Richmond won't be landing a big name star: Dan Richardson (Herald-Sun)

[big tone]

and despite what most think of conca, I'd want more than pick 16 or 17. i would take the risk on Freos 1st pick from next year though.

Agree.

Wowee!
You both think Conca is worth better than pick 16?.... In the National draft?

Wowee yep, others sides rate him. Reckon could do a 1st rounder and afuture pick

Just like I reckon we can a 2nd rounder of astbury

A first rounder and a future pick! Double wowee!!
I think this is a classic example of over rating our players.
Unless you have a link to where you got this great news.
It may not be that bad a trade period after all.
 
Maybe we could swap Griff for Fyfe and a future pick too?
Get it done!

[the claw]

wowee, I do

Good for you. We are all entitled to our opinions. Cant see it though he is worth maybe a decent 2nd round pick at best.
Cmon your in carge of another clubs list based on what you have seen and his actual performances what would you offer up. A first rounder wow.  id love to do business with ya.

AH opinions like arseholes we all have em.
The only thing we need take note of is  our opinions are no more worthy than the next mans or womans of course.

[tiga]

Well that's your opinion....

[torch]

Go for talent.

Keep 1st round pick.

Keep Lennon.

 

Corey Ellis will be an A-grade midfielder.

[Stalin]

another corey ellis would indeed be nice

however that still leaves holes in the ruck, tall backs, other areas, and a club that openly doesnt acknowledge them

interesting times

[Stalin]

As always at trade time I'm actually more interested in who we ship out rather than who we bring in.

I'm still hoping we ship someone with value to get a better draft position, doubt we will as we never do. That where we really fail IMHO. We show no guts in trading our players out to try and get better

Do you know of there are any ollie wine / Daniel rich types that will make an immediate impact

One Woud assume not, as it is apparent a weak draft pool

We're you preferring the best available talent if we indeed we upgrade our draft pick for once, or a specific position? Ie small forward

What is the grander reason for wanting what you say?

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[the claw]

As always at trade time I'm actually more interested in who we ship out rather than who we bring in.

I'm still hoping we ship someone with value to get a better draft position, doubt we will as we never do. That where we really fail IMHO. We show no guts in trading our players out to try and get better

Why is that do you think. Maybe just maybe they have no confidence in the nd outside of the first round.
I agree with you the likes of B Ellis, Griffiths/vickery, Conca, Astbury  should be on the table. But we all know it wont happen under this current regime for all the wrong reasons.

[the claw]

There are no first rounders left from other clubs, most have gone on the big fish of the comp ...for this year and next.

LOL that is golden.

[Stalin]

Funny cause it's trueeee

[Francois Jackson]

As always at trade time I'm actually more interested in who we ship out rather than who we bring in.

I'm still hoping we ship someone with value to get a better draft position, doubt we will as we never do. That where we really fail IMHO. We show no guts in trading our players out to try and get better

Why is that do you think. Maybe just maybe they have no confidence in Francis Jackson outside of the first round.
I agree with you the likes of B Ellis, Griffiths/vickery, Conca, Astbury  should be on the table. But we all know it wont happen under this current regime for all the wrong reasons.

[WilliamPowell]

Who and how we trade had nothing to with Jackson.

Think you are drawing a long bow to suggest it has anything to do with lacking confidence in who we select after round 1 in the draft.

Remembering that it is a fearless list manager who does the assessing of our list and who tells our recruiters which type of players we need so therefore who to follow/target. Now I know that doesn't suit the bagging of our recruiters but that's how it works. How do I know this? Because at a function where Blair was the speaker he told us that's how it works

So ultimately Trades are the domain of Blair & Dan and history tells us that they haven't for what ever reason had the guts in the last 2 years to trade anyone off our list with value.

[mightytiges]

Who and how we trade had nothing to with Jackson.

Think you are drawing a long bow to suggest it has anything to do with lacking confidence in who we select after round 1 in the draft.

Remembering that it is a fearless list manager who does the assessing of our list and who tells our recruiters which type of players we need so therefore who to follow/target. Now I know that doesn't suit the bagging of our recruiters but that's how it works. How do I know this? Because at a function where Blair was the speaker he told us that's how it works

So ultimately Trades are the domain of Blair & Dan and history tells us that they haven't for what ever reason had the guts in the last 2 years to trade anyone off our list with value.

And who interestingly has been unsighted this trade period. I don't recall Blair doing one media interview with Dan taking over all duties.

[WilliamPowell]

And who interestingly has been unsighted this trade period. I don't recall Blair doing one media interview with Dan taking over all duties.

Yes, noticed that myself...

Interesting indeed 

[Francois Jackson]

Who and how we trade had nothing to with Jackson.

Think you are drawing a long bow to suggest it has anything to do with lacking confidence in who we select after round 1 in the draft.

Remembering that it is a fearless list manager who does the assessing of our list and who tells our recruiters which type of players we need so therefore who to follow/target. Now I know that doesn't suit the bagging of our recruiters but that's how it works. How do I know this? Because at a function where Blair was the speaker he told us that's how it works

So ultimately Trades are the domain of Blair & Dan and history tells us that they haven't for what ever reason had the guts in the last 2 years to trade anyone off our list with value.

Just because dan the man told you so you take that as gospel? Didnt one of them say the other day our ruck stocks are sorted and we will head to the draft, while benny hill said the opposite. I dont believe anything these clowns say.

That being said you maybe right but hackson selects the actual player. Perhaps its a mid, perhaps its a forward but bottom line is the player has more than likely been of his choosing for the better part of 8-10 years and how is that working for us?

You seem to put a whole lot of blame on our recruitment on blair and not jackson which i fine odd. I actually think both of them are as bad as each other in their respective roles. Year after year we are still going around in circles because the club havent got the balls to trade out.

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

I dont see the need or point of trading people with value purely for the sake of trading.

Take B Ellis for example. Has value, cannot believe some people here want to trade him for a pick. Hes achieved more than most of our other young guns at the same age and stage. Would not even consider getting rid of him.

Conca, yes. Astbury, yes. Picks (in the current) yes.