On a slightly positive note, we were missing many players with experience, some of whom are good. Rance, Vlas, Grimes, (Lambert), Yarran, (Drummond??), McIntosh, (Conca). Good or not so good, all would have been helpful. Too many young players who need more experience around them. Look at how long it has taken GWS and GC to get any good and they have needed a raft of experienced and good players to be with them to get anywhere. And GC lose by 20 goals. That being said, our recruiting remains in an abysmal state. Dumma said we did not execute his plan. But we didn't have the executioners. As everyone says, the following will never be great: Morris, Vickery (in la la land most of the time), astbury, b Ellis etc etc