Rookie pick 6: Tyson Stengle

[FlashGordon]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

As it stands we could have had Scrimshaw or English or Pepper-Powell or Brodie and a Cedric Cox in yellow and black now had we kept our picks and went the real rebuild. 
time wil tell but I feel we stuffed it up again.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.

[FlashGordon]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.

We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 .  As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess..  Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.   

[YellowandBlackBlood]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.

We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 .  As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess

I agree with all that. The problem becomes that deals are made several months before trade period. Tom Mitchell was always going to Hawthorn. Nobody was going to stop that. I want to know why we gave up a 2017 second rounder too for Prestia? We really did get bent over for that.
I hope he turns out to be an A grader for us because we gave up a lot for him. Time will tell but for now it looks like we lost on that deal.

[FlashGordon]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.

We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 .  As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess

I agree with all that. The problem becomes that deals are made several months before trade period. Tom Mitchell was always going to Hawthorn. Nobody was going to stop that. I want to know why we gave up a 2017 second rounder too for Prestia? We really did get bent over for that.
I hope he turns out to be an A grader for us because we gave up a lot for him. Time will tell but for now it looks like we lost on that deal.

Agreed, and by A-grader i want impact and game changing impact. The problem with us is we give up the world and get servicable and everyone says he is doing his job so its ok, it isnt his fault and all that poo that is used to justify another clusterfuck.  At the end of the day, we gave up the world for a guy who has played a handful of games in an team that would lose if their main man wasnt there, who has dodgy knees. And the dawks pick up a fit and ready to roll gun fior peanuts relatively speaking.   We have a dud coach and dud recruiters and that wasnt addressed after that mythical review

[MintOnLamb]

From Flash Gordon:
Agreed, and by A-grader i want impact and game changing impact. The problem with us is we give up the world and get servicable and everyone says he is doing his job so its ok, it isnt his fault and all that poo that is used to justify another clusterstuff.  At the end of the day, we gave up the world for a guy who has played a handful of games in an team that would lose if their main man wasnt there, who has dodgy knees. And the dawks pick up a fit and ready to roll gun fior peanuts relatively speaking.   We have a dud coach and dud recruiters and that wasnt addressed after that mythical review

Have to agree Flash.
We seem to be keen on rushing headlong into disasters, unnecessarily signing Hardwick for 2 years and especially not addressing the recruitment department.
As always we can only hope for the best .

Unfortunately the management seem to stumble from one trading disaster to another and our coach has his needle stuck on a game plan our team cannot execute and it is obvious that the game has passed him by IMHO (eg we are not a strong tackling side, best list I have had at my time at RFC), IMO if he can't get it right after all this time the future does not look too rosy for Hardwick at RFC.

Luckily we are financially OK but my 29 year old son still looks at me with skepticism  and silently asks why  did I burden him with barracking for RFC?

[FlashGordon]

From Flash Gordon:
Agreed, and by A-grader i want impact and game changing impact. The problem with us is we give up the world and get servicable and everyone says he is doing his job so its ok, it isnt his fault and all that poo that is used to justify another clusterstuff.  At the end of the day, we gave up the world for a guy who has played a handful of games in an team that would lose if their main man wasnt there, who has dodgy knees. And the dawks pick up a fit and ready to roll gun fior peanuts relatively speaking.   We have a dud coach and dud recruiters and that wasnt addressed after that mythical review

Have to agree Flash.
We seem to be keen on rushing headlong into disasters, unnecessarily signing Hardwick for 2 years and especially not addressing the recruitment department.
As always we can only hope for the best .

Unfortunately the management seem to stumble from one trading disaster to another and our coach has his needle stuck on a game plan our team cannot execute and it is obvious that the game has passed him by IMHO (eg we are not a strong tackling side, best list I have had at my time at RFC), IMO if he can't get it right after all this time the future does not look too rosy for Hardwick at RFC.

Luckily we are financially OK but my 29 year old son still looks at me with skepticism  and silently asks why  did I burden him with barracking for RFC?

Its crazy. I cant work out how after the forensic review, a bunch of assistants were sacked and a few conditioners and not one of the recruiters.  Are they saying that they had performed to the required standard?  I mean we can factor in the complete and utter balls up of the yarran fiasco too.   Just doesnt add up and its a real concern as to what is going on down at Punt Rd with the smoke screen they have put up to hide how we really stuffed up another chance to really build this team from the ground up.   I wont bang on about it, but this Caddy from the cats, he is apparently a gun yeah? how on earth does he now find himself at his 3rd club after how long?   Its a worry.   I am livid that we could have had Cedric Cox.  Bookmark this, he will be the new Buddy in debates at tigerland on who we missed out on.

[Gracie]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.

We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 .  As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess..  Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.

We gave up pick 6 and next years 2nd round pick for Prestia and pick 24

27 came as compo for losing Vickery

[FlashGordon]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.

We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 .  As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess..  Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.

We gave up pick 6 and next years 2nd round pick for Prestia and pick 24

27 came as compo for losing Vickery

ok...my mistake then. We got 24 and gave it away for Caddy.    So we still could have landed Cox and Prestia then.   Just dont like the thougth that we have picked up a player who has been in the game for 5 years and at his 3rd club.

IMO  this trade/draft period was a sign of no confidence in the current recruiting dept and it was deemed safer to go the used car lot rather than go to the drafft for a rebuild.  Lets face it, they added the expertise of Luke Williams to the likes of FJ, Matt Clarke, Richard Taylor and Blair Hartley 3 years ago and we are well aware of the farse they have made of the drafts.  As i said before, I cannot for the life of me understand how not one of these guys was shown the door, after we apparently sought reasons for our demise. Outside the IP they possesed re. this year, which to me meant nought anyway, seeing as we had committed to Prestia and basically put ourselves out of a draft that most teams were falling over backwards to get into.  Its the quick fix road once again for us. Buys the board another 5-7 years of stability as we develop again 

[Owl]

we got 2 First rounders for next years super draft, got 2 ready to go mids, a flashy small forward and another mid that might turn out to be a gun and speculative big defender.  Sits ok with me.

[FlashGordon]

we got 2 First rounders for next years super draft, got 2 ready to go mids, a flashy small forward and another mid that might turn out to be a gun and speculative big defender.  Sits ok with me.

Groundhog day..been getting these types for the last 8 years.

[Jonesracing82]

Indigenous perform at their best when they  play together as a rule, good recruiting by Clarke imho

Our handling of indigenous players in the past seems to have missed the mark, hopefully we are on board now with 4 boys in the team, could be mercurial

X.Clarke is a great mentor for them. a shrewd appointment IMO

[the claw]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

As it stands we could have had Scrimshaw or English or Pepper-Powell or Brodie and a Cedric Cox in yellow and black now had we kept our picks and went the real rebuild. 
time wil tell but I feel we stuffed it up again.

Great pos.
It was obvious  since the last ball was bounced that we needed to embrace the nd rather than almost totally trading out of it we needed to trade into it
fmd keep 6 Brodie and get a top 10 in and we get Logue   we adress the two biggest holes in the list big inside ball winning machine and a kpd who has rance like traits but is probably better standing next to an opponent.
Instead we trade 6 for a very good player granted lose 24 and use 27 on a bloke who looks like tarzan and plays like jane.I am still shaking my head that we only had three nd picks and only one inside the top 50 and the club has pulled the wool over most supporters eyes in doing it.
The only decent pick we have we then go and use it on a tiny sml fwd yet we all knew there would be sml fwds to pick from later in the draft and rookie draft as is the case nearly every yr.

Anyway it really is a case of the more things change the they stay the same with this mob.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive

Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.

The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.

The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?

We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs

As it stands we could have had Scrimshaw or English or Pepper-Powell or Brodie and a Cedric Cox in yellow and black now had we kept our picks and went the real rebuild. 
time wil tell but I feel we stuffed it up again.

Great pos.
It was obvious  since the last ball was bounced that we needed to embrace the nd rather than almost totally trading out of it we needed to trade into it
fmd keep 6 Brodie and get a top 10 in and we get Logue   we adress the two biggest holes in the list big inside ball winning machine and a kpd who has rance like traits but is probably better standing next to an opponent.
Instead we trade 6 for a very good player granted lose 24 and use 27 on a bloke who looks like tarzan and plays like jane.I am still shaking my head that we only had three nd picks and only one inside the top 50 and the club has pulled the wool over most supporters eyes in doing it.
The only decent pick we have we then go and use it on a tiny sml fwd yet we all knew there would be sml fwds to pick from later in the draft and rookie draft as is the case nearly every yr.

Anyway it really is a case of the more things change the they stay the same with this mob.

All looks obvious to all of us. Just hope the club got it right and we didn't.....
I'd rather be wrong here 1000x over and see success at the RFC!

[Fluffy Tiger]

Is this a scientific rule or one you just made up

Is that the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything???

Wouldn't it be funny if we gave him that number now. I think it vacant.