Three more changes to our list (Thomas retired, Dea and Gordon delisted)

[eliminator]

Flash Gordon had the odd bit of brilliance but I agree he needed to go. He was a strong runner but that was about it. I know Thomas' hardness was good for the team but his disposal was often quite poor so retirement probably isn't bad for him either.

Agree. Gordon showed potential but was not consistent enough and therefore it was the right decision to delist him. This was always going to be the make or break season for Dea and unfortunately for him he couldn't break into the seniors despite his best efforts in the VFL. They should have given him more of a run in the early years and should have the made the decision far earlier if he wasn't upto it. Thomas retired at the right time. His courage and hardness was fantastic but his disposal and lack of pace were real weaknesses.

[Francois Jackson]

thomas vrs grigg and conca  in a final

Thomas wins

[scjhammo]

i think all were done correctly lets look at it Thomas way to slow for AFL know a days and I think he knew that Gordon its either him or llyold playing that small forwards role but know that lennon stepped up and we are all hoping he can make the next step no spot for him, dea may have won the B&F in the 2s but really hasn't done much in his time if they don't do much in 2-3 years why keep them get a new kid in..
GO U TIGERS

[Stalin]

i think all were done correctly lets look at it Thomas way to slow for AFL know a days and I think he knew that Gordon its either him or llyold playing that small forwards role but know that lennon stepped up and we are all hoping he can make the next step no spot for him, dea may have won the B&F in the 2s but really hasn't done much in his time if they don't do much in 2-3 years why keep them get a new kid in..
GO U TIGERS

while i dont disagree

one could argue grigg (for example) is far too soft for afl

in a lose-and-season-over final, id personally rather the slower non soft guy in the yellow and black

[Penelope]

you have to admit though, that it is a pretty good effort for a bloke who is soft as butter to average the third most clearances and most tackles for the season?

[Francois Jackson]

last year of the contract always brings out the best in the griggster. Next year we should be back to normal.

[Stalin]

you have to admit though, that it is a pretty good effort for a bloke who is soft as butter to average the third most clearances and most tackles for the season?

 hard for say vlastuin to get more, if hes always in a back pocket... compared to mr grigg thats often lined up in the center bounce? tactical mastermind our Damien   

richmond was one of the worst clearance sides in the afl. 

richmond 13th 837
melbourne 14th 827
drugcheats 16th 794
st kilda 772

^ total

richmond 15th worst on average

griggy big fish in a small pond 

if grigg is not soft, he is not overly tough for afl standards

[Stalin]

second worse tackling side in league too

average 57.5 p/game

only team to average less than 60 along with melbourne


but yeah,  "the third most clearances and most tackles for the season" at tigerland

dont forget top ten in best and fairest 

[Penelope]

so what does that say for others below mr soft as butter?

[Yeahright]

So Grigg was let down by everyone else being too soft. Thanks for the clarification

BTW people only wish Thomas played because we were pee poor. Sure if he were to play one of his good games he may of dragged us up a little but he isn't the type of guy to turn games for you. He's just a middle of the pack (at best) soldier. You know what you are going to get from him which was fine as depth but time to move on. If our team was on and he was playing he would of dragged us down, but since we lost we might as well just dig the boots in more

[Stalin]

so what does that say for others below mr soft as butter?

they are not chosen to play in the middle ?

[Penelope]

oh, only midfielders can tackle?, but what about the other midfielders with less than him?

How many midfielders are there?

surely you are not suggesting that the only other midfielders were the two above him, Miles and Cotchin?

[Stalin]

the top 50 tacklers, at a quick glance on last years stats seems to be all mids. a coincidence perhaps?

would you not think you have more chance of winning a clearance or tackling if you are were the ball starts?

in regards to being the third best tackler in the 2nd worst team in the afl;

deledio is played forward
houli is played back
martin is lazy
 b ellis is soft
lambert first year player, also played forward
mcintosh is a kid
edwards, i dunno what his excuse is
hunt is fairly rubbish
newman is rubbish


big fish, small pond

[(•))(©™]

I'm gonna make a call.

Mcintosh will be top three next year.

If not, FHO. 

[Penelope]

the top 50 tackles at a quick glance on last years stats seems to be all mids. a coincidence perhaps?

would you not think you have more chance of winning a clearance or tackling if you are were the ball starts?

in regards to being the third best tackler in the 2nd worst team in the afl;

deledio is played forward
houli is played back
martin is lazy b ellis is soft
lambert first year player, also played forward
mcintosh is a kid
edwards, i dunno what his excuse is
hunt is fairly rubbish
newman is rubbish


big fish, small pond

at least get the facts right for your convoluted arguments.


He led the tackles (on averages per game), not 3rd - but let's  humour you by rephrasing the questions - so what does that say about the other midfielders who had less tackles?

He was 3rd on the list of clearances per game. so what does that say about the midfielders below him on the list