the philosophies of the our clubs.

They are looking at 4 in a row. They are not discounting it. Sam Mitchell said the best premiership is the next one we play in snd you kind of half believe him too. If they think Lake or Hale or anyone else have passed their use by date goneskis, if anyone wants to leave they can close the door on the way out. Case in point Clinton Young where is he now all for 25-50K post 2012 GF.

Us our main aim is to win a final. We got to the finals in 2013 made Jeep ads like we climbed Everist and subsequently coughed up a 5 goal plus lead and failed, then at 3-10 in 2014 we internally claimed we were better than 2013 only to win 9 in a row and zsurrender meekly against Port and this year we made it with room to spare knocking off some big scalps along the way giving us the impression we had genuinely turned the corner. Wrong twice 21 points up and we blew it again. Yet the same blokes who have failed us in the past will be re-signed and the same players will fail time and time again when we need to make a move and move forward culturally on and off the field.

I don't know what our mantra will be next year but this club needs to aim higher and get rid of the fear of success/ failure complex it has and not knowing how to deal with it. I think it has to do as much with personnel at the club playing, match day and not playing as it has to with culture.

Until we solve this riddle we will wallow in mid table mediocrity with the token odd finals win here and there to appease the more easily satisfied supporters.

They on the other hand make every post a winner. On and off field. Members, sponsors, everything.

We could be anything if we got our on field act together and built a side with the aforementioned traits at the top of this post.

Today was Mums birthday well it was yesterday but for obvious reasons we celebrated today and we got together today for lunch. Coming from a Hawthorn family I felt reviled watching my cousins and Pop some of whom jumped on the bandwagon recently and some of whom who were absent from 92 through to 07 calling footy "Boganball" revell in their success and what it meant to them, even going to a few big games over the journey and even scoring tix to the big dance like it was a birthright they deserved,  whilst I go week in and week out, interstate toad trips , support the club and go through thick and thin and by jolly the thin is threadbare and I feel a little jealous and aggrieved.

In 1982 our last GF we lead the Hawks by 10 flags to 4, yet in the susequent 33 years we have played in five finals series for a total nine finals consisting of two wins and seven losses whilst they now lead the Premierships by 13-10.

Us 9 finals.
Them 9 flags.

One flag every 3.67 years they have lost 4 GF's in that time too.
Us one final every 3.67 years.

We have a bloke who came from that system yet he cannot adopt that philosophy here and use those traits to help the club move to the next level. Same selections, same rhetoric, same mantra, same results. We have the perfect example to follow but we just cannot bite the bullet and make those right choices on and off the field and until we do ultimate success will always be a pipedream and GF day will always be looked at with a tinge of green from us who follow the yellow and black especially given the heartache we carry and all the time, effort and money we put into this club.

I just hope this changes and our loss three weeks ago was the catalyst. No point swearing at them it is clear they are better than us. Aspire not to be as successful as them but better and then and maybe only then we may draw up a blueprint for ultimate success and then be in a position to launch towards it because right now we are nowhere near them or even anything resembling that.

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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2015, 10:20:21 PM »
Frawley showed exactly why teams were interested in giving him the big bucks to come to their team

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Re: Grand Final 2015
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2015, 10:48:29 PM »
Well said Dom worst non supporters in the league for me. I had a few who made their annual suck call for a ticket which I didn't oblige even though I could have

No time for part time supporters who call once a year.

Facts are there is no competition for spots at punt road. We can't develop our second tier players, and we would prefer to persist with the same old players that have embarrassed us 3 yrs running now

Hawks lose hodge and Lewis in Anderson and Langford and still win. Depth is their biggest key and the ability to use players in multiple positions





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