Pick 6 and go to the draft or Prestia?

[Stalin]

All hail Baphomet 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

some posters here who like to defend the current admin are the biggest idiots imo....

Which posters on OER defend the current board?

[Francois Jackson]

some posters here who like to defend the current admin are the biggest idiots imo....

Which posters on OER defend the current board?

peggy sue has been spared because she is female i believe.

[Stalin]

some posters here who like to defend the current admin are the biggest idiots imo....

Which posters on OER defend the current board?

peggy sue has been spared because she is female i believe.

Peggy thinking about Prestia or pick 6

[YellowandBlackBlood]

im truly amazed that so many people are so sure that we will recruit a better player than prestia with pick 6

What is this overwhelming endorsement of our recruiters based on?

I guess what people are saying is give them next years first. If Prestia is that good, we will improve our position considerably. That means we may have pick 12 or 13 next year. If you believe we won't improve and we may even go down, why should we waste $750K on a player who won't take us anywhere? May as well save the cash and splurge it next year on a FA like Fyfe and at the same time attack the draft with courage.

no,
what people are saying is that they believe that keeping pick 6 and going to the draft will be a better result than trading it for prestia.

on what basis would any sane person think that?

Prestia will be a better player than pick 6 next year. I think people are saying in 4 to 5 years pick 6 is a good chance of being better than Prestia and that we won't be challenging for at least that time. Does that make sense?

no it makes no sense.

define good chance and explain on what basis you make the judgement of good chance?

Based on viewing the players at TAC cup level they are more progressed than Prestia was at at the same stage.  I would say they have a greater than 50:50 chance of being better. I'm talking about players like McCluggage, Brodie, Taranto, Ainsworth etc etc.
Do you even bother following the juniors because you seem ignorant of the talent pool this year.

[tony_montana]

im truly amazed that so many people are so sure that we will recruit a better player than prestia with pick 6

What is this overwhelming endorsement of our recruiters based on?

I guess what people are saying is give them next years first. If Prestia is that good, we will improve our position considerably. That means we may have pick 12 or 13 next year. If you believe we won't improve and we may even go down, why should we waste $750K on a player who won't take us anywhere? May as well save the cash and splurge it next year on a FA like Fyfe and at the same time attack the draft with courage.

no,
what people are saying is that they believe that keeping pick 6 and going to the draft will be a better result than trading it for prestia.

on what basis would any sane person think that?

Prestia will be a better player than pick 6 next year. I think people are saying in 4 to 5 years pick 6 is a good chance of being better than Prestia and that we won't be challenging for at least that time. Does that make sense?

no it makes no sense.

define good chance and explain on what basis you make the judgement of good chance?

Based on viewing the players at TAC cup level they are more progressed than Prestia was at at the same stage.

Poisoned chalice right there - I still recall the infamous line

"tambling in year 3 is tracking better than mcleod was in year 3" 

Players respond differently to a professional environment, not to mention mindset plays a massive massive role ie Dane Swan - plodder who worked his arse off and had the mindset of a champion to become an elite midfielder. So saying there'd be a better chance to land someone better than prestia with pick 6 is a stretch.

Having said that Im only playing devils advocate here and would prefer we work it so we get prestia and a first rounder. To improve quickly, we need to bring in more good players than other sides are to improve quicker otherwise we're always treading water - Prestia instead of pick 6 is a sideways move and wont improve us quicker than other sides, prestia plus a first rounder = an extra bluechip player on the books and will help us improve quicker

[Penelope]

im truly amazed that so many people are so sure that we will recruit a better player than prestia with pick 6

What is this overwhelming endorsement of our recruiters based on?

I guess what people are saying is give them next years first. If Prestia is that good, we will improve our position considerably. That means we may have pick 12 or 13 next year. If you believe we won't improve and we may even go down, why should we waste $750K on a player who won't take us anywhere? May as well save the cash and splurge it next year on a FA like Fyfe and at the same time attack the draft with courage.

no,
what people are saying is that they believe that keeping pick 6 and going to the draft will be a better result than trading it for prestia.

on what basis would any sane person think that?

Prestia will be a better player than pick 6 next year. I think people are saying in 4 to 5 years pick 6 is a good chance of being better than Prestia and that we won't be challenging for at least that time. Does that make sense?

no it makes no sense.

define good chance and explain on what basis you make the judgement of good chance?

Based on viewing the players at TAC cup level they are more progressed than Prestia was at at the same stage.  I would say they have a greater than 50:50 chance of being better. I'm talking about players like McCluggage, Brodie, Taranto, Ainsworth etc etc.
Do you even bother following the juniors because you seem ignorant of the talent pool this year.

do you even take notice of what happens year in year out, because you seem extremely ignorant of out track record with drafting and developing.

or is there something exceeding special about this years draft pool that gives you extreme confidence that not only will the strike rate of 60% for top 10 picks be overcome, our inept at drafting and developing will also be overcome.

just for fun, why dont you list our top 10 picks under Jacksons watch and which ones you would regard as better players than prestia, all things considered?

[big tone]

I cannot believe we are even considering Prestia for pick 6. Regardless if we get something back as well. (Pick 27 odd)
He is a good average player and far from damaging.

Pick 6 could end up being another Reece Conca but it also could be a Bontempelli. If that is even remotely a chance you have to take it. You can build a side around a kid like that. We need to stop drafting and trading for vanilla type players. We play it way to safe IMO.

Bite the bullet Tigers and put your balls on the line- it may even pay off- let's face it, the other way hasent worked. 

[Francois Jackson]

clarke is our recruiter this time round and last yr apparently, not that i buy our man francis doesnt have any input.

[tony_montana]

clarke is our recruiter this time round and last yr apparently, not that i buy our man francis doesnt have any input.

hes a valued consultant now 

[🏅Dooks]

some posters here who like to defend the current admin are the biggest idiots imo....

Which posters on OER defend the current board?

peggy sue has been spared because she is female i believe.

Peggy thinking about Prestia or pick 6

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

im truly amazed that so many people are so sure that we will recruit a better player than prestia with pick 6

What is this overwhelming endorsement of our recruiters based on?

I guess what people are saying is give them next years first. If Prestia is that good, we will improve our position considerably. That means we may have pick 12 or 13 next year. If you believe we won't improve and we may even go down, why should we waste $750K on a player who won't take us anywhere? May as well save the cash and splurge it next year on a FA like Fyfe and at the same time attack the draft with courage.

no,
what people are saying is that they believe that keeping pick 6 and going to the draft will be a better result than trading it for prestia.

on what basis would any sane person think that?

Prestia will be a better player than pick 6 next year. I think people are saying in 4 to 5 years pick 6 is a good chance of being better than Prestia and that we won't be challenging for at least that time. Does that make sense?

no it makes no sense.

define good chance and explain on what basis you make the judgement of good chance?

Based on viewing the players at TAC cup level they are more progressed than Prestia was at at the same stage.  I would say they have a greater than 50:50 chance of being better. I'm talking about players like McCluggage, Brodie, Taranto, Ainsworth etc etc.
Do you even bother following the juniors because you seem ignorant of the talent pool this year.

do you even take notice of what happens year in year out, because you seem extremely ignorant of out track record with drafting and developing.

or is there something exceeding special about this years draft pool that gives you extreme confidence that not only will the strike rate of 60% for top 10 picks be overcome, our inept at drafting and developing will also be overcome.

just for fun, why dont you list our top 10 picks under Jacksons watch and which ones you would regard as better players than prestia, all things considered?

WTF?
Why do you even follow our club?
If you can't back the recruiters in getting a good player at 6 you may as well go follow another team.
Blah blah blah about historical events. I note our best players are all first rounders anyway. 2 of them later first rounders too.
FFS , following a team means you back them whether you like it or not. We can't go out and buy a whole team so we need to recruit most of our players. Facts show that later picks are less likely to be good players. So even if you don't think we can recruit anyone decent at 6 we still have to back our guys to make the right call. We may as well give up being a club if we throw up our hands in the air and say we are not good enough to recruit decent talent at pick 6.

[MintOnLamb]

Our recruiting has been abysmal apart from
Lids, Cotch, Dusty, Jack, and especially Fiora, Tambling, Conca, Lennon
Whoever we pick at 6 will ruin that player with our current set up and coach.
The worst thing is i dont even know how Prestia will go.
I would expect him to stay on the park, play at least 18 games next year and be more productive than Miles.
If that happens it is a win.
Pick 6 will probably languish in the 2's and be a skinny left footer

[Diocletian]

Give pick 6 to Brisbane for Rockliffe & pick 16 then give 16 to GC for Prestia... effectively Prestia & Rockcliffe for pick 6....

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

Our recruiting has been abysmal apart from
Lids, Cotch, Dusty, Jack, and especially Fiora, Tambling, Conca, Lennon
Whoever we pick at 6 will ruin that player with our current set up and coach.
The worst thing is i dont even know how Prestia will go.
I would expect him to stay on the park, play at least 18 games next year and be more productive than Miles.
If that happens it is a win.
Pick 6 will probably languish in the 2's and be a skinny left footer

Don't forget Rance. Easily the best pick/developed player since the draft was introduced IMO.