Richmond Tigers record $500,000 profit ..... (Age)

[Stalin]

11 of the last 12 flags have been won by the team who spends the most according to Denham, but willy continues to get excited about 8th place

Bring on the Russomeister to sort this mess out 

The club with the biggest footy spend didn't play finals again in 2015. Actually said club capitulated in the 2nd half of the season (again) and they're about to give their Coach a contract extension. Yep Collingwood is a great example of the amount of spend equalling success. The bombers for memory are in the top 4 in spend and they've gone brilliant too these last fews years. Don't you think?

Nice twist of words yet again Angus. Nowhere did I say I was "excited" about being ranked 8th in footy deprt spend. All I said was there's been a massive improvement from where we were 4 years ago being in the bottom 3-4 to now.

As for Russo, you actually failed (more likely refused) to answer my question on the other thread about how you think he is (if elected) going to win us a flag and "sort this mess out" if he is just one person on board of nine?

but they also cut away the limbs of a flag winning side

and loaded up with high draft picks

and now have the core of a flag winning side, and the most kids in the league, many high picks, outside of the expansion sides

poor example imho

the eddie and bucks lovefest means no one is getting fired any time soon. they are doing whats best for the LONG term future. antithesis of the dimma-plodder-mates-shortterm-8th ambitions

[WilliamPowell]

Received a copy of the full financials today in my inbox

Will have. Decent read Ove the weekend if I have time

But during my stock standard quick browse of them I noted that since 2010 we've increased footy spend by $8 million dollars. would think that puts highlights where we have come from to where we are now

[Francois Jackson]

i look forward to reading your summary William to highlight where these funds actually go. Now regarding he footy spend im interested in 1 thing. Being first and holding up the cup.

History says in order to do this you need to spend the most on the actual footy department, which we have never done.

8th 4th 3rd last it matters very little. We have 70,000 members and have more bums on seats than any other club so where the stuff is this money going.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Received a copy of the full financials today in my inbox

Will have. Decent read Ove the weekend if I have time

But during my stock standard quick browse of them I noted that since 2010 we've increased footy spend by $8 million dollars. would think that puts highlights where we have come from to where we are now

Compare it to the top clubs Willy - especially those who have climbed the ladder in recent years

[Stalin]

Received a copy of the full financials today in my inbox

Will have. Decent read Ove the weekend if I have time

But during my stock standard quick browse of them I noted that since 2010 we've increased footy spend by $8 million dllars. would think that puts highlights where we have come from to where we are now

o yeah

my seach engine reckons collingwood were spending 23 million on the football department 2-3 years ago 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Received a copy of the full financials today in my inbox

Will have. Decent read Ove the weekend if I have time

But during my stock standard quick browse of them I noted that since 2010 we've increased footy spend by $8 million dllars. would think that puts highlights where we have come from to where we are now

o yeah

my seach engine reckons collingwood were spending 23 million on the football department 2-3 years ago 

And where has that got them....

[Penelope]

History says in order to do this you need to spend the most on the actual footy department.

stop making poo up.

8th 4th 3rd last it matters very little.

and this doesnt contradict your previous statement at all, does it?

[WilliamPowell]

History says in order to do this you need to spend the most on the actual footy department, which we have never done.

Sorry but that is incorrect and this "history" is distorted by the simple fact Hawthorn has won  the last 3 flags and in the top 4 in spend. 

Histroy and current data clearly show that 2 of the top four spenders have failed to play finals the last 2 season. With the biggest spender finishing 12 th this season. Put whatever spin you want on Collongwood but the fact is they despite spending the most have not played finals, they have gone backwards results wise

Outside of Hawthorn winning flags The Swans & Geelong are premiership winners and neither of them were in the top four of footy dept spend. So I would argue the amount you spend isn't the main contributor, the what and or the how your invest it is the key.

Look at the Bulldogs this year they'd be in the bottom 5 in spend but check out their results this year. their program appears to be good one, they look as if they are building towards something and they are not bigger spenders. So perhaps it's more about quality of the program rather than the quantity of dollars spent

[Francois Jackson]

yeah well i did say cats were not included and as for pies well they were first the year they won the flag. That's all that matters. Lets get to that stage and win a flag first aye. Perhaps the swans were the highest so perhaps i was wrong there, but Buldogs please, they wont win a flag lets be honest here. Not interested in finals appearances only flags.

WP let me ask you this. Do you honestly believe we can win a flag with the current people we have in place? I dont and i have been saying it for years we dont spend enough and the people we spend on are not really efficient at their job. How does williams that ex dees looking clown still have a job? Vickery's old man. Max Bailey 2 year wonder. Come on.

I would like for us to spend the most on talented staff not the rubbish we have at the moment. I will be content with second place if willy gets to look at the books. 8th place whilst higher than the year aint worth the paper it is written on and by 2020 we should be in the top quartet if we want a chance at winning a flag.

russo cant come on board quick enough IMO. 

[Stalin]

Received a copy of the full financials today in my inbox

Will have. Decent read Ove the weekend if I have time

But during my stock standard quick browse of them I noted that since 2010 we've increased footy spend by $8 million dllars. would think that puts highlights where we have come from to where we are now

o yeah

my seach engine reckons collingwood were spending 23 million on the football department 2-3 years ago 

And where has that got them....

the other team spending at that mark was.... hawthorn

[Stalin]

History says in order to do this you need to spend the most on the actual footy department, which we have never done.

Sorry but that is incorrect and this "history" is distorted by the simple fact Hawthorn has won  the last 3 flags and in the top 4 in spend. 

Histroy and current data clearly show that 2 of the top four spenders have failed to play finals the last 2 season. With the biggest spender finishing 12 th this season. Put whatever spin you want on Collongwood but the fact is they despite spending the most have not played finals, they have gone backwards results wise

Outside of Hawthorn winning flags The Swans & Geelong are premiership winners and neither of them were in the top four of footy dept spend. So I would argue the amount you spend isn't the main contributor, the what and or the how your invest it is the key.

Look at the Bulldogs this year they'd be in the bottom 5 in spend but check out their results this year. their program appears to be good one, they look as if they are building towards something and they are not bigger spenders. So perhaps it's more about quality of the program rather than the quantity of dollars spent

yeah na

collingwood were the first team to spend 20m+ , they won the flag, either coincidentally, as a result, or somewhere in between 

hawthorn were the only team in recent history to spend around the same as collingwood, they won the flag several times over

So I would argue the amount you spend is a pretty bloody important contributor

[one-eyed]

Other Clubs' 2015 financials announced so far:

Hawthorn FC record a profit of $3.3m.
$2m benefactor donation (which is NOT part of the reported profit)
Reduced debt by $1.2m
Increased its football department spend by 2% in 2015.
$1.35m paid to equalisation fund.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-13/hawks-pocket-premier-profit

Melbourne FC to announce a profit of $500k.
$5m debt ($4.1m owed to AFL). AFL debt expected to be reduced to less than $3m by early next year.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-demons-set-to-record-stronger-profit-this-year-20151111-gkwpke.html#ixzz3rGczu3A9

Carlton FC to announce a loss of $2m.
In danger of breaching a "debt ceiling" imposed by the AFL, which underwrites a maximum $5 million Westpac overdraft for every club in the competition. According to the most recent accounts, Carlton have overdrawn that facility.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-in-the-red-carlton-to-post-2-million-loss-break-debt-ceiling-20151110-gkvb0a.html#ixzz3rNQxpKaD

[WilliamPowell]

russo cant come on board quick enough IMO. 

I'll answer your other question later

But while we are asking question why don't you answer mine, you know the one I've asked 3 times and you ignored

Please tell me how Russo is going to win us flag?

Exactly what is he going?

He would be if elected 1 of 9 so tell me how on a democratic board that's votes on decisions so pleas etell me how is going to make all these sweeping changes you obviously believe he is going to achieve for you?

Serious explain how he is going to make this massive difference?

[tony_montana]

History says in order to do this you need to spend the most on the actual footy department, which we have never done.

Sorry but that is incorrect and this "history" is distorted by the simple fact Hawthorn has won  the last 3 flags and in the top 4 in spend. 

Histroy and current data clearly show that 2 of the top four spenders have failed to play finals the last 2 season. With the biggest spender finishing 12 th this season. Put whatever spin you want on Collongwood but the fact is they despite spending the most have not played finals, they have gone backwards results wise

Outside of Hawthorn winning flags The Swans & Geelong are premiership winners and neither of them were in the top four of footy dept spend. So I would argue the amount you spend isn't the main contributor, the what and or the how your invest it is the key.

Look at the Bulldogs this year they'd be in the bottom 5 in spend but check out their results this year. their program appears to be good one, they look as if they are building towards something and they are not bigger spenders. So perhaps it's more about quality of the program rather than the quantity of dollars spent

yeah na

collingwood were the first team to spend 20m+ , they won the flag, either coincidentally, as a result, or somewhere in between 

hawthorn were the only team in recent history to spend around the same as collingwood, they won the flag several times over

So I would argue the amount you spend is a pretty bloody important contributor

I agree, it's very important

[Gigantor]

what sweeping changes is he going to make?..Has he outlined any of these?....not that I'm aware of.
Have had enough of people coming to the club making sweeping statements without offering the nuts of bolts of how these things will be achieved..In the words of Pauline hanson........please explain