Author Topic: Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]  (Read 32261 times)

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #150 on: November 29, 2015, 08:05:12 PM »
WP I haven't got anything from the club regarding voting as yet.
What is the procedure?

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Now that's a man I'd vote for if given a vote.


If you're member you get a vote...know that you are so...

I Received an email from the club about 10 days ago with a link to the voting page it was an email about the AGM, half way down the AGM email there is something about the election

People who they don't have email addresses for was supposed to get something in the mail is my understanding

Suggest if you have got anything you contact the club first thing tomorrow
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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2015, 08:31:29 PM »
If you're member you get a vote...know that you are so...

I Received an email from the club about 10 days ago with a link to the voting page it was an email about the AGM, half way down the AGM email there is something about the election

People who they don't have email addresses for was supposed to get something in the mail is my understanding


Did a search on the club website which gave the notice. At the bottom of the notice was a link to the voting site.
https://www.investorvote.com.au/Login?cn=8378&demo=N

Was able to enrol to vote using member ID etc

All good.

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2015, 09:28:18 PM »

Willy I have a question that I hope yiu can shed some light on.

What is the board gunna do?

3 0 75 has ended, what is the new plan the new objectives

Do yiu know what they are because I haven't ever met anyone that does know?

Edit: Fixed quoting

Firstly the 3 0 75 was developed by Benny Gale as CEO, it was the strategic plan, vision statement for the club. It got put to the board who signed off on it and who worked with management to ensure all the pillars, directions were in place to enable the club to strive to achieve the objectives of the plan.

That's their role.

Let's be clear here a boards role is not hands on in the day to day running of the business. People seem to think that somehow it is.

But to your question What are the clubs objectives now? To be honest I don't know but I'd also be directing the question to not just the board but the club's management

Just don't direct it to the RFC Official because you would get sweet stuff all from that dud
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2015, 10:14:58 PM »
I was one of the few (all 3 of us from OER lol) that voted against the changes to the RFC constitution that allowed for 3 appointed directors because I believe all 9 directors should be held accountable to the members and face the members every three years. It's our club after all and it's when things go awry that you regret the reduction of our democratic rights as members.

While there's nothing to back up Caro's claims in her article aside from "hints" from "Russo backers and spokesmen" and quotes from Russo's campaign website, if there's any truth to a division at board level over the leadership of the Club then, especially during an election, we as members should have the right to know who is backing whom. The Club is not the personal plaything of certain coterie types with huge deluded egos who want to play power games in the shadows away from members' scrutiny.

all directors are still accountable to the members. Even those appointed can be dismissed by the members.
Not when so many supporters pee their pants with joy at making finals.
 there are some supporters who think we have underachieved, have taken an extra ordinary amount of time to get where we are and that is basically middling, we think we have achieved nothing on field to date and we cant really see things significantly improving. . I am not surprised there are board members who also  think the same way.
The reason is results and we have as a footy club achieved sweet stuff all.

The only way to keep them honest is by having some  change. It is only when we achieve something  that any one should feel safe. Even then change will be needed.
I am against wholesale changes to the board but boards like footy teams need to refresh and change to get better and succeed. I would be happy for some change, not a take over not something divisive. Lets have someone new come in who has higher expectations and thinks a bit different about what we have done. I have said it heaps of times stagnate  and watch everyone go past you.

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #154 on: November 29, 2015, 10:25:27 PM »
yeah, well thats weird and off tangent from what i said, even for you
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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #155 on: November 29, 2015, 10:42:36 PM »
yeah, well thats weird and off tangent from what i said, even for you
I would have thought a great mind like your would have figured out the gist in the very first sentence. I see i give you far too much credit, I see  i will just have to revise my opinion on your ability to understand posts.

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #156 on: November 29, 2015, 10:47:00 PM »
that would be good and much appreciated.
it may lean towards actually keeping to the point i made when you quote me rather than going off on some bizarre tangent that is not relevant to the quoted post  :thumbsup.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #157 on: November 29, 2015, 11:01:54 PM »
that would be good and much appreciated.
it may lean towards actually keeping to the point i made when you quote me rather than going off on some bizarre tangent that is not relevant to the quoted post  :thumbsup.
What point would that be penny. Not the point that ALL DIRECTORS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE MEMBERS. I would say that All directors are not accountable to ALL members.
 I know its a subtle difference but i have to say i expected even the simplest of minds to pick up. As i said i give you way too much credit.To say im disappointed in you young man whoops young lady is an understatement.

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #158 on: November 30, 2015, 07:21:59 AM »
It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy
That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.

They have proven to be sophisticated charity workers.
Norf, Saints, Bulldogs (in particular) would be insolvent had they been lumped with Richmond's board.
It's well known that the supporters are what has kept the club afloat, the board have a bunch of accountants who know how to save money. That only gets you so far.
The fact you call it ridiculous just shows how out of touch you are.

fantastic post.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Fantastic post????

You are more deluded than HRT if you think that the post is fantastic. How on earth can anyone make a statement that if Norf, Saints and Bulldogs had our board they would be insolvent now? How could anyone prove this to be anywhere near correct? It can easily be shown to be incorrect too! AFL clubs now cannot be insolvent because of equalisation money and AFL hand outs to prop them up - something those teams already receive!!!!!!

How can the board be that bad? It is under them that our membership has turned around as at one point it was falling now we are 3rd in the league. This is on the background of zero finals success to boost the numbers. Since you say that the supporters have kept the club afloat, why was it that those same supporters were letting the club go broke before this board came in?

You know, the funny thing is if the umpire had paid the obvious holding the ball to Edwards and he kicked the goal putting us in front and if we then went on to win that game against Norf, I would bet my bottom dollar that nobody would be saying the board is fat and lazy! 

Yes, we still do rely of the FTF to make money. I still find that better than relying on the AFL to prop us up. I think the current board is continually improving our financial position on the background of increased football expenditure. That is something that is difficult to do and is an ongoing process. The one thing that would turbo charge this process would be to start winning finals. However, the board does not run out onto the ground to play the game.

I am also not saying that the board cannot do with fresh ideas, but to say they are fat and lazy is disrespectful to a group of individuals that put a lot of money and personal time into the club and on all reasonable counts have done a fine job in making us a big club. They have made us financially strong and marketable despite zero finals success. That is their job and they have done it well.
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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #159 on: November 30, 2015, 09:39:07 AM »
that would be good and much appreciated.
it may lean towards actually keeping to the point i made when you quote me rather than going off on some bizarre tangent that is not relevant to the quoted post  :thumbsup.
What point would that be penny. Not the point that ALL DIRECTORS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE MEMBERS. I would say that All directors are not accountable to ALL members.
 I know its a subtle difference but i have to say i expected even the simplest of minds to pick up. As i said i give you way too much credit.To say im disappointed in you young man whoops young lady is an understatement.

If you want to come into a conversation half way through then maybe you should read it all and try to understand the context of it.

we are talking about changes to the constitution, and despite the changes, there is still allowance for members to get rid of any board member.

Thats what my statement was in regards to, nothing more.

You jumped in and said it was wrong and started dribbling about supporters wetting themselves?

It doesnt matter how much irrelevant crap you dribble, it doesnt change that.

That was the discussion, but you quoted it, suggested it was wrong then took the discussion down a completely different path.

But then again that is the "workings" of the self proclaimed master football mind known as craw, AKA the rambling man
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #160 on: November 30, 2015, 12:51:53 PM »
Y&BB, if they actually communicated as to what exactly the Football Club was trying to achieve with those 5 pillars, how they were going to deliver it and why it was achievable then I'd retract that statement.
Bottom line, it's an uninspired message with no clarity and while it's not the boards remit they should be holding Benny and co responsible for more detail on that plan (it's been a year).
They have done it before 3 0 75 but for some reason they can't or won't put any meat on the bones for the second one.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #161 on: November 30, 2015, 04:41:46 PM »
Y&BB, if they actually communicated as to what exactly the Football Club was trying to achieve with those 5 pillars, how they were going to deliver it and why it was achievable then I'd retract that statement.
Bottom line, it's an uninspired message with no clarity and while it's not the boards remit they should be holding Benny and co responsible for more detail on that plan (it's been a year).
They have done it before 3 0 75 but for some reason they can't or won't put any meat on the bones for the second one.
I want success as much as anyone here. I also want a healthy profitable club. If you look at most clubs websites,  you rarely see clear objectives like 3 0 75. That was one out of the box. Do we need to have more like this? I don't know for certain.

We all want a premiership.  We have the administration sorted out. We now need to improve our playing personnel and coaching staff to the point where we succeed. I really think it's that simple.  We haven't had the cattle on the park to compete. We really now need Lennon, C.Ellis, Butler, Menadue, Markov, Rioli etc to step up over the next few years. Our top end has always been good. It's our bottom end that's been poor and plentiful.  Hardwick also must take responsibility for poor decisions in selections and game day coaching. He has till the end of next season to prove he can improve himself in those areas.
On field finals success will propel our finances too.
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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2015, 05:44:00 PM »
Uncle rup:

"The buck stops , with the guy that signs the cheque  "
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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #163 on: November 30, 2015, 09:42:41 PM »
Great movie. John Candy R.I.P
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Re: Richmond board turmoil tears at heart of club stability ..... (Age)
« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2015, 01:07:00 AM »
It really would be a house of cards if one or two new faces to the board were to tear the club apart.This is basically the argument against change. If this is the case then its not worth keeping in the first place.