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Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« on: April 04, 2016, 11:00:34 PM »
Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat

Jake Niall
The Age
5 April 2016


RICHMOND players have taken responsibility and pinpointed the failings in the final minutes that saw them blow a seemingly certain victory against Collingwood.

In the team review of the Round 2 loss on Monday, players were quick to acknowledge the actions and inactions which had enabled Collingwood to kick the last three goals, including two within the final 106 seconds on Friday night.

Sources said the coaches, who had reviewed the Collingwood game — the usual practice — before the team meeting, did not need to highlight what had gone awry to the players, who were well aware of the specific problems in those frenetic final minutes, in which Alex Fasolo booted two goals then Brodie Grundy booted the match-winner with just four seconds left on the clock.

It is understood there was no uncertainty from the players about what should have been done and the feeling is that they had been practised icing the game in this kind of situation — as they did against Carlton only eight days earlier.

One of the failings identified by players and coaches in those last few minutes was that kicks had not been directed to the “spare” player, which the Tigers had in defence. Kamdyn McIntosh and Alex Rance both kicked long to where Collingwood out-numbered the Tigers, rather than using the spare player as a shorter target and eating up the clock. McIntosh could have kicked to Bachar Houli, who was spare at that time.

The view was that one of the taller forwards should have followed Grundy down the field, too, while his rucking opponent, Shaun Hampson, was defending the goal line. There were a number of other mistakes, too, that the Tigers identified.

Coach Damien Hardwick said after the game that the Tigers lost due to “unintelligent” football towards the end of the game.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-players-take-full-responsibility-for-round-2-loss-to-collingwood-in-monday-review-meeting/news-story/39a7a62868d6a40d1cece5497d6ecb73

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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 11:52:34 PM »
Sign of a poor team when they continually identify their failings but then repeat the same errors when under pressure. To me it says we dont have the class across the ground to cope with such situations nor the leadership. Again we need to rectify the source of these issues rather than treating the symptoms.

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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 12:36:25 AM »
To me it speaks mostly about the poor preparation year in, year out.
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 07:18:59 AM »
Heard it all before. PR bullpoot
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 09:38:03 AM »
The only redeeming thing is that they have a whole season ahead to walk the walk.......
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 10:26:17 AM »
The only redeeming thing is that they have a whole season ahead to walk the walk.......

yeah like they did the previous ones where they  were bent over. Wake up! These blokes will never learn. Its part of their make up now.



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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 11:49:14 AM »
2012 was the year we lost a number of close games after being in winning positions.....disappointing , but a developing team so benefit of the doubt.

2013 , we lose to Freo at Subiaco because we cant defend for 1 minute.

2014 , win a number of close games - are we finally playing smart "mature " footy ?

2015 , again we lose to Fremantle because of 1 simple brain implosion.

2016 , Biggest choke in recent memory ....making pathetic mistakes that cost us 4 valuable points. Everyone asking again who are our leaders on the field. Making the same dumb errors as 2012.
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2016, 12:10:35 PM »
All any team has to do to beat RIchmond is apply pressure.
Even better if it's during a pressure part of the match as well.
Step right up _ watch them come second, time after time !
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2016, 12:29:14 PM »
The only redeeming thing is that they have a whole season ahead to walk the walk.......

yeah like they did the previous ones where they  were bent over. Wake up! These blokes will never learn. Its part of their make up now.
I never said I was confident that they can turn it around. There is a lot of talk coming from the playing group. FFS they should not need the coaches telling them what to do in those situations. They should have learnt this in all those team meetings and coaching sessions at Punt road.
They continue to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory. The only way they can prove that this will not happen again to them is by the on field results.
You are indicating that this is impossible for the current playing group and maybe you're right. As a supporter though I try to give them at least a small chance to prove themselves or else I may as well not go to games or support the club at all.
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 12:54:24 PM »
To me it speaks mostly about the poor preparation year in, year out.

Agree
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 12:58:50 PM »

The view was that one of the taller forwards should have followed Grundy down the field, too, while his rucking opponent, Shaun Hampson, was defending the goal line. There were a number of other mistakes, too, that the Tigers identified.


That's all well and good but WTF was Hampson doing? He was in neither manning up Grundy or protecting the goal line

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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2016, 01:17:18 PM »
And all Houli has to do was jump forward and hold his hands up, the ball would not have cleared him.

Instead Houli jumps up and pulls his hands down allowing the ball a free path to goal.

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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 01:26:01 PM »
The problem with taking responsibility is being then made accountable for it.
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Re: Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 01:51:33 PM »
And all Houli has to do was jump forward and hold his hands up, the ball would not have cleared him.

Instead Houli jumps up and pulls his hands down allowing the ball a free path to goal.
that sounds like match fixing?
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All 22 Tigers to blame for loss to Pies: Lambert ... (afl site)
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 11:32:40 PM »
All 22 Tigers to blame for loss to Pies: Lambert

AFL.com.au
5 April 2016


RICHMOND'S senior players are not solely to blame for Friday night's meltdown against Collingwood and all 22 should share responsibility for the loss, according to forward Kane Lambert.

The Tigers have come under fierce scrutiny for letting a 17-point lead slip deep in the fourth quarter of their round two clash, going down after conceding a goal with just four seconds remaining.

Captain Trent Cotchin has borne the brunt of the criticism, along with senior player Ty Vickery, who chose to play on at a crucial stage of the game rather than soaking up time.

But Lambert said it was not right to single out the senior group, and the entire team should have been better in executing the coaches' plan in the dying minutes.

"All 22 take responsibility. It's not one or two, it's all 22," Lambert said.

"We just failed to execute when it mattered. It was poor decisions and our execution.

"We've got to take action as players, whether it's sending a number behind the ball or making it a more contested style of game to keep the ball in close.

"We've got to make decisions at times … I'm sure if we're in that position again we'll learn from this."

On the criticism of Cotchin, who has also been defended by Hawthorn counterpart Luke Hodge, Lambert said: "I'm extremely comfortable having Trent as my captain".

"Ever since I walked into the club last year, Trent's impressed me with the way he goes about his footy and the way he leads this footy club," he said.

Richmond leads the AFL since 2010 for losing a lead in the final three minutes, squandering five matches in that period.

Lambert said the Tigers had been put through "a refresher" on their game style for late in games when they hold a manageable lead.

"We trained this all summer and unfortunately we failed to execute," he said.

"It's out of the coaches' hands at that time of the game and as players we take responsibility.

"We should have been better in that last five minutes."

On his own form, Lambert was pleased with the impact his growing fitness base and increased size had had in the opening two rounds.

The 24-year-old, who arrived at the Tigers as a mature-age VFL recruit, has been particularly impressive late in games and he admitted he was a fan of the new interchange cap "to some degree".

"With the rotations being capped at 90 we've got to find a way to stay on the ground longer and be more efficient," he said.

"If that can be late in games and I can use it to my advantage then I'm happy with that."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-05/all-22-tigers-to-blame-for-loss-to-pies-lambert