Tigers players take full responsibility for defeat (Age)

[Go Richo 12]

Maybe Astbury is a dumb poo too?

[Stalin]

Maybe Astbury is a dumb poo too?

thats a possibility

another, is hardwick is a dumb poo

[WilliamPowell]

Sixth year at a club and still can't articulate to the players what he requires of them during a game.

Yeh right, dimmer.

Truth is you have N F I about what to do, let alone be expected to articulate it.

There's the biggest problem.

It's one of the problems

Situation not helped by our players not following instructions that have been in place for a very long time. What went on in the last 3 minutes from hell is not what they've been instructed when it comes to "icing the clock"..

We still have far too many panic merchants when the heats on

They (and by they I mean coach, assistants coaches and players) are all to blame for last Friday night. Every single one of them.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Blame is one thing, taking responsibility is another but at what point does anyone get held accountable for reoccurring mistakes?

[WilliamPowell]

Blame is one thing, taking responsibility is another but at what point does anyone get held accountable for reoccurring mistakes?

Again every single one of them needs to take responsibility for their collective ineptitude, they all should be held to account, all of them

Starting at the top and going right through the collective

[big tone]

Did anyone see the 3 or 4 clips they showed on AFL 360 the other night of us losing those most recent close games of the last couple of years? There was a common denominator in all those clips and it was Houli. The sooner he is removed from our backline the better. HE ISNT A BACKMANS hole. He is a decent kick but surely his defending is an issue. He is often the lose man in our defense but only ever hurts the bottom sides. He panics and he is soft and hasn't got an aggressive bone in his body. 

[Go Richo 12]

Blame is one thing, taking responsibility is another but at what point does anyone get held accountable for reoccurring mistakes?

Again every single one of them needs to take responsibility for their collective ineptitude, they all should be held to account, all of them

Starting at the top and going right through the collective

Agree. Honestly, you don't need a coach to teach players how to play in those circumstances.

[WilliamPowell]

Did anyone see the 3 or 4 clips they showed on AFL 360 the other night of us losing those most recent close games of the last couple of years? There was a common denominator in all those clips and it was Houli. The sooner he is removed from our backline the better. HE ISNT A BACKMANS behindhole. He is a decent kick but surely his defending is an issue. He is often the lose man in our defense but only ever hurts the bottom sides. He panics and he is soft and hasn't got an aggressive bone in his body.

Understand what you are saying

But big tone, who have we got to put in that position who can give us the run (stress run) and carry from the defensive back half? And I am talking about someone who actually has some speed and endurance

That's part of the issue right at the minute I think anyway, we have no one else who can do that. That was what Yarran was recruited for but he is yet get on the park and is still a few weeks away form getting game time at VFL level let alone AFL level

[JP Tiger]

Did you see how many set shots Houli missed?  Yep, lets blame him ... & only him ... 

[big tone]

Did anyone see the 3 or 4 clips they showed on AFL 360 the other night of us losing those most recent close games of the last couple of years? There was a common denominator in all those clips and it was Houli. The sooner he is removed from our backline the better. HE ISNT A BACKMANS behindhole. He is a decent kick but surely his defending is an issue. He is often the lose man in our defense but only ever hurts the bottom sides. He panics and he is soft and hasn't got an aggressive bone in his body.

Understand what you are saying

But big tone, who have we got to put in that position who can give us the run (stress run) and carry from the defensive back half? And I am talking about someone who actually has some speed and endurance

That's part of the issue right at the minute I think anyway, we have no one else who can do that. That was what Yarran was recruited for but he is yet get on the park and is still a few weeks away form getting game time at VFL level let alone AFL level

I really like what I saw from McIntosh the other night off half back. He is tough, and he will run all day. He is definitely not as good a kick as Houli but at least he can defend first and foremost.
McIntosh and Vlastuin off halfback for mine.

[big tone]

Did you see how many set shots Houli missed?  Yep, lets blame him ... & only him ...

From memory his missed one on the run.
But missing goals and not defending them are exactly the same.

[Penelope]

so that puts cotchin in the same bag as houli?

[Stalin]

and grigg and all the other potatoes in the sack

[Yeahright]

Did anyone see the 3 or 4 clips they showed on AFL 360 the other night of us losing those most recent close games of the last couple of years? There was a common denominator in all those clips and it was Houli. The sooner he is removed from our backline the better. HE ISNT A BACKMANS behindhole. He is a decent kick but surely his defending is an issue. He is often the lose man in our defense but only ever hurts the bottom sides. He panics and he is soft and hasn't got an aggressive bone in his body.

The Freo game was an obvious stuff up and possibly even the GC one but he was trying to protect the goal line (where the hell was the loose?!). Putting the blame on him for this recent one is a little stiff though. Can't recall the 4th one

[big tone]

so that puts cotchin in the same bag as houli?

Anther stupid question.
Unusual.