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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #120 on: January 31, 2006, 01:57:57 PM »
Great pics guys! In the third pic, Browny looks like he's had 2 broken legs. Good to see him mixing it with the rest.

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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #121 on: January 31, 2006, 02:30:05 PM »
Yeah, on SEN today Brian Royal said that Browny had been doing a little bit of competitive stuff and got a little "pressure" on the leg (a little knock or something), it was a little sore but he is o.k. (apparently)

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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #122 on: January 31, 2006, 03:48:54 PM »
Yeah, on SEN today Brian Royal said that Browny had been doing a little bit of competitive stuff and got a little "pressure" on the leg (a little knock or something), it was a little sore but he is o.k. (apparently)


Chocco didn't hold back either in calling the new quick kick-in rule a farce. Reckoned we'll now see plenty of coast to coast goals like in basketball.
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #123 on: January 31, 2006, 06:37:23 PM »
really appreciate all this info and pics some of you are surely making  it better for those of us that cant be there  just wondering whats happening with Tiva not a lot of talk about him and get the impression he wont be in TW's starting 22 in past times he was a very good player but lost some confidence playing under certain coaching styles  i reckon theres always room for a great long lefty in any footy side     
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #124 on: January 31, 2006, 08:10:48 PM »
really appreciate all this info and pics some of you are surely making  it better for those of us that cant be there  just wondering whats happening with Tiva not a lot of talk about him and get the impression he wont be in TW's starting 22 in past times he was a very good player but lost some confidence playing under certain coaching styles  i reckon theres always room for a great long lefty in any footy side     
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #125 on: January 31, 2006, 10:22:34 PM »
really appreciate all this info and pics some of you are surely making  it better for those of us that cant be there  just wondering whats happening with Tiva not a lot of talk about him and get the impression he wont be in TW's starting 22 in past times he was a very good player but lost some confidence playing under certain coaching styles  i reckon theres always room for a great long lefty in any footy side     
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I don't know if Tivs is on a slightly modified program to the others but every now and then at training he has trained away from the main group drills such as doing 1-on-1 marking contests with Browny or runs along the boundary.

In any case, Tivs does have an uphill battle given he has no right foot. Other sides have worked him out by blocking his run onto his left so he's forced to do a u-turn or a wide arc which breaks down and slows our attack.  
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #126 on: January 31, 2006, 10:35:30 PM »
All i wanna know is:

do they know how to get the footy?

The boys seem now at ease and familiar with Wallace's run and carry gameplan.

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do they know how to kick it properly?

There's still those occasional "same old Richmond" moments of passes to the feet or over the head of teammates but last Friday the skill level was very good. Best training session of the lot I've seen so far in that regard.

The real test will be whether the skills now stand up better under full-on game pressure.

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are the new boys showing good signs of progress?

Don't expect a repeat of Lids' 2005 from any of them as they still need to bulk up but no complaints here so far. The next test for Oakley-Nicholls, Hughes, Casserley, White and the rookies is to show what they can do in an actual match. 
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #127 on: February 01, 2006, 02:20:27 PM »
Back from a wet Victoria Park. I got there around 10am and training ran overtime to 12.10pm. A long session today. The Tiges were still finishing up as some the Hawks began doing laps.

No sign of Oakley-Nicholls or Casserley. Tambling, Cogs, Knobel, Moore and Chaffey were separate from the main group doing laps around the boundary and 100m straight runs (not sprints). Knobel and Moore left about half way through training while Tambling, Cogs and Chaffey stayed on to do running kick-to-kicks between themselves. Razor also left early before the final drill/pseudo practice match.

The first drill I saw when I rocked up was one the boys have done before. The squad is lined up along the one wing edge of the centre square and split into groups of five. They run as a group of five handballing between themselves to the other wing then split into a 3-on-2 on the way back with the 3 keeping hold of possession via run and handball and the 2 trying to stop them. All done very cleanly without a ball hitting the ground.

The second drill was also one the boys have done a few times before. They're split into four groups and need to mark and short pass between the groups. To speed the drill up they added two footys per group. Once again overall cleanly executed.

The remaining drills were game based ones whereby the attacking side had to compete and enter inside 50 against greater numbers (2 more defenders to be precise). The squad was split into two and the two groups performed the same task at either end of the ground. Each of these groups in turn were split into a midfield and forward/backline groups with yellows vs blacks. I was mainly watching the drill at the Station end so I'll talk about them.

At our end the yellows were attacking. The drill would start on a flank about 80m out with 3 yellows against two blacks near Wallace who had the ball. Off to the left hand side were 3 blacks and to the right a yellow and black pairing. The teams were:

Yellows: Rodan, Sugar, Tuck and Kellaway
Blacks: Raines, Hyde, Newman, Meyer, Roach, Howat and Polo.

Up forward there would be three pairings: McGuane(B)-Krakouer(Y), Thursfield(B)-Richo(Y) and Schulz(B)-Stafford(Y).

Terry would start the drill by throwing the ball to a yellow midfielder and then the yellows had to get the ball forward inside 50 with the blacks flooding back and the extra blacks filling holes. The idea was for the yellows to not only lead but try to drag their direct blacks opponent out of a space so a yellow teammate could lead into it.

Richo was on fire although the passes to him were spot on particularly from Sugar.

After a dozen or so repeats the two groups went into huddles and a couple of guys changed groups. The drill was then repeated with now the blacks on the offensive.

Blacks: Howat, Roach, Hyde and Meyer.
Yellows: Tivs, Hartigan, Kellaway, Rodan, Tuck and Krakouer.

Up forward: Limbach(19)-Gas(2), Pettifer(B)-White(Y) and McGuane(B)-Joel(Y).

The drill restarted with the same 3 blacks vs 2 yellows set-up in the midfield but this time the coach would short pass to one of the blacks so the drill began from a stationary mark or he would kick high to simulate a pack situation.

Meyer had the cleanest skills of the blacks midfield. Nailed an awesome pass between defenders to Limbach on the lead.

Overall though in both groups the defenders were able to stop the attacks most of the time. Usual it was the final pass that let the attacking team down. The Pass being too "loopy" or not to the advatageous side of the leading forward enabling the ball to be punched away. Having more numbers also allowed the defenders to collect any crumbs from split contested marks.

The squad was then brought in to get ready for a full ground length pseudo practice match. The pseudo part being that centre bounce was moved around the square to simulate pack ball-ups.

Yellows:            Blacks:

2. Gas               1. Newman
3. Lids               4. Raines
5. Simmonds   8. Roach
10. Stafford      14. Polo
11. Joel             15. Pettifer
12. Richo         19. Limbach
16. Paddy        22. Meyer
18. Rodan       23. Jackson
21. Tuck           25. Schulz
26. Pattison     31. Hyde
27. Krakouer    34. Hughes
32. Tivs             36. Thursfield   
33. Hartigan     38. McGuane
35. White           41. Foley
39. Kellaway     42. Humm
                            43. Howat
                       44. Graham

A couple of guys were wearing red singlets for the blacks.

Set-up

Foley-Tivs   Limbach-Kellaway   Jackson-Gas
Hyde-White   Hughes-Joel       Pettifer-Hartigan

Graham-Simmonds, Newman-Rodan,  Humm-Tuck, Howat-Sugar, Meyer-David King (#20)

Polo-Paddy Bowden    McGuane-Pattison     Raines-Krakouer
Schulz-Stafford      Thursfield-Richo     Roach-Lids

When the Yellows were kicking to the Station end I don't remember a goal being kicked and the coaches weren't keeping score anyway. The final kick forward was still an issue with a number of passes being cut off by defenders at both ends. When Wallace brought the boys into a huddle and they swapped ends, the final kick inside 50 was much better executed as the game went alone.

Despite the Blacks kicking the first goal through Hughes after some good work from Limbach, the Yellows rattled on the next 5 goals in a row with Richo on the end of nearly every pass forward. Sugar nailing many of those passes. The game initially was mostly kick and mark stuff but once the boys started to run and link up with handball receives, the movement of the ball was infinitely quicker and of better quality.

Richo, Sugar, Meyer, Krakouer and Hyde were the most prominent and influential IMO.

The Yellows defenders teamed well and set up a number of rebounds.

Jackson and Gas had a good battle out of the goalsquare. Jackson had an up and down game. Mixed good things with the ordinary (such as kicking into the man of the mark after taking a good semi-contested grab on the lead).

Goals:

Yellows 5  (Richo 3, Stafford 1 .... the last one was a quick snap at the other end of the ground so I missed who it was)
Blacks 1  (Hughes)


Training ended with the yellows and blacks doing separate drills. The blacks did some ball-wrestling on the ground where the players would pair up with one player with the ball lying on the ground and the other needing to strip the guy on the ground of the ball. Meanwhile the yellows alos paired up but with the ball on the ground one player had to prevent the other from getting it while keeping their feet. After 5-10 minutes the yellows and blacks swapped. Kingy had a jokingly dig at White because he lost the ball in "record time" ;D.

Photos to come although my camera was playing up today :scream. No shirts off in the cold and wet Moi and Julz.
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #128 on: February 02, 2006, 12:07:16 AM »
Tambo and Cogs



Attacking against more defenders drill

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Terry brings his group in for a chat // Raines about send the blacks into attack

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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #129 on: February 02, 2006, 12:16:37 AM »
Scratch match

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Yellows and Blacks huddles with Browny in the foreground // Patto, McGuane, Staff, Schulz, Lids, Roach, Richo and Thursty.


Graham and Simmonds contests a centre bounce // Changing ends


Humm passes across field as Blacks go forward

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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #130 on: February 02, 2006, 12:22:29 AM »
Wrestling drills


Blacks take a break // Blacks wrestling for the ball


Yellows wrestle for the ball while Blacks in background play keepings off

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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #131 on: February 02, 2006, 03:14:22 AM »
A Hawks fan watched the Tiges train yesterday and gave a summary on HHQ:

http://www.hawkheadquarters.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20523&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 - Second post from the top.

Apart from not realising Browny doesn't train with the main group on Wednesdays and that Tambo has a slight hamstring "niggle", it's a positive report on us.

He even admits earlier in the thread that we're ahead of Hawthorn  :thumbsup.

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Btw, Richmond training session went for 150 minutes!!

And there practice match which was full on went for 60 minutes...IMO they are ahead of us and looked good!!

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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #132 on: February 03, 2006, 03:28:57 PM »
Got to training at 11am and caught up with Moi again :thumbsup.

There was a cameraman (possibly from the H-Sun) taking pictures on the boundary so there may be an article about the Tiges in tomorrow's paper.

The boys were just limbering up to start. Another long session with it ending around 1.15pm. No sign of Thursfield, Knobel or Casserley (all injured?). Oakley-Nicholls and Moore ran laps then left. The rest all joined in the drills including Cogs, Tambo and Chaffey. The only new injury was Newman sitting out the scratch match with an icepack on his right upper inner thing/groin. I think it was just a minor thing as he seemed to be walking fine when he left. Chaffey, Browny, Lids and Razor also sat out the scratch match.

The first drill of the day was a ball-skills one. The squad was split into a circle of 6 smalls groups at the Yarra Falls end of Vic Park. The object of the drill was for one player to roll the ball along the ground to a guy coming from another group who would gather on the run and handball to someone in the next group who in turn would roll the ball back along the ground to the same player and this player would then pass to someone on the lead from the next group along. As the drill was at the other end of the ground it was difficult to judge individual efforts but overall it was cleanly executed.

The next two drills worked on decision marking when kicking the ball into the forward 50 and marking on the lead.

The first of these was a fairly straightforward pass and mark drill. The squad was split into two located at either end of the ground and then within each of these three groups were organised with two located on HF flanks and the other in the goalsquare. The guys in the groups on the flanks would then pass to guys on the lead from the goalsquare group. While a couple of passes went over the head early on, the boys got cleaner as the drill progressed. David King reminded them to mark in the hands not on the chest.

The decision making drill began with each group at either end split into Y&Bs (attackers) and red singlets (defenders). The drill began with a 1-on-1 just inside the centre square at CHF and then a 3-on-2 in the forward line with 2 pairs and a free forward. The guy with the ball at CHF had to wait for the dummy leads from the manned forwards and spot a pass to the lead of the free forward. If this forward was too far out they would then continue on just like in a game. To make things harder they then added a couple of more pairings who would run forward from a group at the side.

Overall the passing, timing of the kicks and decision making was of high quality. Very impressive. Just wish they would do the same in actual matches. They were going at 100% for a fair while. I think they ended up with something like 27 hits out of 30 tries which is around 90%. Meyer, Lids and Browny the standouts with the preciseness of their passing.

Wallace then brought the boys in and they set-up for a scratch match between Yellows (and some reds) vs Blacks that went for a quarter.

Yellows                  Blacks

5. Simmonds             2. Gas
8. Roach                     4. Raines
11. Joel Bowden     10. Stafford
12. Richo                  14. Polo
15. Pettifer                17. Sugar
16. Paddy Bowden  18. Rodan
19. Limbach              21. Tuck
23. Jackson              22. Meyer
24. Cogs                   27. Krakouer   
25. Schulz                 32. Tivs       
26. Pattison              34. Hughes
30. Tambling            38. Mcguane                       
31. Hyde                    39. Kellaway
33. Hartigan             42. Humm
35. White                  43. Howat
41. Foley                   44. Graham

Match-ups

Richo-Gas, Jackson-Chubba, Hyde-McGuane

Simmo-Graham, Foley-Howat, Tambo-Polo, Pettifer-Raines, Pattison-Tivs
Roach-Sugar, Cogs-Tuck, Hartigan-Krakouer, Paddo-Meyer, White-Humm

Joel-Hughes, Limbach-Rodan, Schulz-Stafford

Score
Yellows: 4.2-26   (Jackson, Roach, White, Paddy Bowden)
Blacks: 2.4-16    (Rodan, Hughes) - Staff didn't have his goalkicking boots today. Missed twice from set-shots on a 45-50 degree angle.

Best: Hyde (on fire through the midfield), Hartigan, Rodan, Meyer, Krakouer.

Full-on game too and fairly even in general play. Yellows just had the edge through Hyde and on the scoreboard.

After the scratch match, the boys broke into 4 small groups with 3 of them doing 100m and 200m runs while the last group with Richo, Patto, Graham, McGuane, Limbach, Browny, Jackson, Rodan and a couple of others did the cone drill from a couple of weeks ago. 5 small cones of different colours were placed in the shape of a 5 like on a dice about 5m apart from one another.

Red     Orange   

     Yellow

Blue    Double orange


     The trainer would then yell out a colour and a pair of players would have sprint and change direction then after about 5-6 cones the trainer would shout out "lead" and they would sprint out towards a pass from Kingy with one going for the mark and the other trying to stop the other. The drill was then repeated again with one applying pressure to the other but this time with the trainer shouting out randomly "drop to the floor" and "wrestle". With the bigger boys they had 2 trying to stop 1 from reaching the cones and then marking the ball on the lead. One time they had Patto and Graham against Richo and when the trainer shouted out "wrestle" they both nailed Richo to the ground which didn't impress the big fella. Next time Richo was up he only had Graham against him and he threw/pushed Graham to the ground when the "wrestle" call came lol then said the "f" word when he just missed the mark on the lead :lol. That's our Richo. Patto also had 2 smaller guys against him (I think it was Joel and Browny) and did really well manoeuvring and barging through to each cone.

And that was that. Pattison, McGuane and Graham stayed behind to work on their leading with passes from Polo. Rodan, Limbach, Jackson and Tuck did goalkicking practice. David King showed off to Rodan by snagging one from the boundary.

Photos to come and hopefully some other goodies if we're lucky ;).
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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #133 on: February 03, 2006, 03:41:58 PM »
Photos to come and hopefully some other goodies if we're lucky ;).
Not from me i'm afraid MT - but maybe our new best friend will have something nice  ;)
Was the best day i've been at a training session - sun was shining, not too hot like last week.  Was easy just to go down to the boundary line not worrying about melting and perv my little eyes out.
Was good to see Rodan up and about and playing well, as well as Meyer.  We just gotta make sure he doesn't get homesick, because he's all class.
Shame Julz wasn't there because Richo, Staff and Simmo looked in very nice nick  :-* and they were in front of us for most of the session. 
Browny's getting better and better, Hyde was everywhere.

Great report yet again, MT  :thumbsup  Don't know how you retain all that stuff when you have a twit sitting next to you.  I promise, i won't go again lol.  Back to work unfortunately next week  ???


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Re: Tiger Training
« Reply #134 on: February 03, 2006, 03:52:25 PM »
It's good fun just laying back watching some footy and chatting away before heading off to work nearby.

ps. that'll teach you to look through the viewfinder with your dark shades still on :shh.
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