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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #645 on: December 14, 2015, 10:04:12 PM »
Where is the brawl footage? all I saw was some funniest home videos of clowns slapping at each other and darting away like startled fish, the odd gutless hyena sneak going a distracted target.... 
Lots of people name their swords......

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #646 on: December 14, 2015, 11:00:41 PM »
Will also add, the Manhatten yesterday when an all in brawl broke out between patrons after the McGregor v Aldo fight. Was chaos..

All parties walked away before the cops showed up. Video footage here
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/patrons-at-ringwoods-manhattan-hotel-in-wild-brawl-after-conor-mcgregor-wins-ufc-194/news-story/b30b775a580f36c4804daeb00737081f

Entertaining. Police were late to the scene. No charges laid. Nothing will be done about this ofcourse. Plus this happens quite a bit. Yet we have a pack of idiots on here, in the media and in society that wants to lock Dustin Martin up for 10 years over a drunken rumble.

If you look close enough I think Owl is in there somewhere...

For anyone who is looking for my point, this is actual assault. Yet nothing is done or deal is made. Yet we've all had to put up with the media circus, scathing attacks from club legends and some idiot posters over a drunken slur.

Right or wrong, get some perspective of the worlds problems.


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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #647 on: December 15, 2015, 02:47:15 AM »
Dustin Martin case gives AFL perfect chance to launch violence against women round

David Polkinghorne
The Age
15 December 2015


The cousin of alleged murder victim Tara Costigan says alcohol is only an excuse for violence against women and believes the AFL should be making more noise about the issue in the wake of allegations against Richmond star Dustin Martin.

It comes on the back of White Ribbon Australia's call for any AFL player charged with violence against women to be stood down from playing or training.

Nathan Costigan and his family gathered on Sunday for the christening of Tara's daughter Ayla, which was a "gut-wrenching experience to watch a little girl get baptised without her mum".

Tara's murder case against Marcus Rappel, where Rappel was accused of killing her with an axe in February, was still before the courts.

The Tuggeranong Hawks coach said one thing jumped out about the coverage of the Martin case, which the AFL referred to police after investigating allegations the Richmond midfielder had threatened a woman with a chopstick in a Melbourne restaurant last Saturday week.

Costigan said there were repeated references that Martin had been drinking at a music festival before the incident, but he said alcohol was irrelevant when it came to violence against women.

He said using alcohol as an excuse simply covered over the real reasons.

"One thing that I've learnt, and the Domestic Violence Crisis Service will back me up until the cows come home, is [alcohol] doesn't trigger it – it's already there," Costigan told Fairfax Media.

"That's just an out because that has nothing to do with it and I used to be someone that thought that ... I've found out the last 12 months it's totally not true.

"Don't just jump straight to grog and drugs and everything else because that just covers the real problem ... the problem lies within," he said.

Costigan was unsure about what punishment the AFL should impose if Martin was found to have threatened the woman.

Richmond legend Kevin Bartlett suggested a 12-month ban from the AFL, while Costigan thought community service, which included talking to people about violence against women, was an alternative.

But Costigan did think it provided the perfect opportunity to be vocal about the issue.

It's not the only case involving violence against women the AFL has been involved in.

Fremantle Dockers fan Cody Yarran received an eight-month jail term two weeks ago, after he was found guilty of striking a woman at an AFL match in September.

Costigan felt the off-season provided the AFL with the perfect platform to be vocal about a problem felt right across Australia.

He called for the AFL to introduce a themed round to raise awareness about domestic violence and violence against women in September and still felt that was a good idea.

"Why not take the opportunity – the second incident in three months – to really perk it up," Costigan said.

"At the moment domestic violence has a massive following. I think they'd be getting on a very big horse ... and by the time the season starts people would be right behind it."

Canberra's Thoroughbred Park hosted the Tara Costigan Foundation race day on Sunday, helping to raise money and awareness for Tara's Angels – personal caseworkers to help victims rehabilitate.

White Ribbon is a male-led campaign to end men's violence against women.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dustin-martin-case-gives-afl-perfect-chance-to-launch-violence-against-women-round-20151213-glmcyf.html

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Dustin Martin row exposes double standards on attitudes to violence (H-Sun)
« Reply #648 on: December 15, 2015, 02:50:02 AM »
Dust-up exposes double standards

“BUSINESS as usual for Dusty”. Last Friday’s afl.com.au headline tells us everything we need to know about society’s attitude towards violence against women. The message is clear. Disgraced Richmond player Dustin Martin is allowed to keep  training as usual while allegations of violence against him are being investigated by the AFL and the police."

Paywall: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/susie-obrien/dustin-martin-row-exposes-double-standards-on-attitudes-to-violence/news-story/ffc3881ea2f2dbcf70f2dfee689837cd

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #649 on: December 15, 2015, 06:27:17 AM »
There it is..again

This is becoming a farce. White ribbon has entered the race as the board obviously see a big chance to line their pockets further for their "not for profit" organisation

Jeff Kennett, Rosie Batty, and George Pell to speak soon about this tragedy
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #650 on: December 15, 2015, 06:44:52 AM »
Is violence against women bigger than violence against men ? That's sexist.. What happened to gender equality ? I'm going to start an organisation .. Gender equality - but only when they want it.
This whole thing stinks of the Adam Goodes saga. Everyone in the media proving they aren't sexist and really stand for violence against women to not be tolerated, just as they stood for 'racism' to not be tolerated. Bunch of scared manipulated rats with no courage to publish the truth.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #651 on: December 15, 2015, 11:55:10 AM »
Women who cop violence usually provoked some muthfukka. Lol
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #652 on: December 15, 2015, 12:26:41 PM »
Why blame society when you can blame dusty?
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #653 on: December 15, 2015, 12:47:34 PM »
White ribbon tosser 1:  but he apparently did not touch her?


White ribbon tosser 2:  yes, but he got tramp stamps and is a famous minority



Homosapians hae been battering females fi tens thousand years.  It's a bit complex isn't it.  Let pin it on dusty
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Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #654 on: December 15, 2015, 04:06:22 PM »
That article by David Polkinghorne made me laugh.
Alcohol has nothing to do with violence and/or is no excuse for violence.
This guy must live in a bubble.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #655 on: December 15, 2015, 04:09:28 PM »
He must have missed the Darwin prison musical on sbs last week too

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #656 on: December 15, 2015, 04:56:46 PM »
Is violence against women bigger than violence against men ? That's sexist.. What happened to gender equality ? I'm going to start an organisation .. Gender equality - but only when they want it.
This whole thing stinks of the Adam Goodes saga. Everyone in the media proving they aren't sexist and really stand for violence against women to not be tolerated, just as they stood for 'racism' to not be tolerated. Bunch of scared manipulated rats with no courage to publish the truth.

Seriously? You think there's an issue of violence against men FROM WOMEN? I'm sure there is SOME, but let's not kid ourselves... violence against women is far more significant of an issue than violence against men, and even more damning is that violence against men is mostly performed by other men - not women.

The VAST majority of domestic violence is inflicted on females by their male counterparts.

http://www.domesticviolence.com.au/pages/domestic-violence-statistics.php

I'm all for equality myself, but there is a huge issue that needs to be addressed when it comes to the attitude of men towards women.



Gender equality is one thing. Don't confuse it with 'gender sameness'. Men are far more prone to violent acts than women. It's hormonal...

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #657 on: December 15, 2015, 05:21:56 PM »
Is violence against women bigger than violence against men ? That's sexist.. What happened to gender equality ? I'm going to start an organisation .. Gender equality - but only when they want it.
This whole thing stinks of the Adam Goodes saga. Everyone in the media proving they aren't sexist and really stand for violence against women to not be tolerated, just as they stood for 'racism' to not be tolerated. Bunch of scared manipulated rats with no courage to publish the truth.

Seriously? You think there's an issue of violence against men FROM WOMEN? I'm sure there is SOME, but let's not kid ourselves... violence against women is far more significant of an issue than violence against men, and even more damning is that violence against men is mostly performed by other men - not women.

The VAST majority of domestic violence is inflicted on females by their male counterparts.

http://www.domesticviolence.com.au/pages/domestic-violence-statistics.php

I'm all for equality myself, but there is a huge issue that needs to be addressed when it comes to the attitude of men towards women.



Gender equality is one thing. Don't confuse it with 'gender sameness'. Men are far more prone to violent acts than women. It's hormonal...

No. But why does it matter about the stuffen gender ? That's what peees me off. No ones stopping women learning self defence... Going to the gym.. Getting beefed up. What if it was ronda rousey that he threatened ? He may have a broken nose instead... Women only want equality when it suits them.

And before someone says ' oh they shouldn't have to learn self defence or gain muscle ' well that's the world we live in, for males included. I know when I was a kid I got taught how to defend myself. 

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #658 on: December 15, 2015, 05:23:48 PM »
I'd like to make a mockumentary about PC fksicks and show the similarities between catholic brainwashing rubbish and PC rubbish.

Follow some around for a month and watch how their opportunistic minds work.

That would be the end of them  :lol
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #659 on: December 15, 2015, 05:38:37 PM »
Is violence against women bigger than violence against men ? That's sexist.. What happened to gender equality ? I'm going to start an organisation .. Gender equality - but only when they want it.
This whole thing stinks of the Adam Goodes saga. Everyone in the media proving they aren't sexist and really stand for violence against women to not be tolerated, just as they stood for 'racism' to not be tolerated. Bunch of scared manipulated rats with no courage to publish the truth.

Seriously? You think there's an issue of violence against men FROM WOMEN? I'm sure there is SOME, but let's not kid ourselves... violence against women is far more significant of an issue than violence against men, and even more damning is that violence against men is mostly performed by other men - not women.

The VAST majority of domestic violence is inflicted on females by their male counterparts.

http://www.domesticviolence.com.au/pages/domestic-violence-statistics.php

I'm all for equality myself, but there is a huge issue that needs to be addressed when it comes to the attitude of men towards women.



Gender equality is one thing. Don't confuse it with 'gender sameness'. Men are far more prone to violent acts than women. It's hormonal...

No. But why does it matter about the stuffen gender ? That's what peees me off. No ones stopping women learning self defence... Going to the gym.. Getting beefed up. What if it was ronda rousey that he threatened ? He may have a broken nose instead... Women only want equality when it suits them.

And before someone says ' oh they shouldn't have to learn self defence or gain muscle ' well that's the world we live in, for males included. I know when I was a kid I got taught how to defend myself. 

It sounds like you don't blame men for violence against women, nor Dusty for this incident with the woman in question?

What you're doing is victim-shaming.

Women, on average, possess 40% of the upper body strength of men. Therefore a woman learning to defend herself from the violence of a man isn't a simple thing, nor should it ever be necessary (but certainly encouraged IMO). They shouldn't have to go to the gym to get stronger and learn martial arts so that they can feel safe around men, and to suggest such a thing is truly misogynistic!

If if you truly think that we live in a society where the onus is on women to prevent violence from men then society itself needs to change on a larger scale. It is NEVER acceptable and it is NEVER the victim's fault that they have been subjected to violence.