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Stats show Tigers' tackling a major problem

AFL.com.au
10th May, 2016


NO RICHMOND player has recorded 10 tackles in a game since Dustin Martin laid that number against Greater Western Sydney in round 14, 2015.

Such an individual statistic would not stand out if the Tigers were winning, as tackling statistics can deceive – in 2014, Hawthorn won the flag with only two clubs in the competition averaging fewer tackles per game.

But after seven rounds in 2016, ladder leaders North Melbourne has had one player, Andrew Swallow, lay at least 10 tackles in a game five times and Ben Cunnington and Jack Ziebell do so once each.

Individuals can inspire with their tackling and set a tone of fanaticism that can be infectious, effort that coaches acknowledge.

Fifteen of the 44 players to have laid 10 tackles or more in a game in 2016 have earned at least one coaches' vote in the AFLCA award, one indication of how such games are valued.

By none of those 44 are Tigers, with Richmond one of only two clubs in the AFL without a player to have laid 10 tackles in at least one game since the start of the year.

The other team is the severely depleted Essendon, which had a 10-tackle a game player most recently with retired champion Paul Chapman in round 22, 2015.

The tackling frenzy Hawthorn midfield Liam Shiels embarked on against Richmond on Friday night, when he laid 16, emphasised the absence of such a pressure performance from one player among the Tigers line-up.

Midfielder Anthony Miles recorded the most tackles for the Tigers on the night with seven (the highest in a game in 2016 for Richmond is Jacob Townsend with eight) as the Hawks just shaded Richmond with two more tackles overall on the night.

Hawthorn laid 76 to Richmond's 74, the fifth time the Tigers have lost the tackle count this season.

Hawthorn has had six players lay 10 tackles or more in a game 13 times in the 33 games it has played since the start of 2015, way ahead of the Tigers' two.

Shiels has laid 10 or more tackles on six occasions in that time, with Paul Puopolo recording 12 tackles twice and Shaun Burgoyne, Will Langford, Sam Mitchell and Cyril Rioli also applying 10 tackles or more in a game at least once since the start of 2015.

North Melbourne has had a player lay 10 tackles in a game seven times this season, with Andrew Swallow doing so on five occasions.

Richmond is also equal last in the competition for tackles inside 50 at an average of 8.4, but given that it's equal 16th for forward 50 entries it has had little chance to apply pressure in that area of the game. 

Cyril Rioli evades a tackle from Richmond's Nick Vlastuin. Picture: AFL Media

Players who have applied 10 tackles in a game in 2016

Adelaide: Rory Sloane (10), Scott Thompson (10 twice), David Mackay (10)
Brisbane Lions: Pearce Hanley (12), Daniel Rich (11), Tom Rockliff (10), Dayne Zorko (10)
Carlton: Ed Curnow (13), Ed Curnow (10), Patrick Cripps (10)
Collingwood: Levi Greenwood (13), Adam Treloar (10)
Essendon: Nil
Fremantle: Michael Barlow (14), Matthew Pavlich (10), Brady Grey (10), Nat Fyfe (10)
Geelong: Mark Blicavs (12), Mark Blicavs(10)
Gold Coast: Tom Nicholls (10), Touk Miller (10)
Greater Western Sydney: Shane Mumford (10)
Hawthorn: Liam Shiels (16), Liam Shiels (12), Shaun Burgoyne (11), Will Langford (11), Cyril Rioli (10), Shaun Burgoyne (10)
Melbourne: James Harmes (10)
North Melbourne: Jack Ziebell (19), Andrew Swallow (14), Ben Cunnington (14), Andrew Swallow (11 three times), Andrew Swallow (10)
Port Adelaide: Ollie Wines (10)
Richmond: Nil
St Kilda: Jack Steven (11), Sam Gilbert (10)
Sydney Swans: Dan Hannebery (13), Josh Kennedy (13)
Western Bulldogs: Luke Dahlhaus (13)

Stats supplied by Champion Data

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-10/stats-show-richmond-tackling-a-major-problem

[Diocletian]

If there was a stat for missed tackles we'd be first by the length of Flemington straight.... still a disgrace after six seasons & seven rounds....fix this problem alone and we'd improve by at least 10%.....but not holding my breath considering it's an issue that hasn't been properly addressed since Northey left.....unlikely to change under the current arseclown....

[(•))(©™]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

[🏅Dooks]

Hang on a sec, i thought we got Farmer in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on a sec, I thought we got Hislop to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we got Arnott in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we Thomas in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we got Hunt in to address this? Oh, my mistake.

Hang on a sec, i thought we got Moore in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we got Townsend in to address this? Oh my mistake.

[Raoul Duke]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

On the money there Ox, you see it all the time with our players trying to corral instead of tackle.
But its not Hardwicks fault,its the players!

 

[Lozza]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

On the money there Ox, you see it all the time with our players trying to corral instead of tackle.
But its not Hardwicks fault,its the players!

 

This corral mode we are in suits our lazy players style. Put bluntly IT DOESN'T WORK!!!. Every game so far this season we have had situations where we out number the opposition but they still get through congestion. Thats because we hang back and allow the man with the ball too much time. Alternatively if we do go directly for the man we all go for the man with the ball which is just so dumb as he then disposes it to a teammate over the top. If the coaches cant see this then it proves once and for all the are clueless.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

When Hardwick became our coach I thought he'd be huge on tackling because as a player, he was a fierce tackler.


How wrong I was.....

[Tigeritis™©®]

Hang on a sec, i thought we got Farmer in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on a sec, I thought we got Hislop to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we got Arnott in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we Thomas in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we got Hunt in to address this? Oh, my mistake.

Hang on a sec, i thought we got Moore in to address this? Oh my mistake.

Hang on, i thought we got Townsend in to address this? Oh my mistake.

ListCloggingWouldbeTacklers - It's a program that the RFC will continue to persist with. 

[tony_montana]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

On the money there Ox, you see it all the time with our players trying to corral instead of tackle.
But its not Hardwicks fault,its the players!

 

spot on, corralling has also instilled lazy running, our players dont gut run, they just run their measure then point for the guy in his patch to take up the slack and so it goes down the chain until the oppopsition get it out the back and run into another open goal

[Gracie]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

On the money there Ox, you see it all the time with our players trying to corral instead of tackle.
But its not Hardwicks fault,its the players!

 

This corral mode we are in suits our lazy players style. Put bluntly IT DOESN'T WORK!!!. Every game so far this season we have had situations where we out number the opposition but they still get through congestion. Thats because we hang back and allow the man with the ball too much time. Alternatively if we do go directly for the man we all go for the man with the ball which is just so dumb as he then disposes it to a teammate over the top. If the coaches cant see this then it proves once and for all the are clueless.

Correct

Just look at the first 10 minutes of the third quarter of the game against West Coast where we came out and tackled multiple times. It stopped the run of West Coast but then we went back to the normal hands off game plan.

[Yeahright]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

On the money there Ox, you see it all the time with our players trying to corral instead of tackle.
But its not Hardwicks fault,its the players!

 

spot on, corralling has also instilled lazy running, our players dont gut run, they just run their measure then point for the guy in his patch to take up the slack and so it goes down the chain until the oppopsition get it out the back and run into another open goal

Some of our better players are the worst at this as well.

[tony_montana]

This has been the case for about 90% of Hardwick's tenure.

Will we blame assistants and recruiters for this also?

On the money there Ox, you see it all the time with our players trying to corral instead of tackle.
But its not Hardwicks fault,its the players!

 

spot on, corralling has also instilled lazy running, our players dont gut run, they just run their measure then point for the guy in his patch to take up the slack and so it goes down the chain until the oppopsition get it out the back and run into another open goal

Some of our better players are the worst at this as well.

absolutely

[lamington]

Yet Geelong only have Blicavs tackling +10/game and they're sitting pretty comfortable at 8th spot. And Freo have lots of high tackling players and they are stinking up the joint also.

Joel Selwood hasn't laid more than 10 tackles a game yet no one would ever label him soft. I think the key issue is we have have defenders who won't tackle and more crucially we don't have players who will wear a hit and take maximum time with ball and hand to make the correct decision so the result is usually a rushed handball resulting in a turnover.

[wayne]

Have a look at B. Ellis' limp wristed tackling effort in todays HUN paper. 

[eliminator]

Missed tackles constantly kill us. Look at the Port game as an example. Our lack of ability to tackle has been a problem throughout the reign of Hardwick. Good tackling creates pressure and perceived pressure and leads to turnovers. Other sides do it to us on a constant basis. Having Grigg in the Midfield does not help either.