Author Topic: Richmond reveals grand plan for 40,000-seat stadium at Punt Rd ...... (H-Sun)  (Read 6643 times)

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Collingwood boss Eddie McGuire says comparing it to his plans, revealed by the Herald Sun last week, is “like comparing apples and elephants”.

According to the Magpies president, a more holistic approach is needed.
 
“This is a couple of years old this plan,” he said on Triple M.

“Let me go back to what the premise was for this – we needed a smaller ground. There have been plans – I’ve got plans actually, and I’m not being silly here, for Victoria Park… moving across to the railyards, we’ve looked at Arden Street Oval. Princes Park doesn’t work for the same reason it shut down – local residents won’t let you do parking and the rest of it.

“If you want to have a game of footy, this is a great idea. But if you want to build a concert venue, have the Olympic Games in Melbourne, then I believe you have to go for the big one.”

Punt Road works because it’s next to Richmond station.

“The Tigers one is a good idea in the precinct. Where it differs from my idea is this – the Tigers’ idea is that we keep Etihad, and that’s fine, and we build this.

“Now all up, there’s not going to be much change out of $800 million by the time you fix up Etihad and you do this. It’s all very well to say Etihad is worth $1 billion – it’s only worth something if you sell it.

“My thesis has always been about redeveloping Punt Road and a bigger infrastructure plan – Melbourne rather than footy.

“If you want to have a game of footy, this is a great idea. But if you want to build a concert venue, have the Olympic Games in Melbourne, then I believe you have to go for the big one.”

Former AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou was a key supporter of the plans when they were mooted in 2013 and the cost of an 18,000-seat stadium was put at $180 million.

A capacity increased to 40,000 would mean a blowout to an estimated $380 million.

It is understood senior AFL officials have seen architects’ drawings, revealed by the Herald Sun.

Funding would be expected to come from the AFL and the State Government and would not require the sale of Etihad Stadium, like the McGuire plan.

Punt Rd should be in the frame. It’s an existing venue (and) it wouldn’t require the selling of Etihad Stadium

Gale said Punt Rd was an obvious choice for a third venue.

“We are in the process of developing a master plan for this precinct,” Gale said.

“Back in 2013, Demetriou was the driver of this and the attraction for them was having a lower capacity, lower cost stadium for smaller fixtures.

“And also stadium economics and finances are the biggest driver of disparity of wealth (among clubs) and we could try to address that by having a third venue.

“So, Andrew said ‘would you be interested in having a look at it for Punt Rd?’

“Punt Rd should be in the frame. It’s an existing venue, it wouldn’t require the selling of Etihad, and the Richmond railway station has been the agenda for a number of years and maybe this gives the government the opportunity to redevelop that.”

The debate ignited when Collingwood president McGuire suggested a new stadium on the Hisense Arena site prompted the Richmond senior management to put the Punt Rd plans back on the agenda at a meeting two weeks ago. The MCC was also briefed.

There is no State Government engagement as yet, but Gale believes Premier Daniel Andrews, who is also a supporter in principle of McGuire’s stadium plan, should be a substantial funds contributor.

“The economic impact of this game is huge, $3 billion, half a million members, how many fans are there in Victoria?’’ Gale said.

“This game is a huge driver of this economy. And I think we’re entitled to question the extent our government invests in football relative to other states.”

It is understood the AFL favours a refurbishment of Etihad Stadium rather than selling it and building at Hisense Arena, and Gale agrees.

“Our personal view is we keep Etihad Stadium,” he said.

“It’s going to be worth $1 billion and we’ve got an 18th share in that in 2026. It’s a huge asset for the competition.

“So, what’s attractive about this is the capacity of maybe 40,000, which would support the business models of some clubs.”

McGuire’s plan, which would cost an estimated $1 billion, has the support of several clubs and major events king Ron Walker.

But not everyone believes it would be the right move. Former Premier Jeff Kennett has said the idea was already “dead and buried”.

The Tigers have a lease at Punt Rd and would use it as club HQ and training ground.

They believe a redevelopment of the railway station, with a new stadium on the way to the MCG, would enhance one of the world’s best sporting precincts.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-reveals-grand-plan-for-40000seat-stadium-at-punt-rd/news-story/1206f2549e5a4166381f96e5c70d162b#load-story-comments

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Gale going for a Strategic Master Plan for the precinct is a major advantage over Eddies Idea. As far as DELWP goes and the State Govt Treasury,  It ticks procedural boxes for land use and development as well as funding and makes Eddies plan look comical.

The heritage matter re the Dyer stand can be got around. Demolish and rebuild/incorporate.

Don't be surprised if this actually gains momentum maybe more seats but yeah  :gotigers
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If we were a minnow club , I'd be all over it , we aren't so how the stuff do 80000 members fit in . There will be no GA for even a GC game, will be fully ticketed . I hate the idea
Pro is our trademark that would be completely lost for the benefit of the bottom swilling minnows that couldn't fill a telephone booth
Can't stand the idea   :thumbsdown
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If we were a minnow club , I'd be all over it , we aren't so how the stuff do 80000 members fit in . There will be no GA for even a GC game, will be fully ticketed . I hate the idea
Pro is our trademark that would be completely lost for the benefit of the bottom swilling minnows that couldn't fill a telephone booth
Can't stand the idea   :thumbsdown

Think of it like this Bojo.

1) % of gate receipts to the club (albeit a slice on a game day, but)we are talking about a significant amount per annum.
2) world class next level training centre (rather than keeping with the pack as per current).
3) 40 Will end up 50k. Happy to pack it out 3-4 games per year as a Richmond home game.  Members pay. Up yours interstate teams.
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50 would make it a bit more,versatile but I fear that they would model it smaller to keep costs down, can't see how we would skim the gate if funding was to be mainly from govt and AFL, unless of course we financed it from JDF  :shh
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50 would make it a bit more,versatile but I fear that they would model it smaller to keep costs down, can't see how we would skim the gate if funding was to be mainly from govt and AFL, unless of course we financed it from JDF  :shh

Finance it through the JDF? Please that is ...well. ..a....with respect an absolutely stupid comment

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Melbourne rectangular stadium only cost 300 million

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This is a bad idea for the RFC , we would have very little control should it progress with the major stakes being afl and govt . We would play second fiddle to a JV convention being booked at the ground during our pre season 
No longer would the facade be yellow and black. Our Richmond trademark gone . We would be like Melbourne with no home
I don't expect the  board and Ceo of the RFC to spend valuable time dreaming up a model that will make the minnows life easier. We need to be planning the next dynasty and that takes time and resource.
If this goes much further , all hell may break loose  :shh
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Do you seriously think that even Richmond would be stupid enough to formulate, put forward and then sign -off on a plan that would ultimately disadvantage the club in any way?




Actually..... don't answer that..... :whistle
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There are lots of ways to add rev streams utilising punt rd, what about a Sunday flea market during the off season , 500 stalls at $500 ea . That's 250k per weekend . You could make the place look like an Istanbul street bazar , it's that easy. But I'm sure the commercial ops team have got better ideas  ::)
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There are lots of ways to add rev streams utilising punt rd, what about a Sunday flea market during the off season , 500 stalls at $500 ea . That's 250k per weekend . You could make the place look like an Istanbul street bazar , it's that easy. But I'm sure the commercial ops team have got better ideas  ::)

Yeah reach for those stars Bojo. Maybe we could open up an OP shop too
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Yes let's put stalls & crap all over the ground and have thousands of people just trapesing about the place every weekend....I'm sure it'll work wonders for the training & playing surface....
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Yes let's put stalls & crap all over the ground and have thousands of people just trapesing about the place every weekend....I'm sure it'll work wonders for the training & playing surface....

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There are lots of ways to add rev streams utilising punt rd, what about a Sunday flea market during the off season , 500 stalls at $500 ea . That's 250k per weekend . You could make the place look like an Istanbul street bazar , it's that easy. But I'm sure the commercial ops team have got better ideas  ::)

 :lol
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