2006 Potential Draftees thread

[mightytiges]

the challenge for Miller is to try and wrack up 5 or 6 picks inside 30 if he can.

Even if we have a shocker of a year and finish with only 4 wins, we don't have anyone who we can afford to let go in a trade that will be worth 2 first round picks in return like Ottens was. 

[bluey_21]

the challenge for Miller is to try and wrack up 5 or 6 picks inside 30 if he can.

Even if we have a shocker of a year and finish with only 4 wins, we don't have anyone who we can afford to let go in a trade that will be worth 2 first round picks in return like Ottens was. 

Although i wouldn't trade him, IMO Brown would be worth two first round picks probably even 3 if he can get back to his early 2005 form 

[Razorblade]

We could always trade Bowden, Brown, Richo and Johnson and take up a rebuilding project that would make Hawthorn green with envy, but its simply not going to happen!

[PuntRdRoar]

Lets say we get say 4 wins...I hope not but Ive guessed we will win between 4 and 8. If its the minimum 4 then we will get

pick 1 or 2
priority pick 17 or 18
2nd round selection pick 18 or 19
3rd round selection pick 34 or 35

so basically thats 4 picks inside 35.

Theres afew of players who I dont consider premiership type players who could get us picks between 10 and 30

6 in the top 30 to 35 players isnt unreasonable

[mightytiges]

That's possible to end up with 6 picks inside the top 35 but IMO most of those picks we be in the second round. It's getting extra first round picks that make a huge difference. RT, which Tigers do you think will attract a first round pick in return that we could afford to lose?

[Captain__Blood]

Lets say we get say 4 wins...I hope not but Ive guessed we will win between 4 and 8. If its the minimum 4 then we will get

pick 1 or 2
priority pick 17 or 18
2nd round selection pick 18 or 19
3rd round selection pick 34 or 35

so basically thats 4 picks inside 35.

Theres afew of players who I dont consider premiership type players who could get us picks between 10 and 30

6 in the top 30 to 35 players isnt unreasonable

Lets hope less than 4 wins it is for Richmond in 2006 

[Captain__Blood]

KPP
Mitchell Thorp
DOB - 25/12/88
Height -193cm
Weight - 81kg
State - Tas

Jack Riewoldt
DOB - 31/10/88
Height - 193cm
Weight - 82kg
State - Tas

Shaun Tapp
DOB - 06/06/88
Height - 194cm
Weight - 80kg
State - Qld

Lachlan Hansen
DOB - 17/08/88
Height - 195cm
Weight - 84kg
State - Vic

Eric Mackenzie
DOB - 19/05/88
Height - 193cm
Weight - 88kg
State - WA

Scott Gumbleton
DOB - 03/08/88
Height - 195cm
Weight - 87kg
State - WA

Jonathon Cheetham
DOB - 04/03/88
Height - 192cm
Weight - 83kg
State - SA

Ruckmen
Matthew Leuenberger
DOB - 07/06/88
Height - 201cm
Weight - 87kg
State - WA

Brent Renouf
DOB - 03/05/88
Height - 200cm
Weight - 86kg
State - Qld

Jesse White
DOB - 09/01/88
Height - 196cm
Weight - 96kg
State - Qld

Ed Wilson
DOB - 09/05/88
Height - 200cm
Weight - 89kg
State - NSW

Mids/flankers
Brock O'Brien
DOB - 30/05/88
Height - 180cm
Weight - 75kg
State - WA

Shawn Colbung
DOB - 23/05/88
Height - 177cm
Weight - 73kg
State - WA

Leroy Jetta
DOB - 06/07/88
Height - 176cm
Weight - 70kg
State - WA

Clayton Collard
DOB - 04/12/88
Height - 180cm
Weight - 76kg
State - WA

Clinton Benjamin
DOB - 27/07/88
Height - 187cm
Weight - 79kg
State - WA

Grae Grant
DOB - 14/03/88
Height - 184cm
Weight - 74kg
State - WA

Luke Licht
DOB - 04/01/88
Height - 180cm
Weight - 73kg
State - Tas

Sam Fielding
DOB - 30/09/88
Height - 179cm
Weight - 75kg
State - Tas

Daniel Farr
DOB - 24/04/88
Height - 175cm
Weight - 75kg
State - Qld

Ricky Petterd
DOB - 24/07/88
Height - 186cm
Weight - 80kg
State - Qld

Daniel Dzufer
DOB - 21/01/88
Height - 189cm
Weight - 80kg
State - Qld

Gavin Urquhart
DOB - 18/05/88
Height - 181cm
Weight - 80kg
State - Qld

Haydyn Kiel
DOB - 15/01/88
Height - 178cm
Weight - 76kg
State - Qld

Bryce Gibbs
DOB -
Height -
Weight -
State - SA

James Sellar
DOB -
Height -
Weight -
State - SA

Joel Selwood
DOB - 26/05/88
Height - 181cm
Weight - 73kg
State - Vic

Shaun Grigg
DOB - 19/04/88
Height - 187cm
Weight - 77kg
State - Vic

Robert Eddy
DOB - 07/01/88
Height - 182cm
Weight - 82kg
State - Vic

Bachar Houli
DOB - 12/05/88
Height - 179cm
Weight - 83kg
State - Vic

Ryan Anderson
DOB - 18/04/88
Height - 174cm
Weight - 68kg
State - Vic


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Apparently at this stage:

Mitchell Thorp, Lachlan Hansen, Scott Gumbleton, Leroy Jetta, Bryce Gibbs, Bachar Houli are quailty, very much top shelf.

I want Lachlan Hansen, badly.

[Captain__Blood]

That's possible to end up with 6 picks inside the top 35 but IMO most of those picks we be in the second round. It's getting extra first round picks that make a huge difference. RT, which Tigers do you think will attract a first round pick in return that we could afford to lose?

Apparently 2nd round pick next year will be like 10 picks in normal drafts.

Outside Deledio I wouldn't be unhappy trading anyone for high picks in a very strong draft pool.

Brown, Johnson, Bowden, Tuck, Coughlan, Newman are who I think are worth most.

The next teir in Hyde, Rodan, Krakouer, Hall, Pettifer, Schultz a bit less.

[Captain__Blood]

Nicked player reviews

1) Lachlan Hansen.

Key Position player. CHB/CHF.

KPP in the TAC for Gipppsland Power. 195cms and a very good mover. Played CHF and moved back to CHB for the 2nd half of last year. Dominated hios opponents and marked everything that came his way. Skinny still but wont shirk the issue. Freak at his age and size. Best mark I have ever seen for his age. Superb judge of it and first class attack on everything in the air. Rarely outbodied even though he is still skinny. Beat stronger opponents in the TAC with superior body positioning and judgement.
Sometimes funny watching him anticipate the kick into the forward line quicker than his opponent when playing as a defender. Would be off and running before his opponent had even moved and take an easy uncontested mark.
Was the “wall” when playing at CHB.

Will likely play forward in 2006 and see how he develops. Shown enough to suggest he can play both ends and become a dominant KPP capable of playing anywhere in the 4 key posts if required.
As he fills out will likely change his style a little and use his body more and more rather than standing off his opponent a few meters and using superior anticipation and leap and body positioning to beat the opponent.
That is not to say he is an outside player at all. He just understand his game and realises that there is no point to getting into a wrestling match against some players who are much heavier and stronger than he was in 2005. Sort of like Dustin Fletchers style. Who does not do well in wrestling contests and gets slaughtered against bigger stonger opponents when caught out in that way (Sav Rocca and J Brown come to mind who seem to beat him to the point where Sheedy wont play him on them now). The difference is that Hansen is 16 and will be filling out and wont have to play that way in a few years.
Better than Nick Riewoldt at the same age.

Weaknesses : Strange first name unless you are a media mogul.

2) Bryce Gibbs

Flanker/midfielder type.

Has some athletic ability but more as a natural footballer. Quick over the ground. Good build and superb kicking skills and ability to read the play and find space. Playing senior football in the SANFL for Glenelg.

HF flanker and midfielder who will kick goals and play all over the ground. Better in 1 on 1 contests and in open spaces rather than in congestion in packs. Such a smooth mover he appears to not be quick but is football quick with anticipation. Does everything so easily that appears to not be at 100%. The “Mark Waugh” of next years draft.
Absolute lock in cant miss selection for anyone who nabs him. Not sure he will become a bona fide pure midfielder but as a creative player who will kick goals and cut teams apart if given space and time.
Been tagged in the SANFL and shown himself to be mentally and physically up to that challenge. Niggling tactics don’t seem to bother him and regardless of the game situation will run and create an option.
Would like to see more tackling from him and a little bit more urgency at times.

Cant really find fault overall with him. For his age he has a complete game. 187cms and of course still growing and might pinch hit as a KPP when finished.
Has some football arrogance and just what you need to become a gun player in the AFL. Very coachable and works hard at his game and understands his talent already just plays with the necessary arrogance with how he is prepared to attempt the difficult kick or take on a player. Does not play safe but challenges his skills.


Weaknesses : Strange first name unless you are a best selling author.

3) Scott Gumbleton.

CHF

KPP out of WA (Peel Thunder). Strong at the contest and possesses fine skills and has size and is versatile. Showed his talent at the U18s Champs where he was as good as any big man on the ground even though he was a year younger than most of them. Plays at CHF mostly and is a beautiful kick of the ball and has the hands of a gun forward. Very mobile and covers a lot of ground. 195cms and is a natural forward. Good enough to keep Josh Kennedy out of the Key forward position for WA in the recent U18 Championships.
Capabale of taking contested marks and is a corridor player who demands the ball and has presence on the ground. Already huge size at 6 foot 5 and not skinny either. Athletic rather than bulky he will not have a problem with his body type in the future (getting to bulky) when he add more kgs and fills out.
Has very good agility and covers a lot of ground but does his best work in contested situations rather than taking easy marks out wide.
Could see him developing into a key back also over time if needed.

Would liken him to Josh Kennedy only more athletic and an even better mark. Same work rate, physicality and competitiveness and around the same size even though he is 1 year younger.

If available in this years draft all 3 of these players would have been selected in front of Marc Murphy.

They are my top 3 from the 2006 draft at this stage.

Will not be ranking the future players. Just writing a few brief notes on them and putting them up to give a guide who to look out for at this early stage

Leroy Jetta

Midfielder/Forward.

Small aboriginal player from WA. Plays for South Fremantle and stands at 176cms tall. 70 kgs and is pretty tiny at the moment. Played in the U18s Carnival for WA and showed himself to be up to the standard.
To say he is quick is an understatement. He is freakishly quick and has some of the best footwork I have ever seen to run around players and make them miss. Makes players look like they are nailed to the ground when he baulks them.
Razzle dazzle player who is a bit of a show off. Tends to go for impossible goals rather than pass the ball off.
What he does do is take players and break the game open. Very good kick on either side of the body but at his pace he rarely has to kick on the non dominant side.

Very good goal sense and suited to playing in the forward line and getting possessions forward of the centre and making them count.
Hopefully he grows a few more cms and learns to round his game off with some more 1%ers rather than just the headlight reel.

Just the type we need at Carlton with his pace and skills and X Factor.
The height and size are the concerns. Even though he can be a bit selfish at times it is most likely just trying to impress at the Carnival and also in the WAFL under coaches instructions as from all reports he is a very modest and humble player off the field. Shocking blond tips or not.

Approximately in the 8 to 12 range for next years draft at this stage.

Clinton Benjamin

Forward

Huge disappointment in the U18s Carnival last year. Enormous wraps on him but was overall poor.
187cms and 79kgs from Claremont in WA. The fact he was picked for the WA team a year before being eligible for the draft shows what the selectors thought of him.
Blindingly quick on a long lead he has pace to burn. Ran a 10.5 100m at his school (not sure about the quality of the timing device) and he has some of the quickest first few steps you can imagine. Hits top speed and can hold it when the defender is unable to.
Big leap and to see him get on a lead and take off for the ball is an awesome sight.

Good endurance and not just a sprinter. Struggled with the grounds for the Championships. Dew on them at times and his footing was unsure and never seemed to settle. More of an athlet rather than a footballer at this stage. Would be a bit like Sean Rusling from Collingwood drafted a year ago. Pacy smallish full forward with a big leap.

Would think Benjamin is that type of player but have seen him play down back and do well on bigger opponents and show himself to have all the skills.
Really could develop into anything with more experience. Will need to realise he will be a marked man and work harder on his game and to keep himself involved more. Not just be a mark and kick player.
Mitch Clark was unable to and slipped from a certainity for pick 1 at this time last year all the way to 9 with his lack of work rate and development.

10 to 20 range at this stage.

Gavin Urquhart

Midfielder

From QLD and the Morningside Club. Very very hard and physical player. Got a case of the ‘white line fevers’. Prone to losing the plot a little and can be niggled and lose concentration.
Will put his head over the ball and enjoys contested situations where he performs at his best. Still capable of running with the bell and linking up. Can turn the ball over in pressure situations a little too much but given time and space is a very good kick. Plenty of distance and penetration.
Good size already at 181 and 80kgs and is physically developed. Used this to advantage in the U18 Championships last year. Not sure there is a hell of a lot of physical improvement in him left but do like what I see.
Gets the ball, runs to dangerous positions and uses it. Hard and tough and can clear the ball from congestion. Effective rather than classy but can play all over the ground.
Not overly quick but has enough pace for it not to be a concern

Not classy but hard and effective. Goodish skills and can play. Very good tank and runs all day.

Projected : 15 to 30.

Albert Proud

Midfielder

Another midfielder from QLD. Very impressive at the U18 Champs and was All Australian there. Great skills and cut teams up given space. Not overly tall at just under 180 but still time to grow. More skilful and quicker than Urquhart and not as well developed physically. More room for improvement in him and more flair and excitement.
Very quick and elusive and has great footwork and the ability to run around players. Links up well and carries the ball. Prepared to back himself and break games open with some searing runs.
The type we need with his pace and skills. If he puts on a few cms will move right up in calculations.

Projected : 10 to 15.

Joel Selwood

Midfielder

Brother of Adam and Troy.
Better than both of them. Much better skills by hand and foot. Slightly quicker but still not what you would call fast.
The best clearance player available in the 2006 draft. Best contested ball winner and the player who if you threw the ball to and had him contest against any other midfielder for next years draft you would back to get it back to you. Uses his body so well and has an uncanny knack of getting his arms free and dishing the ball out before some players have managed to pin him.
Very physically tough and hard player who directs his aggression at the ball and has a superb temprement for AFL.
Makes up for a slight lack in pace with anticipation and his reading of the play. Yet to see him fumble the ball and great hands.
Kicking needs improvement but is not a problem just not penetrative enough yet and lacks real polish. He prefers to handball and feed runners but opponents will sag off him in the AFL if he does not improve his kicking and not make it easy for him to feed more skilful players. (for example Daniel Cross from WB)
Leadership, composed and very professional.
A cant miss selection.

Projected : 5 to 10.

[PuntRdRoar]

Great effort. James Sellar is a huge talent. Top 5 or 6 at this stage. For mine at the moment if nat draft was on tomorrow i reckon it would go

1.Gibbs
2. Selwood
3. Gumbleton
4. Sellar
5. Thorp
6. Hansen

[bluey_21]

Great effort. James Sellar is a huge talent. Top 5 or 6 at this stage. For mine at the moment if nat draft was on tomorrow i reckon it would go

1.Gibbs
2. Selwood
3. Gumbleton
4. Sellar
5. Thorp
6. Hansen

Unless someone with pick 2 really wanted Selwood, i doubt he will go top 2. At this stage he'd be a top ten IMO

[bluey_21]

Shaun Grigg
DOB - 19/04/88
Height - 187cm
Weight - 77kg
State - Vic

We should have drafted Grigg's this year, Weaver rightfully said in his mock draft that with Grigg, it is take him late in the 05 draft or take him early in the 06 draft. Grigg would have been a steal late in the draft or rookie draft last year

[Captain__Blood]

Shaun Grigg
DOB - 19/04/88
Height - 187cm
Weight - 77kg
State - Vic

We should have drafted Grigg's this year, Weaver rightfully said in his mock draft that with Grigg, it is take him late in the 05 draft or take him early in the 06 draft. Grigg would have been a steal late in the draft or rookie draft last year

If a bottom age player misses the national draft I don't tihnk he can be rookied?

Wouldn't it have been nice to not given away our 4th round pick and got Grigg's there?

[Limbach_19]

Shaun Grigg
DOB - 19/04/88
Height - 187cm
Weight - 77kg
State - Vic

We should have drafted Grigg's this year, Weaver rightfully said in his mock draft that with Grigg, it is take him late in the 05 draft or take him early in the 06 draft. Grigg would have been a steal late in the draft or rookie draft last year

If a bottom age player misses the national draft I don't tihnk he can be rookied?

Wouldn't it have been nice to not given away our 4th round pick and got Grigg's there?

we had a 5th round pick and didnt use it, so we wouldnt have used a 4th round pick if we had it, unless Thornton was still there.

[mightytiges]

we had a 5th round pick and didnt use it, so we wouldnt have used a 4th round pick if we had it, unless Thornton was still there.

That's right L19. Sydney got Thorton anyway before either pick #56 which we traded to the Dogs or pick #67 so we passed and then picked up White in the PSD.