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Buckenara has a few major differences to the footy journos. He has Collins and Tucker going before our pick while he has Oliver, Ah Chee & Burton all going in much later in the 20s.

He has Mathieson going to us by the way.


Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara nominates who your club should pick in the first round

Gary Buckenara
Herald Sun
November 20, 2015



ESSENDON should pick the next Josh Gibson and Jarryd Roughead with its prized top-10 selections in Tuesday’s draft, according to recruiting expert Gary Buckenara.

The former Hawthorn recruiter has nominated his entire first round and has backed Carlton’s expected choice of Jacob Weitering at pick 1 and expects five players from northern academies to go in the first round.

Buckenara says the Bombers should target versatile talls Aaron Francis and Charlie Curnow. Likening Francis to Gibson and Curnow to Roughead, Buckenara said it was impossible to put a price on key-position talent.

“When the key-position players are there, it’s very hard not to pick them instead of midfielders because it’s a bit easier to find them.”

Buckenara helped build Hawthorn’s three-peat premiership list, delivering a bounty in his first draft as sole recruiter in 2004 of Roughead, Lance Franklin and Jordan Lewis plus rookie Clinton Young.

The players selected in Buckenara’s phantom draft are based on his assessment of their talent and he has ranked academy players Callum Mills, Jacob Hopper, Matthew Kennedy, Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays where he expects other clubs to place bids on them on draft night.

Under the AFL’s new academy bidding system, a points value is assigned to every pick and clubs can draft academy players by ‘paying’ those points generated from later picks.


BUCKENARA’S PHANTOM DRAFT TOP 30



1. Carlton — Jacob Weitering


Defender, 195cm, 91kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Mt Eliza/The Peninsula School

Gary Buckenara says: This is a really important pick for the Blues and it will deliver a key-position defender in Weitering who can also play a forward role. He will predominantly be that key defender and should play senior footy in 2016. He’s a potential captain.



2. Brisbane Lions — Josh Schache

Forward, 199cm, 96kg, Murray Bushrangers/Seymour

Buckenara says: Schache will be a really good pick for Brisbane because he’s exactly what they need — he’s exactly what every club needs because this type of player is so hard to find. He’s a forward/ruckman with agility, reasonable pace and a reasonable leap to be able to go into the ruck when needed. He’s a beautiful kick on goal and hardly ever misses inside 50.



3. Melbourne — Darcy Parish


Midfielder, 181cm, 74kg, Geelong Falcons/Winchelsea

Buckenara says: Melbourne could bid for Swans Academy midfielder Callum Mills but I think they’ll go straight for Darcy Parish instead. Parish to me is the quality midfielder of this year’s draft pool. He’s got good pace, can win his own footy, is a good decision-maker and kicks the ball very well. Even though Melbourne has a lot of midfielders already, he’s the type of player who has proven in the Under-18s he can play a defensive role behind the footy and be a smart set-up player or go into the midfield and play as a ball-winner with pace and outside run.


4. Sydney Swans — Callum Mills

Midfielder, 186cm, 80kg, Sydney Swans Academy/North Shore

Buckenara says: An in and under midfielder, Mills is a competitive animal who is super fit, dedicated, has an elite kick and is a potential captain material down the track. He’s a class act.

*I expect Essendon to bid for Swans Academy player Callum Mills and the Swans will match it by using a combination of draft picks that equal pick 4.



5. Essendon — Aaron Francis

Forward/defender, 191cm, 92kg, West Adelaide/Woxton North

Buckenara says: Francis is a bit of a Josh Gibson type. He’s a tall defender who can come third man in because he reads the play really well but can also go forward and take a mark and kick a goal. Potentially, he could be a bigger-bodied midfielder, so he’s very adaptable in where he can play. There are question marks on his endurance, so I suspect he’ll play a defensive third-man role given the Bombers lost Jake Carlisle.



6. GWS Giants — Jacob Hopper

Midfielder, 187cm, 88kg, GWS Academy/North Ballarat

Buckenara says: Hopper is very similar to Mills but probably needs to work on his kicking a little bit. He’s a competitive in-and-under player who makes good decisions with the ball.

*I also expect the Bombers to bid for Jacob Hopper and the Giants will match it again by using a combination of draft picks that equal pick 6.



7. Essendon — Charlie Curnow

Forward/midfielder, 191cm, 95kg, Geelong Falcons/Torquay

Buckenara says: For the size factor I think the Bombers should go with Curnow. He can be a power forward but because he’s so athletic he can also play as a big-bodied midfielder and win the ball a bit, just like Jarryd Roughead. He can actually also do what Roughead does and that’s go into the ruck, but he can also go in and not ruck but win clearances. To me, that fits a need at Essendon. When the key-position players are there, it’s very hard not to pick them instead of midfielders because it’s a bit easier to find them.



8. GWS Giants — Matthew Kennedy


Midfielder, 187cm, 88kg, GWS Academy/Collingullie

Buckenara says: A nice size, Kennedy can play as a high half-forward. He’s very clever, reads the play well, has a great pair of hands, makes good decisions and is a beautiful kick..

*I expect the Suns to bid for GWS Academy player Matthew Kennedy and the Giants will match it by using a combination of draft picks that equal pick 8.



9. Gold Coast — Sam Weideman

Forward, 196cm, 94kg, Eastern Ranges/Vermont

Buckenara says: Sam has been injured but I liken him to a young Matthew Pavlich. He has very similar traits to Pavlich in that he competes really well, kick the ball well, he’s very athletic, is a nice size and is a potential key-position player. He does need to put a bit more of a body on and needs to get his injuries right, but he’d be a good fit. When the key-position players are there, clubs would be mad to bypass them.



10. Melbourne — Kieran Collins

Defender, 194cm, 100kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Langwarrin/Haileybury College

Buckenara says: Given that Melbourne gets Parish at pick 3, I’d go Collins here even though a lot of people have him going a bit further down the order. I still think he’s going to be a beauty as a key defender. He’s a Brian Lake type, he’s going to be a really big, strong man down back who is able to play on those strong forwards like Tom Hawkins. Sometimes it’s hard to find guys who are capable on playing on those big forwards, so when you’ve got a guy like Collins, who makes good decisions with the footy, is a good kick, reads the play quite well, he’d be an excellent pick and good fit for what Melbourne needs.



11. Carlton — Darcy Tucker


Half-back, 184cm, 80kg, North Ballarat/Horsham Saints

Buckenara says: Tucker is a beautiful left-foot kick, he has good endurance, reasonable pace, makes good decisions with the footy and adds a touch of class. He’s a bit of a ball carrier — he’s not afraid to take players on. He’s actually not too dissimilar to Kade Simpson and the Blues need another player like that. He’s also potential captain material going forward.



12. Adelaide — Wayne Milera

Half-forward, 185cm, 75kg, Central Districts/Ingle Farm

Buckenara says: A really clever player with good leg speed, makes good decisions with the footy and can play forward and midfield. He’s another type who can add class and polish to the Crows.



13. Carlton — Harry McKay

Forward, 200cm, 95kg, Gippsland Power/Warragul

Buckenara says: Given I’ve got them taking Tucker and most of the other key-position players are gone, a guy like McKay would be a nice addition. He’s only been playing footy for four or five years, he’s been more of a basketball guy so he came into the program late but really improved and gained a lot of confidence out of his performances in the Under-18 championships. He’s a tall, agile forward who can probably go into the ruck because he can jump. He does need to put a body on but he’s a perfect key-position size.



14. Richmond — Rhys Mathieson

Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Geelong Falcons/Bell Park

Buckenara says: Mathieson racks up the possessions, he’s a hardworking in-and-under player who makes good decisions with the footy. He’d be a really good pick-up for the Tigers to add some quality to their midfield depth.




15. Adelaide — Riley Bonner

Half-back, 191cm, 85kg, West Adelaide/Goodwood

Buckenara says: A tallish rebounding defender, Bonner is an Adelaide boy with a beautiful left-foot kick and provides a lot of drive off half-back because he loves to get the ball and run. His ball use is very good and similar to the way Grant Birchall distributes the ball. The go-home factor has probably hurt them a bit in the past so the fact he’s from Adelaide adds a bit of weight here.



16. Brisbane Lions — Eric Hipwood

Forward/defender, 199cm, 84kg, Brisbane Lions Academy/Aspley

Buckenara says: Hipwood is interesting. He can play as a key defender or key forward but is still very raw so the Lions will need to be patient with him. He is a good size and when he puts on a body, he will be a big boy and a fantastic addition. He’s a thumping kick.

*I expect the Saints to bid for Brisbane Academy player Eric Hipwood and the Lions to match it by using a combination of draft picks that equal pick 16.



17. St Kilda — Ben McKay


Forward/defender, 199cm, 95kg, Gippsland Power/Warragul

Buckenara says: The twin brother of Harry McKay, Ben does have similar attributes to his brother in his size and shape and he came into the system a bit later this year. At this stage, Ben probably plays a little bit harder than what Harry does and his form at the back end of the year was really good. He would fit well in the St Kilda playing model.



18. Hawthorn — Jade Gresham

Midfielder, 178cm, 77kg, Northern Knights/South Morang

Buckenara says: Given a few of the Hawks midfielders are getting older, Gresham would be a good addition. He was prolific in the TAC Cup and Under-18 championships, has good leg speed, good endurance and uses the ball well. He’s only small in stature but he does win his own ball and has the pace outside, not dissimilar to Billy Hartung who likes to take them on and break the lines. That type of player really goes well with Alastair Clarkson’s game plan.


 
19. Brisbane Lions — Ben Keays

Midfielder, 185cm, 83kg, Brisbane Lions Academy/Redland

Buckenara says: A nice mover, Keays is a neat left-footed midfielder who can also play as a rebounding half-back flanker. He is agile and takes them on. He might be a bit too left-sided, so he’ll need to work on using his right foot as well to give him another string to his bow.

*I expect the Suns to bid for Brisbane Academy player Ben Keays and the Lions to match it by using a combination of draft picks that equal pick 19.



20. Gold Coast — Harley Balic


Midfielder/half-forward, 187cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons/Parkdale

Buckenara says: A mobile midfielder who can play in a number of positions — half-forward, half-back but can go into the midfield — Balic is a competitor who wins his own footy and likes to take the game on. He has an adequate kick but I’d like to see that improve.



21. North Melbourne — Ryan Clarke


Midfielder, 185cm, 84kg, Eastern Ranges/Knox/Melbourne GS

Buckenara says: Clarke is the sort of player the Kangaroos really need — he has good leg speed, can take players on and is a good kick. With Ryan Bastinac leaving he can fill a void there on the outside but he’s also really competitive. He was probably the form player in the TAC Cup in the last half of the year.



22. Hawthorn — Callum Ah Chee

Half-forward, 182cm, 71kg, South Fremantle/Kelmscott

Buckenara says: A West Australian boy, on talent and class I think Ah Chee is one of the best players in the draft. He didn’t have the best of years or Under-18 carnival but that could be because WA didn’t have a good carnival itself. There is more to him than just being a half-forward flanker — he’s a clever playmaker when up the field so he can go into the midfield and he’s got some tricks. He can stand on heads and take a mark and he’s got the Cyril Rioli-style agility. He just needs to improve his tank because he’s been a player who can dominate for 10 minutes a quarter but then go missing.



23. Carlton — Tom Cole


Half-back, 185cm, 76kg, Sandhurst/Bendigo Pioneers

Buckenara says: A nice mover, Cole can play as rebounding defender, on the wing or as a high half-forward. He’s similar to Sam Docherty. He has pace, is a beautiful left-foot kick and makes good decisions with the ball. He’d be a good fit at the Blues.



24. Western Bulldogs — Clayton Oliver


Midfielder, 187cm, 86kg, Murray Bushrangers/Mooroopna

Buckenara says: There’s talk of Oliver going top 10 but when there are good key-position players early you just don’t pass on them and then I’ve got a number of other players in front of him and who are better fits for certain clubs. Oliver had a really good back end of the year where he really stood out, has a good strong body, is a competitive beast and wins a lot of the football. To me, halfway through the year he would have been a smoky pick but his performances in the second half have pushed him up the order.



25. Western Bulldogs — Jesse Glass-McCasker


Defender, 196cm, 95kg, Swan Districts

Buckenara says: I think Glass-McCasker has all the attributes. Similar to what I saw in Ben Stratton back in 2009, he can play on talls and smalls because he’s quick and reads the play very well. He’s a bit player-conscious at the moment but that’s because he’s just a kid. He’s a potential key-position defender.



26. Fremantle — Ryan Burton

Forward, 191cm, 90kg, North Adelaide/PHOS Camden

Buckenara says: The Dockers are crying out for a key forward and Burton is exactly that. Burton could go earlier because before his bad leg injury he was touted as a top-10 pick but I think the doubt sees him drift because that injury was a very serious one. He will need to be managed and patience is key as he gets some confidence back, but there is huge upside. He has good pace, a great pair of hands and is a beautiful kick.



27. West Coast — Josh Dunkley


Midfielder, 189cm, 86kg, Gippsland Power/Sale or James Parsons, midfielder, 189cm, 77kg, Eastern Ranges/Norwood

Buckenara says: If Dunkley doesn’t nominate as a father-son for Sydney, which reports suggest he won’t, he would be exactly the type of player Eagles coach Adam Simpson would be looking for. He’s a super competitor and can fill a role as a midfielder who wins the ball or as a lockdown hard-at-it defender who reads the play very well and will be third-man in all the time. He’s exactly the type of player that would suit West Coast’s style.

If Dunkley nominates as a father-son, James Parsons would be a good get as an elite runner who’s really quick, a good ball user and a reasonable decision-maker. On the big Subiaco ground, a guy like Parsons would fit very well.



28. Essendon — Daniel Rioli


Small forward, 179cm, 65kg, North Ballarat Rebels/St Marys

Buckenara says: The Bombers won’t let a Rioli slip this time. His combine testing was outstanding — his fitness has always been the query. He’s always been a bit of a later developer but his footy really took off and he showed some great signs this year. Essendon is crying out for that clever small forward and he’s just that.



29. Essendon — David Cunningham

Midfielder, 183cm, 85kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Boroondara Hawks/Melbourne GS

Buckenara says: Leg speed is an issue for Essendon so Cunningham can add something there. He’s a powerful athlete, very quick, carries the ball and is elusive. His leg speed can complement Travis Colyer’s game.



30. GWS Giants — Matthew Flynn

Ruckman, 200cm, 99kg, GWS Giants Academy/Narrandera

Buckenara says: The best ruckman in the draft. Initially he looked a bit overweight but he’s actually very mobile and gets around the ground well. He reads the play well, is a lovely kick and I’d liken him to how Todd Goldstein played at the same age.

*I expect the Kangaroos to nominate GWS Academy player Matthew Flynn and the Giants to match it by using a combination of draft picks that equal pick 30.



31. North Melbourne — Ben Crocker


Half-back, 185cm, 81kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Kew Comets

Buckenara says: The Kangaroos will go for best available who suits their needs and Crocker is that in that he has good leg speed, takes them on, carries the ball and has a good kick although it can be a bit inconsistent. But that might be a bit of a coaching thing in his decision-making, which could improve that element because he has a good technique.



32. Collingwood — Tom Doedee

Half-back, 187cm, 80kg, Geelong Falcons/St Joseph’s

Buckenara says: A very good reader of the play, Doedee is a bit like Andrew Mackie and also has a bit of Ben Stratton about him because he’s got the long arms and is agile so he can play tall and small. He’s got pace, agility and he reads the ball in flight very well so he can be a third-man up type.



33. North Melbourne — Oleg Markov

Midfielder/forward, 188cm, 73kg, North Adelaide/Gepps Cross

Buckenara says: Markov is one of my smokies for this draft but has big upside. His parents have an athletic background so Markov naturally is a good athlete and I thought he was outstanding in the Under-18 Championships for South Australia. He can jump, has good pace and the thing that got me is the improvement in his kicking from 2014 to 2015. He obviously worked really hard on it. He can play high half-forward or can go into the midfield.


34. Gold Coast — Tim Sullivan

Ruckman, 199cm, 90kg, Glenelg/Port MacDonell

Buckenara says: North Melbourne might also look at Sullivan because both teams need a ruckman. He’ll be a developer who they’ll need to put some time into and work on his kicking — it’s not bad but not great, either. He’s a nice athletic boy and this year was a learning year because it was the first time he was really exposed to a program. He’s not your typical 200cm plus ruckman — he has a great leap, is very mobile and can take a mark.



35. Western Bulldogs — Josh Schoenfeld


Midfielder, 187cm, 75kg, Peel Thunder/Rockingham

Buckenara says: An elite runner who tested very well at the combine, Schoenfeld broke the 3km time-trial record and has really improved his skills year on year and his ability to win his own footy — he was a bit outside in previous year. He has elite endurance, he’s a really hard runner and to have him on a wing or half-back flank, could be really damaging. In time he could be very similar to Isaac Smith.


BUCKY’S SMOKEYS

Clint Hinchcliffe — a midfielder from Perth who moves a bit like Sam Mitchell

Maris Olekalns — South Australian won the 20m sprint at the draft combine in 2.88 sec

Hisham Kerbaetieh — mid/forward from the Calder Cannons who booted 46 goals in the past two TAC Cup seasons

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2015-former-hawthorn-recruiter-gary-buckenara-nominates-who-your-club-should-pick-in-the-first-round/news-story/8b57a8034aeac9a47d9db82d0dd05cfe

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 02:05:44 PM »
Hawks get Gresham and Ah Chee - good luck with that Bucky

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 03:38:32 PM »
Hawks get Gresham and Ah Chee - good luck with that Bucky

That's the beauty of having two picks around and under 20

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 05:27:15 PM »
Someone remind our list managers....
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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 06:17:30 PM »
Hawks get Gresham and Ah Chee - good luck with that Bucky

That's the beauty of having two picks around and under 20

or if one of them slides and you got a bit 30 or 35 you are laughing ...
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 08:25:03 PM »
What is Buckenara doing now he isn't at Hawthorn? Anyone know?


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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 09:09:07 PM »
What is Buckenara doing now he isn't at Hawthorn? Anyone know?

Nothing but writing articles for the HUN during the FA, trade and draft period

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 10:19:16 PM »
What is Buckenara doing now he isn't at Hawthorn? Anyone know?

Nothing but writing articles for the HUN during the FA, trade and draft period

Not employed by any AFL Club  ATM
Would there be any reason anyone could think of why we wouldn't get this bloke to our club? He has been involved with the most successful club in the last 30 years and more recently a part of recruiting the side who have won 4 flags in 8 years.

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 10:34:59 PM »
What is Buckenara doing now he isn't at Hawthorn? Anyone know?

Nothing but writing articles for the HUN during the FA, trade and draft period

Not employed by any AFL Club  ATM
Would there be any reason anyone could think of why we wouldn't get this bloke to our club? He has been involved with the most successful club in the last 30 years and more recently a part of recruiting the side who have won 4 flags in 8 years.
He was named as Fgoty ops manager @ North Ballarat about 2 weeks ago

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2015, 12:03:23 AM »
Would there be any reason anyone could think of why we wouldn't get this bloke to our club?

He hasn't come from Port is the only reason I can think of

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2015, 07:07:13 AM »
What is Buckenara doing now he isn't at Hawthorn? Anyone know?

Nothing but writing articles for the HUN during the FA, trade and draft period

Not employed by any AFL Club  ATM
Would there be any reason anyone could think of why we wouldn't get this bloke to our club? He has been involved with the most successful club in the last 30 years and more recently a part of recruiting the side who have won 4 flags in 8 years.
He was named as Fgoty ops manager @ North Ballarat about 2 weeks ago
Maybe he has had enough of the recruiting side of things and needed a change but IMO it would be worth asking the question. Maybe we have??..,

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Re: Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara's Phantom Draft ... (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2015, 08:18:04 AM »
Is he the guy responsible for Thorp, Dowler, X. Ellis and Muston?
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2015, 11:17:41 AM »
Is he the guy responsible for Thorp, Dowler, X. Ellis and Muston?
May well be but you could probably live with that with 4 premiership cups in 8 years on your mantlepiece.
I'm not sure Hawthorn are to worried about those misses right about now.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2015, 06:48:21 PM »
Interesting to see where he has Oliver, Burton and Ah Chee compared to other draft commentators.

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2015, 07:40:09 PM »
Is he the guy responsible for Thorp, Dowler, X. Ellis and Muston?
May well be but you could probably live with that with 4 premiership cups in 8 years on your mantlepiece.
I'm not sure Hawthorn are to worried about those misses right about now.

How scary would they be with Selwood and Pendlebury
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