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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #135 on: November 22, 2016, 05:53:35 PM »
So only two players & the Short upgrade?

3 + short

2 in the main + Short and leave room for a PSD pick if we want it?

4 + Short now....
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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #136 on: November 23, 2016, 03:22:10 AM »
Gary Buckenara’s top 50 players for the AFL draft 2016: Part two, 25-1

GARY BUCKENARA,
Herald Sun
November 23, 2016


IN A very deep — and very even — draft, some clubs will rate certain players a lot higher than others.

That makes the order hard to predict, but recruiter Gary Buckenara has listed his top 50 prospects. Who will your club choose?

See who he ranked 26-50 here — and scroll down to find out his top 25 draft talents including who he would take with the coveted No.1 selection.

GARY BUCKNARA’S DRAFT TOP 50 PART TWO: 25-1


25. ALEX VILLIS

Defender, 182cm, 70kg, Norwood/South Australia

Buckenara says: Villis’s strengths are that he’s a good decision-maker, can win his own footy and is a beautiful kick. He’ll need to put on a bit of size to use his in-and-under capabilities at AFL level but he’s a very smart player who is aware of what’s around him on the footy field.

24. ZAC FISHER

Small forward/midfielder, 175cm, 61kg, Perth/Guilford Grammar

Buckenara says: From Perth, Fisher is another small forward who has great footy awareness and is clever like most small forwards are. He has a really light body and the club that picks him up will need to be patient and put the development into him that he needs. He has pace, is athletic and smart, but just needs the body to be able to compete at AFL level. He’s got some tricks.

23. SHAI BOLTON


Half forward, 177cm, 67kg, South Fremantle/Forrestdale

Buckenara says: Bolton definitely has the traits AFL clubs are looking for in a small forward. He’s dangerous around goals, is quick and has x-factor. He can take a big mark but is only a light frame so will need to spend some time in the gym and also needs to get a bit fitter. He’s a really nice player.

22. KYM LeBOIS


Small forward, 175cm, 66kg, North Adelaide/Koonibba

Buckenara says: LeBois is a left-footer with tremendous goal sense, so he’ll be that small forward that quite a few clubs are on the lookout for. He has a combination of speed and endurance, has good vision but because he’s only a light frame he tends to get pushed off the ball a little bit, so he’ll need to work on his body strength.

21. OLIVER FLORENT

Midfielder/half forward, 183cm, 74kg, Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris/Mentone GS

Buckenara says: Another midfielder/forward, Florent has been in a good system at the Dragons. He has footy smarts, has great agility but probably just needs to be a little bit harder at the contest on some occasions. I still think there’s enough there to like about him to be a relatively early selection.

20. JORDAN RIDLEY


Defender, 192cm, 79kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Knox

Buckenara says: Ridley will be of interest to clubs because he’s a flexible prospect. At 192cm he can play in a number of positions whether it be down back, up forward or in the midfield, but probably plays his best footy as a defender. He’s a hard worker.

19. DANIEL VENABLES


Midfielder/half forward, 186cm, 81kg, Western Jets/PEGS/Keilor

Buckenara says: A mid-sized midfielder from the Western Jets, Venables had a lot of school commitments this year but was All-Australian as a midfielder in the carnival. He competes really well and is very good in congested situations.

18. JY SIMPKIN

Half forward/midfielder, 181cm, 71kg, Murray Bushrangers/Mooroopna

Buckenara says: Simpkin is a playmaker. He’s a midfielder who makes smart decisions and is classy and clever. He’s not an overly high possession-winner but when he does get it he’s creative. He’s one of those guys who, when he gets possession of the ball, you know something good is going to happen for the team. He’ll be of interest to a lot of clubs.

17. JOSH ROTHAM


Defender, 192cm, 79kg, West Perth/Whitfords

Buckenara says: A tall defender from WA, Rotham will turn 19 early next year and will come into the system as a potential third tall defender. He also has the athleticism to be a tall midfielder or tall winger because he does run quite well.

16. JARROD BERRY


Midfielder/half-back, 191cm, 80kg, North Ballarat Rebels/Horsham Saints

Buckenara says: At 191cm Berry is a very good ball winner and a smart player who makes good decisions. He does have his own kicking style but it is quite effective — he doesn’t miss too many targets and it’s penetrating. Berry has had some injury concerns, which limited his year a little bit but is a very hard-at-it player who can also be damaging on the outside. There is a lot to like about him.

15. GRIFFIN LOGUE


Tall defender, 193cm, 92kg, Swan Districts/Guildford Grammar

Buckenara says: A WA boy, Logue is a really nice size as a bid-bodied potential key-position player. He tested really well at the draft combine — he impressed a lot with what he did so I think he came up the pecking order a bit. Logue has shown he can hold his own in one-on-ones and is a long-kicking left-footer. He’ll be in the mix to be a top-20 pick for sure.

14. ISAAC CUMMING


Defender, 183cm, 72kg, Broken Hill/GWS Academy

Buckenara says: Cumming can play on a wing, across half-back and even half-forward — he’s a bit on an all-rounder type of player. He plays outside and is a really smooth mover with a good kick. He is available to GWS as part of its academy despite playing footy with North Adelaide in the under-18s.

13. KOBE MUTCH

Midfielder, 184cm, 79kg, Gol Gol/Bendigo Pioneers/GWS Academy

Buckenara says: A mid-sized midfielder, Much wins his own ball. He has a good work rate but probably needs to work a bit more on his repeat efforts despite the fact he knows how to find the footy and win it. He’s also got good skills, so he’s one of those elite kicking type players who are very important. He’ll be high on club radars.

12. HARRY PERRYMAN


Half-back/forward, 184cm, 75kg, Collingullie/GWS Academy

Buckenara says: Perryman reads the play really well and can play back and forward. He’s good overhead, skilful and is a very competitive type. He’s a member of GWS’s Academy and I think clubs will be very keen to make the Giants pay a decent price for him.


11. JORDAN GALLUCI

Midfielder, 183cm, 75kg, Eastern Ranges/Yarra Valley GS/Lilydale

Buckenara says: Another midfielder, Galluci is a polished player who has good pace and is very athletic. He probably does need to tidy up his disposal a little bit but he has all the traits of becoming a very good midfielder because of his athleticism and speed. Recruiters like his dash.

10. TIM TARANTO


Midfielder, 186cm, 82kg, Sandringham Dragons/Parkdale/St Kevin’s

Buckenara says: Taranto has good skills, makes good decisions and should be one of this year’s top prospects. The only query on him might be his pace, but he’s definitely a very nice player and will go in the first round.

9. JACK SCRIMSHAW


Defender/midfielder, 194cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris/Haileybury

Buckenara says: Another tall defender who can go into the midfield, Scrimshaw makes good decisions with the ball and I believe he’ll go in the top 10. He has had a few little injury issues but I don’t think that’s any concern moving forward. He’ll be highly sought-after because he can also go forward, has a really good pair of hands and can do the uncanny things every now and then. He’s a real talent and has a bit of x-factor.


8. TIM ENGLISH

Ruckman, 203cm, 86kg, South Fremantle/Brookton-Pingelly

Buckenara says: English is the best young ruckman in the draft and because ruckmen are few and far between in this year’s group, a club needing a developing ruckman will pounce. He does still have big of weight to put on, so he’s a bit of a project, but he certainly has some real ability in terms of his athleticism and footy nous around the ground. I doubt he will get past Fremantle’s first pick at No.7. Taking him to be the heir apparent to Aaron Sandilands would be a very smart move.

7. WILL BRODIE

Midfielder, 189cm, 82kg, Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton

Buckenara says: A big-bodied inside midfielder, Brodie is really clean with his ball-handling and will definitely attract early interest in the draft. I think there’s a lot of upside to him but he has already shown he can perform under pressure in the finals of the TAC Cup, which really saw him rise up the draft order.

6. JACK BOWES


Midfielder, 187cm, 78kg, Cairns/Gold Coast Academy

Buckenara says: Bowes is a member of Gold Coast’s Academy and I won’t be surprised if Brisbane keep the Suns honest by placing a bid on him early, which will force them to pay a high price to secure him. He’s a good decision-maker, beautiful kick and his awareness around the ground is second to none — he knows what’s going on and because of that has very good vision. Can be a bit one-paced so will need to try and improve his speed off the mark. Is in the Sam Mitchell and Matt Priddis mould but a taller version.

5. WILL SETTERFIELD


Midfielder, 190cm, 80kg, Sandringham Dragons/Albury/GWS Academy

Buckenara says: A member of the GWS Academy, I have no doubt a bid will come in early for Setterfield. He’s a good size for a midfield type player and has already shown he’s going to be a really good player. He can play in a number of positions, whether it’s as a big-bodied midfielder, high half-forward or rebound defender, and will only get better in a full-time environment.

4. SAM PETREVSKI-SETON

Midfielder/half forward, 181cm, 76kg, Claremont/Halls Creek

Buckenara says: Petrevski-Seton has been an AFL player-in-waiting for quite some time. He’s played very well at under-16s and under-18s and played league footy for Claremont in Western Australia. He’ll come into the AFL system ready to go and be pushing very quickly for a senior game. He offers a lot of upside, has an interesting background in terms of where he’s come from and his journey to being draft hopeful. He’s got the dedication it takes to make it in the AFL. A club won’t go wrong by picking him.


3. BEN AINSWORTH

Midfielder, 179cm, 74kg, Gippsland Power/Morwell

Buckenara says: A small forward/midfielder, Ainsworth is a clever player who makes good decisions with the ball. I like the way he goes about his work — he has genuine upside and I think there would be a lot of clubs looking for a player exactly like him. He’s classy and a professional in all he does. Will be a very good pick-up.

2. ANDREW McGRATH

Defender, 179cm, 75kg, Sandringham Dragons/East Brighton/Brighton

Buckenara says: A ready-made running defender who can also play in the midfield, McGrath’s improvement could be quite dramatic once he gets into the AFL system. He makes very good decisions with the footy, has good skills and is just one of those players who is very reliable. When you’re looking for rebound defenders you’re looking for guys who can break the lines and McGrath is exactly that type of player. I think he’ll adjust to the tempo of AFL quickly.

1. HUGH McCLUGGAGE


Midfielder, 185cm, 75kg, North Ballarat Rebels/South Warrnambool

Buckenara says: McCluggage is a beautiful size, good mover and a good decision-maker. He wins his own footy but he’s also very good on the outside because he’s well balanced and doesn’t waste too many possessions — that’s the most impressive part about his game, he’s very clean. McCluggage is a level-headed young man who will be around AFL circles for a very long time. Essendon will be tossing up who to take, but I just couldn’t go past him. Will be a star.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gary-buckenaras-top-50-players-for-the-afl-draft-2016-part-two-251/news-story/96281ed6c2eb0e63b302990e626098a8

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #138 on: November 24, 2016, 01:55:38 PM »
Apparently we're looking at Stewart who strikes me as another Batchelor or Broad...

Would rather take Darcy Cameron  or Shane Nelson than any of these...maybe if we had more picks in the rookie draft to play with I'd look at Fox, Goodwin, McInerney & Keilty
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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #139 on: November 24, 2016, 02:01:57 PM »
Would look at Cameron as a rookie but pass on Nelson.

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #140 on: November 24, 2016, 02:13:36 PM »
Nelson at the least is better than Lambert & Marcon.

I'd even take Cameron with our last live national draft pick....has the abilty & work ethic to be the genuine ruck/forward we all wanted Vickery to be...


....and in other news GWS have just been charged with "conduct unbecoming" but won't be penalised in this year's draft at least...
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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #141 on: November 24, 2016, 02:41:18 PM »
I hear you but i would take Lambert over Nelson all day every day.

Cameron is mainly a forward and only assists in the ruck as required. He is worth a rookie spot however.....

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #142 on: November 24, 2016, 06:45:29 PM »

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #143 on: November 24, 2016, 10:18:28 PM »
Might have still given a sh(7 if we still had pick 6.  :sleep

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #144 on: November 25, 2016, 07:19:57 PM »
Draft has started.

1. Essendon   Andrew McGrath
2. GWS          Tim Taranto
3. Brisbane    Hugh McCluggage
4. Gold Coast  Ben Ainsworth
5. GWS           Will Setterfield


And our former pick 6 is ...

6. Carlton      Sam Petrevski-Seton

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #145 on: November 25, 2016, 07:26:11 PM »
7. Gold Coast     Jack Scrimshaw

8. Freo               Griffin Logue 

That's the first difference to Callum Twomey's phanton draft.

9. Gold Coast    Will Brodie

The phanton draft had Freo and Gold Coast the other way around.


10. Gold Coast    Jack Bowes


That's the top 10. All ten were in Twomey's phanton top 10.

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #146 on: November 25, 2016, 07:30:18 PM »
Waiting, waiting, waiting ....


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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #147 on: November 25, 2016, 07:32:19 PM »
The first surprise from the Swans ...

11. Sydney      Oliver Florent


12. North Melb    Jy Simpkin

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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #148 on: November 25, 2016, 07:34:09 PM »
Waiting, waiting, waiting ....


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Re: 2016 Draft thread
« Reply #149 on: November 25, 2016, 07:35:53 PM »
Another surprise from the Eagles.

13. West Coast   Daniel Venables

Adelaide are bidding on Giants academy player Harry Perryman. GWS are matching the bid.

14. GWS          Harry Perryman

15. Adelaide     Jordan Gallucci


Our first pick is down to 29.