Review close to being revealed to supporters with 'implementation plan': O'Neal

[big tone]

I would think it doesnt matter what they release peope will still complain

Don't give out any detail, they are hiding behind it

Give us a summary of the main points, they are hiding stuff

Release the entire report and they are still hifpding things or EY are clueless they are accountants

Damned if you Damned if you don't

Get off your high horse WP.
It is ok to question the club that has been putrid for 35 years.
Also doing a review through a company that one of the board members is a part of stinks before it even starts. Surely there is other companies out there that could of handled this review and people like myself wouldn't have their suspicions of a truely uncompromised review.
There is always something NQR with everything this club does.
Sacks guys, then offer them jobs.
Sack other guys but give them part time jobs.
NFI!
But you sit up there on the fence that you usually sit on and tell us all how we should behave.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-12/football-department-structure-changes

Some review stuff in there

From The Age

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-hire-neil-balme-as-general-manager-of-football-20160912-greeep.html

"The board's choice of Neil and their plans for him are a carbon copy of our Focus on Footy plan. They may not be talking to us, but that certainly listening!" Hiscock said.
I wonder what Hisballs thought?,

[WilliamPowell]

Get off your high horse WP.
It is ok to question the club that has been putrid for 35 years.
Also doing a review through a company that one of the board members is a part of stinks before it even starts. Surely there is other companies out there that could of handled this review and people like myself wouldn't have their suspicions of a truely uncompromised review.
There is always something NQR with everything this club does.
Sacks guys, then offer them jobs.
Sack other guys but give them part time jobs.
NFI!
But you sit up there on the fence that you usually sit on and tell us all how we should behave.

High horse?

Give me a break,  just giving an opinion which BTW  you and number others going by the collective responses qctually highlights the points i made to reasonable. So thanks for that 

As for your narrow minded view about EY doing the review, clearly you have no idea how the big 5 accouting firms operate. Multiply departments within a massive organisation. The board member you refer to works in auditing while the review was undertaken by a completely different area. There is no conflict here

From the press release (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-12/football-department-structure-changes

"As part of this review, independent external consultant Craig Mitchell, from Ernst & Young’s Sports Advisory Practice, was engaged to assist with the process.

Craig has conducted a range of performance evaluation projects for, and on behalf of, a number of elite sporting organisations, including the AFL Research Board, AFL clubs, Cricket Australia, Australian Sports Commission Swimming Australia and Sport "

Reckon the bloke knows what he is doing seeing the list of organisations hes done work for are some of the biggest in the country

So if keeping an open mind on this review and applauding usong EY is fence sitting then I'll wear that

[one-eyed]

The 10-week review - conducted in part by Ernst & Young consultant Craig Mitchell - followed a disastrous season for the Tigers in which they fell from their third straight finals appearance to win just eight games.

But Gale defended the lengthy process.

"It would have been irresponsible to have outside noise dictate how long this process took," Gale said. "Some will agree with the change, some won't, but I can guarantee our members and supporters this change has been carefully considered and is well informed.

"Our fans are angry with what we produced in season 2016 – and they have every right to be. It did not meet our expectations and it demanded we identify what went wrong and how to address these shortcomings.

"Ultimately, this review has identified the need to get the right people in the right roles and to give them the clarity and structure that will allow them to focus on building a culture of success."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-hire-neil-balme-as-general-manager-of-football-20160912-greeep.html

[Hes My Hero]

From The Age

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-hire-neil-balme-as-general-manager-of-football-20160912-greeep.html

"The board's choice of Neil and their plans for him are a carbon copy of our Focus on Footy plan. They may not be talking to us, but that certainly listening!" Hiscock said.
I wonder what Hisballs thought?,

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Yep.... Im sure the only reason the RFC appointed Balmy was becuse FOF suggested it first, so Benny thought "GEE whiz guys, that's a good idea !! Let's get it done

Pffft !
Give me a break, the wheels were already in motion when the ummm challengers stepped up to the plate with the ludicrous idea of bringing someone in to appease and rectify that they hadn't ( so explained in the media) spoken to as yet.

NB: commenting on article not post.

[one-eyed]

Hiscock also called on more information to be released, and claims that the Richmond board isn’t giving fans full disclosure.

“It is interesting to note that the Club made a number of decisions about the personnel and structure of its football department before the EY review was completed.

“The Focus on Footy team is calling on the Board to release the full report of the review, including its Terms of Reference.”

“We are concerned the Board is hiding behind the report and has been making decisions on the run,” Hiscock said.

Richmond finished the season losing four of their last five games, placing them 13th on the table after finishing in 5th in 2015.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/09/12/rebel-richmond-group-approve-balme-appointment/

[Hes My Hero]

Hiscock also called on more information to be released, and claims that the Richmond board isn’t giving fans full disclosure.

“It is interesting to note that the Club made a number of decisions about the personnel and structure of its football department before the EY review was completed.

“The Focus on Footy team is calling on the Board to release the full report of the review, including its Terms of Reference.”

“We are concerned the Board is hiding behind the report and has been making decisions on the run,” Hiscock said.

Richmond finished the season losing four of their last five games, placing them 13th on the table after finishing in 5th in 2015.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/09/12/rebel-richmond-group-approve-balme-appointment/

Surely within this report there would be sensitive I.P that we would prefer is not released into the public domain, specifically that information which could compromise our ability to rectify.
17 other clubs would quickly become aware of the finer points and use this to there advantage, whether they need to or not.

Some things should be known by all and all things should be known by some.
(Wow i just made that up, feel free to use)

[tony_montana]

Hiscock also called on more information to be released, and claims that the Richmond board isn’t giving fans full disclosure.

“It is interesting to note that the Club made a number of decisions about the personnel and structure of its football department before the EY review was completed.

“The Focus on Footy team is calling on the Board to release the full report of the review, including its Terms of Reference.”

“We are concerned the Board is hiding behind the report and has been making decisions on the run,” Hiscock said.

Richmond finished the season losing four of their last five games, placing them 13th on the table after finishing in 5th in 2015.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/09/12/rebel-richmond-group-approve-balme-appointment/

Surely within this report there would be sensitive I.P that we would prefer is not released into the public domain, specifically that information which could compromise our ability to rectify.
17 other clubs would quickly become aware of the finer points and use this to there advantage, whether they need to or not.

Some things should be known by all and all things should be known by some.
(Wow i just made that up, feel free to use)

beat me to the punch - absolutely agree. Yes we'd all love to know categorically what they are doing and whether there is true process nvolved here, but its ridiculous to expect that to become publicly available which our competition would use to their advantage - (like they dont already have a big enough one)

[Francois Jackson]

they must think hackson his done a reasonable job to keep him on as p/t??? NFI

This to me highlights what is wrong with the club. They have no guts to finish the old bastard off. That goes with the other dud assistants they have offered one year deals with.

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

they must think hackson his done a reasonable job to keep him on as p/t??? NFI

This to me highlights what is wrong with the club. They have no guts to finish the old bastard off. That goes with the other dud assistants they have offered one year deals with.

Doubt there is anything the club could do today to appease some fans - I think its a fine move. Despite what you think, I know professional scouts personally and even the most underdone, least professional talent scout has a breadth of knowledge that is always going to be of some value. He's not calling the shots anymore - that's more than enough for mine!

Question regarding his replacement Matthew Clarke. Anyone know anything about him?
 

[taztiger4]

they must think hackson his done a reasonable job to keep him on as p/t??? NFI

This to me highlights what is wrong with the club. They have no guts to finish the old bastard off. That goes with the other dud assistants they have offered one year deals with.

Doubt there is anything the club could do today to appease some fans - I think its a fine move. Despite what you think, I know professional scouts personally and even the most underdone, least professional talent scout has a breadth of knowledge that is always going to be of some value. He's not calling the shots anymore - that's more than enough for mine!

Question regarding his replacement Matthew Clarke. Anyone know anything about him?

Ripping bloke, been on our recruiting team for 7 or 8 years I guess, was previously @ Melbourne.

[big tone]

Get off your high horse WP.
It is ok to question the club that has been putrid for 35 years.
Also doing a review through a company that one of the board members is a part of stinks before it even starts. Surely there is other companies out there that could of handled this review and people like myself wouldn't have their suspicions of a truely uncompromised review.
There is always something NQR with everything this club does.
Sacks guys, then offer them jobs.
Sack other guys but give them part time jobs.
NFI!
But you sit up there on the fence that you usually sit on and tell us all how we should behave.

High horse?

Give me a break,  just giving an opinion which BTW  you and number others going by the collective responses qctually highlights the points i made to reasonable. So thanks for that 

As for your narrow minded view about EY doing the review, clearly you have no idea how the big 5 accouting firms operate. Multiply departments within a massive organisation. The board member you refer to works in auditing while the review was undertaken by a completely different area. There is no conflict here

From the press release (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-12/football-department-structure-changes

"As part of this review, independent external consultant Craig Mitchell, from Ernst & Young’s Sports Advisory Practice, was engaged to assist with the process.

Craig has conducted a range of performance evaluation projects for, and on behalf of, a number of elite sporting organisations, including the AFL Research Board, AFL clubs, Cricket Australia, Australian Sports Commission Swimming Australia and Sport "

Reckon the bloke knows what he is doing seeing the list of organisations hes done work for are some of the biggest in the country

So if keeping an open mind on this review and applauding usong EY is fence sitting then I'll wear that

Please don't bore us anymore with your accounting stuff. We all understand you are an accountant but seriously!! We all got the point after the 3rd time you explained what info the club have to give the public. Give US a break.

High horse- yes.
I'm not sure if it's just the way you word things but you sound like a know it all. What you wrote in your initial post was arrogant and is insulting to people that haven't been happy with this club for a long time. Is it not ok to be skeptical with the clubs decisions considering our last 35 years?? I find that if you think it's ok to question decisions it's ok but if others question things you might not agree with its complaining.
High horse- most definitely.

Now I'm sure you will say I'm attacking you or I'm calling you names like normal but I'm not. Hopefully you see it as two adults discussing a difference of opinion.
 

[Chuck17]

 

[Tigeritis™©®]

they must think hackson his done a reasonable job to keep him on as p/t??? NFI

This to me highlights what is wrong with the club. They have no guts to finish the old bastard off. That goes with the other dud assistants they have offered one year deals with.

Doubt there is anything the club could do today to appease some fans - I think its a fine move. Despite what you think, I know professional scouts personally and even the most underdone, least professional talent scout has a breadth of knowledge that is always going to be of some value. He's not calling the shots anymore - that's more than enough for mine!

Question regarding his replacement Matthew Clarke. Anyone know anything about him?

Ripping bloke, been on our recruiting team for 7 or 8 years I guess, was previously @ Melbourne.

   Well that settles it then, considering how much success this bloke has seen come to fruition. Was he the one that sorted the cassette in alphabetical order to make it easier for Betamax? 

Can't this club sack anyone? Or is it that hard to sack mates?  Let's not sack a bunch of off the pace hacks that has more misses than a Mormon Bishop.

How about we appoint someone that has the best recruiting record in the country? Is it that hard?

As long as he's a great bloke. 

[Francois Jackson]

they must think hackson his done a reasonable job to keep him on as p/t??? NFI

This to me highlights what is wrong with the club. They have no guts to finish the old bastard off. That goes with the other dud assistants they have offered one year deals with.

Doubt there is anything the club could do today to appease some fans - I think its a fine move. Despite what you think, I know professional scouts personally and even the most underdone, least professional talent scout has a breadth of knowledge that is always going to be of some value. He's not calling the shots anymore - that's more than enough for mine!

Question regarding his replacement Matthew Clarke. Anyone know anything about him?

Ripping bloke, been on our recruiting team for 7 or 8 years I guess, was previously @ Melbourne.

That's all that matters then aye.