Pick 6 and go to the draft or Prestia?

[Tigeritis™©®]

Give pick 6 to Brisbane for Rockliffe & pick 16 then give 16 to GC for Prestia... effectively Prestia & Rockcliffe for pick 6....

You can have BJ Hartley's job as soon as tomorrow.  Give the man a cigar. 
I'd give Claw Betamax's job too.

Actually most on here would do a better job than the current regime. 

[TigerMonk]

l will laugh at the club if they trade pick 6 instead of picking the talent out of the draft.

Prestia is not worth a pick in the top 40. He has played limited football because his body can't handle the punishment & some of you think his some midfield god  wake up from your slump
He is another Griffiths  plays a few games & sits on the sidelines other weeks watching. You don't give up 1st round pick on a spud sitting in the stands. That is the reason our club has alot of spuds & a deluded coach. The best options are in the draft.

Our club is the sucker of other clubs. The reason our club is where it's at, Because Tigerland is the dumping ground of other clubs to clog our list up every year. No-one is prepared to take the risk down there nor have the balls to say your not what we want to move forward. Well Peggy certainly has none as she has no idea. Edwards will never win us a premiership. l rather get Lewis from Hawthorn who give's 10 times the effort every week & stands out in a game. If Deledio wants out of the club because his another one sitting in the stands often, Then make the big call & move him on. Has Richmond traded anyone while l been away. l have heard no news   

 

[tony_montana]

Give pick 6 to Brisbane for Rockliffe & pick 16 then give 16 to GC for Prestia... effectively Prestia & Rockcliffe for pick 6....

I was all for us trading 6 for 2 x first rounders in the teens then forcing GC to take one of those picks for Prestia and they would have. I dont think 6 wouldve got rockliff and 16 imho, probably 6 and 27

[Andyy]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

[Penelope]

im truly amazed that so many people are so sure that we will recruit a better player than prestia with pick 6

What is this overwhelming endorsement of our recruiters based on?

I guess what people are saying is give them next years first. If Prestia is that good, we will improve our position considerably. That means we may have pick 12 or 13 next year. If you believe we won't improve and we may even go down, why should we waste $750K on a player who won't take us anywhere? May as well save the cash and splurge it next year on a FA like Fyfe and at the same time attack the draft with courage.

no,
what people are saying is that they believe that keeping pick 6 and going to the draft will be a better result than trading it for prestia.

on what basis would any sane person think that?

Prestia will be a better player than pick 6 next year. I think people are saying in 4 to 5 years pick 6 is a good chance of being better than Prestia and that we won't be challenging for at least that time. Does that make sense?

no it makes no sense.

define good chance and explain on what basis you make the judgement of good chance?

Based on viewing the players at TAC cup level they are more progressed than Prestia was at at the same stage.  I would say they have a greater than 50:50 chance of being better. I'm talking about players like McCluggage, Brodie, Taranto, Ainsworth etc etc.
Do you even bother following the juniors because you seem ignorant of the talent pool this year.

do you even take notice of what happens year in year out, because you seem extremely ignorant of out track record with drafting and developing.

or is there something exceeding special about this years draft pool that gives you extreme confidence that not only will the strike rate of 60% for top 10 picks be overcome, our inept at drafting and developing will also be overcome.

just for fun, why dont you list our top 10 picks under Jacksons watch and which ones you would regard as better players than prestia, all things considered?

WTF?
Why do you even follow our club?
If you can't back the recruiters in getting a good player at 6 you may as well go follow another team.
Blah blah blah about historical events. I note our best players are all first rounders anyway. 2 of them later first rounders too.
FFS , following a team means you back them whether you like it or not. We can't go out and buy a whole team so we need to recruit most of our players. Facts show that later picks are less likely to be good players. So even if you don't think we can recruit anyone decent at 6 we still have to back our guys to make the right call. We may as well give up being a club if we throw up our hands in the air and say we are not good enough to recruit decent talent at pick 6.

 
what a mental rant

[Yeahright]

And it didn't justify a thing either

[Willy]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Good post.

[yandb]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Injuries requiring operations and resulting in missing an entire season spread over two years.

We gambled on Yarran and lost we can't afford to gamble on Prestia at $700k per year and our best pick in the draft for 6 years.

[Stalin]

Is Prestia a gun?

[TigerMonk]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Prestia is a gun based on what. What you say expert   

[Andyy]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Prestia is a gun based on what. What you say expert   

Watch him play, look at his numbers. And he's the type of inside midfielder we sorely need.

On what would you suggest he isn't a gun?


No need to be a bully just because you have nothing constructive to say!

[TigerMonk]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Prestia is a gun based on what. What you say expert   

Watch him play, look at his numbers. And he's the type of inside midfielder we sorely need.

On what would you suggest he isn't a gun?


No need to be a bully just because you have nothing constructive to say!

Look at his numbers ? l have 0,0,0,0,0, You been watching football lately. He sits in the stands   

[Owl]

I watched his highlights package and was underwhelmed, granted, this a convoluted depiction of his overall contribution.  Looks like a solid foot soldier rather than an special
I am getting an impression that next year is supposed to be a good draft though, so maybe we are thinking to get a few solid citizens in and skip the lottery this time round.  A few things might come up from our zone etc.

[Andyy]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Prestia is a gun based on what. What you say expert   

Watch him play, look at his numbers. And he's the type of inside midfielder we sorely need.

On what would you suggest he isn't a gun?


No need to be a bully just because you have nothing constructive to say!

Look at his numbers ? l have 0,0,0,0,0, You been watching football lately. He sits in the stands   

Along with blokes like Nat Fyfe who was even worse than Prestia this year. And Deledio?

Please...

[Chuck17]

Some laughable talk about Prestia.

Kid is a gun inside mid.

Couple of injuries the last two years, but nothing to suggest he is actually injury-prone let alone finished. And yet people cry murder at the prospect of trading Deledio FMD.

Mitchell by comparison has had two good years and despite having a higher ceiling imo hasn't proved himself as much as Prestia - based on a longer timeframe of good performances and the fact Mitchell is suited up with Kennedy, Jack, Hannebery, Parker, McVeigh etc whereas Prestia has G Ablett and then not much else.

Worth pick 6? Not in isolation. RFC knows this and this is why the negotiations are taking so long.

Prestia is a gun based on what. What you say expert   

Watch him play, look at his numbers. And he's the type of inside midfielder we sorely need.

On what would you suggest he isn't a gun?


No need to be a bully just because you have nothing constructive to say!

Look at his numbers ? l have 0,0,0,0,0, You been watching football lately. He sits in the stands   

Along with blokes like Nat Fyfe who was even worse than Prestia this year. And Deledio?

Please...

Wouldn't worry too much about TM, he was and still probably is John Butchers biggest fan