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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2016, 09:52:43 AM »
Tank tank and more tanking just like st Kilda did to get to a grand final and are doing again. Maybe this is the new way if your a bottom dwelling club.

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Beats coming 9th continually

 
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2016, 10:33:36 AM »
Yep that four good father son pickups for cheap was pretty handy too.
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2016, 12:38:50 PM »
Just to play Devils advocate.....

Bulldogs haven't won anything yet and I think I have seen this movie before .

2014 - a young exciting brash team called Port Adelaide capture the imagination of the football public . New coach Ken Hinkley speaks with such impressive authority. Port give the eventual premiers a massive scare in the Preliminary final .Hawks go on to win the grand final by 63 points the following week.

Summer 2015 and Port are widely tipped as likely Grand finalists and are in everyones top 4.

Have not made the finals since
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2016, 12:57:20 PM »
What the Doggies did show us all year and especially in the finals, is that you don't need a team of big names. You need players that will play their roll. It sounds like a cliche but it's so true. Half their side from yesterday most wouldn't recognise if you walked pass them in the street. 
Their coach is all class too which helps.

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2016, 01:32:46 PM »
But did they win with so many kids?

Don't you need list blockers like Hampson Houli grigg Morris on long term deals ??

I don't know, I need to hear from our resident expert (WAT) before I answer

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2016, 01:35:42 PM »
But did they win with so many kids?

Don't you need list blockers like Hampson Houli grigg Morris on long term deals ??

I don't know, I need to hear from our resident expert (WAT) before I answer

My guess is you won't get a rational answer

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2016, 01:36:39 PM »
But did they win with so many kids?

Don't you need list blockers like Hampson Houli grigg Morris on long term deals ??

I don't know, I need to hear from our resident expert (WAT) before I answer

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2016, 02:41:54 PM »
What the Doggies did show us all year and especially in the finals, is that you don't need a team of big names. You need players that will play their roll. It sounds like a cliche but it's so true. Half their side from yesterday most wouldn't recognise if you walked pass them in the street. 
Their coach is all class too which helps.

This is what I've been saying for a while. Hawks, Cats and the Swans recently have shown us teams loaded with guns across every line and clubs like ours, Melbourne etc bang on about emulating those teams in terms of processes and long rebuilds. WB have shown what you can do in a short time if you nail your coach and stamp a winning culture. Clubs like ours and even Collingwood seem to use our reserves as a training joint to get minutes into players where as WB used theirs to teach their young guys how to win and when they step up to the senior team they are already hungry to win. I believe we have a better top shelf than them and are far better resourced and I now don't see why we can't do the same with the right people and a new philosophy. I still reckon the majority of their side yesterday would be plodders anywhere else.

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2016, 02:45:19 PM »
What the Doggies did show us all year and especially in the finals, is that you don't need a team of big names. You need players that will play their roll. It sounds like a cliche but it's so true. Half their side from yesterday most wouldn't recognise if you walked pass them in the street. 
Their coach is all class too which helps.

This is what I've been saying for a while. Hawks, Cats and the Swans recently have shown us teams loaded with guns across every line and clubs like ours, Melbourne etc bang on about emulating those teams in terms of processes and long rebuilds. WB have shown what you can do in a short time if you nail your coach and stamp a winning culture. Clubs like ours and even Collingwood seem to use our reserves as a training joint to get minutes into players where as WB used theirs to teach their young guys how to win and when they step up to the senior team they are already hungry to win. I believe we have a better top shelf than them and are far better resourced and I now don't see why we can't do the same with the right people and a new philosophy. I still reckon the majority of their side yesterday would be plodders anywhere else.
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2016, 03:22:40 PM »
What the Doggies did show us all year and especially in the finals, is that you don't need a team of big names. You need players that will play their roll. It sounds like a cliche but it's so true. Half their side from yesterday most wouldn't recognise if you walked pass them in the street. 
Their coach is all class too which helps.
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2016, 04:59:24 PM »
Can't help but notice how few of the Doggies players have big, muscular rigs.  Cudos to their fitness guys, they hit the balance between size & strength right on the head.  Most of their list are lean & mean, but they don't lack in strength (they just beat up the Swans in the contests).  Light but strong opens the door for endurance gut running, top it off with excellent skills & you have a great football side.  Give any coach a list of 36 players who are perfectly prepared in strength, endurance & skill & results will follow.   
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2016, 07:01:48 PM »
WESTERN BULLDOGS

(Including Matthew Suckling, Lukas Webb and Tom Campbell)

First round picks

Marcus Bontempelli (No.4)
Jake Stringer (No.5)
Jack Macrae (No.6)
Clay Smith (draft pick No.17)

The Bulldogs' recruiting team deserves huge credit for its brave top-10 selections in 2012-13 that have added real star factor to the list. Some clubs wouldn't have touched Stringer given his serious leg injury, but the Bulldogs had seen him up close and believed he would get back to his best. Macrae was a safer choice and has proved an exceptional selection. The boldest pick was Bontempelli at No.4 in 2013. Bontempelli is everything a club would want in a top-five pick – he's tough, courageous, skillful and lifts in the big moments – and has already become one of the competition's most influential players. 

Second round

Josh Dunkley (No.25)
Toby McLean (No.26)
Lukas Webb (No.27)
Jordan Roughead (No.31)
Tom Liberatore (No.41)

Liberatore's status here is skewed by the fact he was taken under an older version of the father-son bidding system after Mitch Wallis was picked in the same year with the Dogs' first pick. Nevertheless, Liberatore sits in this category and his importance to the club's midfield cannot be overstated. McLean, Dunkley and Webb even being in this conversation highlights why the Bulldogs have been successful. The club, and coach Luke Beveridge, has instilled belief and confidence in the younger players. None are older than 20 but all have made an impact. McLean's rat cunning smarts in attack appealed to the Dogs' recruiters, while they saw more of Dunkley's strengths than his flaws when assessing where he sat in last year's pool.

Third round
Easton Wood (No.43)
Caleb Daniel (No.46)
Lachie Hunter (No.49)
Tory Dickson (No.57)

The Bulldogs' first premiership captain since 1954 might come from the third round of the draft. Wood has elevated himself into the top echelon of defenders in the competition the past few years, and was an All Australian and best and fairest winner in 2015. The real gem in this crop of recruits is Daniel, whom many clubs overlooked and wouldn't have drafted in 2014 due to his height. The runner up in this year's NAB AFL Rising Star award has impressed with his skill level and tenacity despite his shorter stature. Dickson was a clever choice after making his name at VFL level for Essendon's reserves side, while Lachie Hunter was a father-son pick. Rival clubs, in hindsight, took far too long to place a bid on the busy midfielder.   

Fourth round or later/Rookie Draft/Pre-season draft
Fletcher Roberts (No.11, pre-season draft)
Dale Morris (No.19, rookie draft)
Luke Dahlhaus (No.22, rookie draft)
Matthew Boyd (No.23, rookie draft)
Tom Campbell (No.27, rookie draft)
Liam Picken (No.30, rookie draft)
Jason Johannisen (No.39, rookie draft)
Zaine Cordy (No.64)

The Dogs' success with rookies Boyd, Picken and Morris has been well documented but all three have been crucial in the club's quick rebound in the past two years. In more recent times, Dahlhaus was plucked out of the Geelong Falcons system after catching the Dogs' eye. They took a punt on Johannisen because of a breakout trait – his extreme speed – while Campbell was another rookie selected to fill a need as a back-up ruckman. Cordy is another father-son pick for the Dogs where a rival bid has proven to be too late, with the Bulldogs able to secure him with a fourth-round choice. 

Trade/Free agency

Shane Biggs (traded from the Sydney Swans, with pick 39, for pick 37)
Tom Boyd (traded from the Giants for Ryan Griffen and pick 6)
Joel Hamling (delisted free agent)
Matthew Suckling (unrestricted free agent)

This highlights how the Bulldogs have built through crafty drafting rather than targeting players through trades and free agency. Boyd was a coup, but it took a long-term multi-million-dollar deal and the exit of their captain (plus pick six) to make it happen. Suckling was a nice addition without giving up anything as an unrestricted free agent. Biggs and Hamling arrived at the Dogs with far less fanfare but have been solid pick-ups at a basement price: Biggs cost them two spots in the draft and Hamling nothing at all as a delisted free agent from Geelong.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-28/how-the-sydney-swans-and-western-bulldogs-built-their-lists

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2016, 10:02:13 PM »
That is an amazing 3rd round and rookie draft hit ratio.  I wouldn't be surprised if its the best ratio ever of 3rd rounders and rookies to play in a GF wining team. How can we check easily anybody know?

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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2016, 10:13:14 PM »
I believe the Bulldogs have a female vice president.  :shh
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Re: The doggies blueprint
« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2016, 10:19:31 PM »
I believe the Bulldogs have a female vice president.  :shh

Yep incredibly lady is Sue Alberti

Huge philanthropist, done massive work with the womens legaue before the AFl got involved and the heartbreak shes faced in her own life is just ans inspiring story on its own
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