Yarran Cut from list...official

[Chuck17]

Geez ....again with this clueless crap....you really are a glutton for punishment:

11 games with Houli - 2 wins, 9 losses.

10 games without Houli - 6 wins, 4 losses.

FACT.

Watch the games

I will tell you what I see from watching the games;

* Houli streaming out of the back line without an opposition player in sight because he plays the role of a release player
* a soft defender with no hardness what so ever.
* opposition teams coming out of the back line targeting Houlis position because they know he is soft
* for someone who generally has no pressure on his possessions he sure as hell stuffs a lot of them up

Similar to the Hampson and Hunt debates playing these sorts of players will not get us any further, they are stop gap players who ensure we are a middling side at best.  In fact I would argue that playing these types of players sets a bad example for young upcoming players and influences how they develop.

But hey if you are happy where we are as a side, and like watching Houli streaming unaccountably out of the back line and like watching Hampson tap the ball indiscriminately and like Hunt acting like a scared defender then who am I stop you.

Welcome to the road of no where for another 30 odd years

[Jackstar 1960]

Chuck
That is not the view from opposition clubs or from the RFC
Internally the players you mentioned are seen as vital players in the club going forward
The players you mentioned I will call " easy targets "
Example Taylor Hunt
Ask the opposition players who have played on him
They say pretty hard player to get away from
Hunt played some shocking games in the first part of the season
Had interrupted pre season which showed
Went back to the VFL and worked hard at another of things
His last half of the year was very serviceable where he played most games at AFL and performed well
Pointless bagging players who actually have a decent go
Think you should look closely and game plans etc as this was the bigger issue in 2016

[🏅Dooks]

Well, im confused.

[Jackstar 1960]

Taylor Hunt played 17 games this year and averaged 18 posssesions a game

[Yeahright]

Hey Jack - when you watch replays of the Fremantle game from 2015 on this magical result-reversing tv of yours, does Houli just kick it down the line or does he still go down the guts but Mundy misses?

as for your little stat earlier... oh yeah, pick the yeah the TEAM AS A WHOLE plays like poo to suit your argument.  How about this for a stat?  2015... 23 games played WITH Houli... 15 wins, 8 losses.

  Imagine how many we could have won if we dropped him

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Houli goes ok but just has too many brain fades for a player of his experience. In fact, I'd argue he's decision making in crucial moments is now worse. In clutch moments he looks like a player who doesn't want the responsibility to win the match.

[🏅Dooks]

I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.

It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.

[taztiger4]

I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.

It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.

ca ching, that was certainly my take after spending a game in the coaches box

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.

It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.

ca ching, that was certainly my take after spending a game in the coaches box

So why are these senior players who do not follow the game plan dropped? Not dropping them creates a poor culture. We have been suffering from poor culture for over 30 years....

[Chuck17]

I recall one of the mods (think it was WP) going to a pre-game function/similar early in the year where the gameplan was explained and it was argued that the problem was the players werent implementing it.

It was then picked up at the game that Rance was baking Houli for taking the non-gameplan options on the field and we were leaking goals.

ca ching, that was certainly my take after spending a game in the coaches box

So why are these senior players who do not follow the game plan dropped? Not dropping them creates a poor culture. We have been suffering from poor culture for over 30 years....

Maybe they satisfy the mediocrity accepting clappers

[🏅Dooks]

So if Rance is baking him, and the Coaches are baking him, how exactly do we play better as a team with him?

[Diocletian]

A better "brand" apparently....

[🏅Dooks]

A better "brand" apparently....

Like 'Great Wall' is better than 'Lexus' better?

[Diocletian]

Home Brand Houli....

[big tone]

Houli hasn't got a competitive bone in his body.  He is a dud and a big part of the reason we are where we are. His efforts sometimes are laughable. He is in the Bellis ballpark of pathetic.