Richmond Tigers record $500,000 profit ..... (Age)

[Penelope]

Wogs love wogs.
It's as simple as that

[Yeahright]

russo cant come on board quick enough IMO. 

I'll answer your other question later

But while we are asking question why don't you answer mine, you know the one I've asked 3 times and you ignored

Please tell me how Russo is going to win us flag?

Exactly what is he going?

He would be if elected 1 of 9 so tell me how on a democratic board that's votes on decisions so pleas etell me how is going to make all these sweeping changes you obviously believe he is going to achieve for you?

Serious explain how he is going to make this massive difference?

Easier to knock them down if you've built them up

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

Can't imagine how bad the  was during the mid to late 00's.

People here have an incredible talent for turning positive news into negatives.

Happy with how the board are operating at the moment, bums are on seats, revenue up and spending increased but we don't seem to be getting ahead of ourselves.

Dimma rightly has to prove himself this year, but I'm tipping him to rise to the challenge! I think he's improved as a coach greatly. Just needs to figure out how to win a final.

[RedanTiger]

Please tell me how Russo is going to win us flag?

Exactly what is he going?

He would be if elected 1 of 9 so tell me how on a democratic board that's votes on decisions so pleas etell me how is going to make all these sweeping changes you obviously believe he is going to achieve for you?

Serious explain how he is going to make this massive difference?

Russo, like any new board member would hopefully shake things up by asking a few questions.
Not about the senior coach which is the useless short cut of most critics but questions that have been raised here.

Has an objective evaluation been done on the assistant coaches - their methods, results and feedback?
Is the relationship between development and assistant coaches best practice?
Has an exit interview been done with Clarke and Bailey and what were their responses?
Are the results of the recruiting department, after ten years under Jackson, good enough in response to the Inside Football story mid-season?
Are the living arrangements of new recruits satisfactory given that Martin was boarded at the ex-presidents and numerous new boys were placed with other players or even people outside the club like Rioli?

Just a few of these topics - and there are lots more - may prompt solutions to what appear from the outside to be failures of process.   

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Please tell me how Russo is going to win us flag?

Exactly what is he going?

He would be if elected 1 of 9 so tell me how on a democratic board that's votes on decisions so pleas etell me how is going to make all these sweeping changes you obviously believe he is going to achieve for you?

Serious explain how he is going to make this massive difference?

Russo, like any new board member would hopefully shake things up by asking a few questions.
Not about the senior coach which is the useless short cut of most critics but questions that have been raised here.

Has an objective evaluation been done on the assistant coaches - their methods, results and feedback?
Is the relationship between development and assistant coaches best practice?
Has an exit interview been done with Clarke and Bailey and what were their responses?
Are the results of the recruiting department, after ten years under Jackson, good enough in response to the Inside Football story mid-season?
Are the living arrangements of new recruits satisfactory given that Martin was boarded at the ex-presidents and numerous new boys were placed with other players or even people outside the club like Rioli?

Just a few of these topics - and there are lots more - may prompt solutions to what appear from the outside to be failures of process.

I guess the next question is - how do we know that these things haven't been done? How do we know if Russo will force them to do any of these things or other things if he gets elected?

The answer is we don't. I haven't heard anything come from Russo except the fact that the journo mentioned his financial contribution to the RFC FTF and that he is frustrated we haven't won a premiership. It would be very useful if he outlined exactly what he sees are the problems with the current board, how he will correct them and what he will bring to the table. If he can do that and it all makes good sense, I'd be happy to vote for him. However, he can't just sit there and state that he wants a premiership and expect to get elected.

[RedanTiger]

Please tell me how Russo is going to win us flag?

Exactly what is he going?

He would be if elected 1 of 9 so tell me how on a democratic board that's votes on decisions so pleas etell me how is going to make all these sweeping changes you obviously believe he is going to achieve for you?

Serious explain how he is going to make this massive difference?

Russo, like any new board member would hopefully shake things up by asking a few questions.
Not about the senior coach which is the useless short cut of most critics but questions that have been raised here.

Has an objective evaluation been done on the assistant coaches - their methods, results and feedback?
Is the relationship between development and assistant coaches best practice?
Has an exit interview been done with Clarke and Bailey and what were their responses?
Are the results of the recruiting department, after ten years under Jackson, good enough in response to the Inside Football story mid-season?
Are the living arrangements of new recruits satisfactory given that Martin was boarded at the ex-presidents and numerous new boys were placed with other players or even people outside the club like Rioli?

Just a few of these topics - and there are lots more - may prompt solutions to what appear from the outside to be failures of process.

I guess the next question is - how do we know that these things haven't been done? How do we know if Russo will force them to do any of these things or other things if he gets elected?

The answer is we don't. I haven't heard anything come from Russo except the fact that the journo mentioned his financial contribution to the RFC FTF and that he is frustrated we haven't won a premiership. It would be very useful if he outlined exactly what he sees are the problems with the current board, how he will correct them and what he will bring to the table. If he can do that and it all makes good sense, I'd be happy to vote for him. However, he can't just sit there and state that he wants a premiership and expect to get elected.

Your first question - if any of these things have been done why do we continue to have the same arrangements regarding coaching, recruiting and player living. I suppose if you have the attitude of "Nothing to see here folks, nothing to see" you won't notice anything. That is why I want someone on the board who will at least ask some questions about UNCHANGED arrangements.

Your second point - it's very difficult to "outline exactly what he sees as the problems" when you are not part of confidential discussions. You seem to question whether there are any problems at Richmond so I don't think you would accept any comment from an alternative about even questioning things.

BTW Do you agree with the way that the last board changes were organised?
   

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Please tell me how Russo is going to win us flag?

Exactly what is he going?

He would be if elected 1 of 9 so tell me how on a democratic board that's votes on decisions so pleas etell me how is going to make all these sweeping changes you obviously believe he is going to achieve for you?

Serious explain how he is going to make this massive difference?

Russo, like any new board member would hopefully shake things up by asking a few questions.
Not about the senior coach which is the useless short cut of most critics but questions that have been raised here.

Has an objective evaluation been done on the assistant coaches - their methods, results and feedback?
Is the relationship between development and assistant coaches best practice?
Has an exit interview been done with Clarke and Bailey and what were their responses?
Are the results of the recruiting department, after ten years under Jackson, good enough in response to the Inside Football story mid-season?
Are the living arrangements of new recruits satisfactory given that Martin was boarded at the ex-presidents and numerous new boys were placed with other players or even people outside the club like Rioli?

Just a few of these topics - and there are lots more - may prompt solutions to what appear from the outside to be failures of process.

I guess the next question is - how do we know that these things haven't been done? How do we know if Russo will force them to do any of these things or other things if he gets elected?

The answer is we don't. I haven't heard anything come from Russo except the fact that the journo mentioned his financial contribution to the RFC FTF and that he is frustrated we haven't won a premiership. It would be very useful if he outlined exactly what he sees are the problems with the current board, how he will correct them and what he will bring to the table. If he can do that and it all makes good sense, I'd be happy to vote for him. However, he can't just sit there and state that he wants a premiership and expect to get elected.

Your first question - if any of these things have been done why do we continue to have the same arrangements regarding coaching, recruiting and player living. I suppose if you have the attitude of "Nothing to see here folks, nothing to see" you won't notice anything. That is why I want someone on the board who will at least ask some questions about UNCHANGED arrangements.

Your second point - it's very difficult to "outline exactly what he sees as the problems" when you are not part of confidential discussions. You seem to question whether there are any problems at Richmond so I don't think you would accept any comment from an alternative about even questioning things.
 

I think you have missed my main point. The point is he hasn't said anything about what he hopes to do if he gets elected. You are the one that asked the questions. I would have hoped that it would have been him and not you that put forward those exact questions. How do you know he will do anything of what you have suggested? Why should I vote for him if he doesn't have a plan?
The club is currently experiencing its most stable period that I can remember, and I'm older than you I would have thought, having heard the 67 GF on the radio and attending the 69 GF. That stability is a great achievement on its own. The current board have also made the club financially stable with record membership numbers. Again, nothing to be scoffed at. Listening to the club you understand that they do acknowledge that we need on-field finals success despite these other achievements. The last thing we need is someone destabilising the board because they think they can win us a premiership. 
So bottom line is we need to hear from Russo what he plans to do if he gets elected, not from posters like yourself, if he wishes to be part of a successful bid to win a board position.

[WilliamPowell]

BTW Do you agree with the way that the last board changes were organised?
 

Hopefully I've understood your question

For me the answer is no. But it is the result of the members accepting the recommendation of the Club CEO to change the constitution. We as members have no one to blame but ourselves

Facts are The changes to constitution a few years back that gave the board the power to appoint 1 director a year out of 3 vacancies was wrong. But sadly at the AGM when it was voted on only 3 people (with one of those 3 holding a proxy of another member) voted against it. As a result we are reaping what we sow.

but having said, I have no problem with anyone nominating for the right reasons. Unfortunately, Mr Russo as yet hasn't shown he's nominated for the right  reasons. I want to hear what he offers to the board. What area can real add value to the club. It has to involve more than challenging and asking questions. You have to add value

I'd suggest that he doesn't need to know confidential info about the club to be able to outline these things and what value he can add.

[Yeahright]

Hasn't it been stated that he's 'campaign' will be outlined online shortly? Maybe I'm mistaken

[WilliamPowell]

Hasn't it been stated that he's 'campaign' will be outlined online shortly? Maybe I'm mistaken

Yes it has and I look forward to seeing what he has to say...

But right at the moment the only thing he has told us of note via his interview with the HUN was he's contributed over a $1 million bucks to the FTF and his company is the major sponsor of our VFL side.... shouldn't have made those the 2 main points of his "announcement". Just not a good look at all IMVHO as it is not relevant to whether he would make a good director. It doesn't guarantee it; it just means he has $$.

[Yeahright]

Hasn't it been stated that he's 'campaign' will be outlined online shortly? Maybe I'm mistaken

Yes it has and I look forward to seeing what he has to say...

But right at the moment the only thing he has told us of note via his interview with the HUN was he's contributed over a $1 million bucks to the FTF and his company is the major sponsor of our VFL side.... shouldn't have made those the 2 main points of his "announcement". Just not a good look at all IMVHO as it is not relevant to whether he would make a good director. It doesn't guarantee it; it just means he has $$.

Just because some pleb (Jon Anderson) reported that information in his article doesn't mean it was Joe Russo telling everyone in his announcement. Maybe you've seen a video or such that I haven't but from reading the article it doesn't appear like Russo was the one telling people that.

[WilliamPowell]

Just because some pleb (Jon Anderson) reported that information in his article doesn't mean it was Joe Russo telling everyone in his announcement. Maybe you've seen a video or such that I haven't but from reading the article it doesn't appear like Russo was the one telling people that.

I haven't seen any video, there hasn't been anything else bar the HUN interview.

With respect, how would Jon Anderson I would how much Russo contributed to the FTF? This isn't common knowledge, club certainly wouldn't tell him. So how did he find out? As for his company being the main sponsor of the VFL Adnerson wouldn't have gone looking for that either, he would have been told...so by who?

[WilliamPowell]

WP let me ask you this. Do you honestly believe we can win a flag with the current people we have in place? I dont and i have been saying it for years we dont spend enough and the people we spend on are not really efficient at their job. How does williams that ex dees looking clown still have a job? Vickery's old man. Max Bailey 2 year wonder. Come on.

I would like for us to spend the most on talented staff not the rubbish we have at the moment. I will be content with second place if willy gets to look at the books. 8th place whilst higher than the year aint worth the paper it is written on and by 2020 we should be in the top quartet if we want a chance at winning a flag.

Unlike you Angus I don't believe it is necessarily about how much you spend but what, how and who you spend it on. Hence, why I used the Bulldogs as an example. They aren't in the top ten of spend let alone top 4 but their development program is excellent. Just look at their VFL program, they are doing it the right way. Guarantee you they would be spending less than us in the area of development but I'd argue the development of their younger players is better than ours right now. That's what I mean by it's not always about how much but the "what, how and who"

I think I've made it very clear I don't like the way we approach our VFL set up and hopefully having McCrae back will mean this area will improve considerably. He was Director of Development at the Pies and their system via the VFL in making sure their kids were ready for AFL worked apart from them getting to finals 

You can bring in whoever you want, pay them truckloads but if the other parts of the program are not right then there is no guarantee of success. So again it isn't always about how much...

As for do I think the people we have in match day roles are the right mix? Some are some aren't. I have said many times I have an issue with John Vickery being at the club in an official role while his son is on the list. My view on that has not changed. As for Mark (non choco) Williams he is a 3 time premiership winning coach at VFL level. Which is 3 more than a few others in the coaches box so I reckon that may have something to with why he has a job. Do I rate him? I did originally but right now I think some fresh ideas and faces wouldn't go a stray.

Just on Max Bailey, I appreciate you never rated him but I know the young players did. Everyone of them I've spoken to during 2015 (one of the perks of being a player sponsor ) said the same thing and that was he taught them so much about preparation, dealing with tough times and professionalism. Like it or not that's the main role of a development coach, to teach and he did it very well

[RedanTiger]

BTW Do you agree with the way that the last board changes were organised?
 

Hopefully I've understood your question

For me the answer is no. But it is the result of the members accepting the recommendation of the Club CEO to change the constitution. We as members have no one to blame but ourselves

Facts are The changes to constitution a few years back that gave the board the power to appoint 1 director a year out of 3 vacancies was wrong. But sadly at the AGM when it was voted on only 3 people (with one of those 3 holding a proxy of another member) voted against it. As a result we are reaping what we sow.

but having said, I have no problem with anyone nominating for the right reasons. Unfortunately, Mr Russo as yet hasn't shown he's nominated for the right  reasons. I want to hear what he offers to the board. What area can real add value to the club. It has to involve more than challenging and asking questions. You have to add value

I'd suggest that he doesn't need to know confidential info about the club to be able to outline these things and what value he can add.

Actually no WP, you've got the wrong board fit-up.
Firstly the question was to a poster who demands so much from a board nominee.
Y&B Blood, do you agree with the way Speed and Walsh were APPOINTED to the board?
Also my post was a response to yours about one director having little influence on the board as a whole. As suggested by me, their best effect may be as an irritant to force questions. It was not meant as backing for a specific nominee as Y&B seems to take it.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

BTW Do you agree with the way that the last board changes were organised?
 

Hopefully I've understood your question

For me the answer is no. But it is the result of the members accepting the recommendation of the Club CEO to change the constitution. We as members have no one to blame but ourselves

Facts are The changes to constitution a few years back that gave the board the power to appoint 1 director a year out of 3 vacancies was wrong. But sadly at the AGM when it was voted on only 3 people (with one of those 3 holding a proxy of another member) voted against it. As a result we are reaping what we sow.

but having said, I have no problem with anyone nominating for the right reasons. Unfortunately, Mr Russo as yet hasn't shown he's nominated for the right  reasons. I want to hear what he offers to the board. What area can real add value to the club. It has to involve more than challenging and asking questions. You have to add value

I'd suggest that he doesn't need to know confidential info about the club to be able to outline these things and what value he can add.

Actually no WP, you've got the wrong board fit-up.
Firstly the question was to a poster who demands so much from a board nominee.
Y&B Blood, do you agree with the way Speed and Walsh were APPOINTED to the board?
Also my post was a response to yours about one director having little influence on the board as a whole. As suggested by me, their best effect may be as an irritant to force questions. It was not meant as backing for a specific nominee as Y&B seems to take it.

Whether I agree or not how Speed and Walsh were appointed is irrelevant to this. I was happy to see Speed on the board because I (rightly or wrongly) believed he brought in a wealth of experience in sport administration. You cannot get that experience by going out and buying it. Carl Walsh is a passionate Richmond man who also brings financial experience to the board. Many years ago he was very annoyed that Wizard backed Collingwood because he and many others high up in that firm were RFC supporters.
Property development per se does not have many skills sets that translate to sitting on a board. I'm not saying that Russo hasn't got anything to contribute either. However, he needs to outline what he brings to the table. We have a stable board that doesn't leak information - something that has been a long standing problem at our club in the past. Unless the person can convince me that he will make an improvement to the board, I will find it hard to support him. Telling people how much money you have tipped in doesn't impress me at all - hell if that were the case I might run for a board position lol! I just wish people would not announce challenges until they have their campaign ready - FFS they've been planning this for a while I would have hoped. By having it ready they could initially outline at least some of the ways they would improve the board and then they could inform us when their full plan of action will be released. By just coming out and telling us how frustrated they are that we haven't won a flag IMHO is just stupid. Every single RFC supporter has the same frustration. Does that mean every cashed up supporter should have a seat on the board? Obviously not. So I look forward to hearing what he plans to bring to the club.