Rumoured leadership group - Cotch (c), Rance, Titch, Jack (H-Sun)

[big tone]

I see Fyfe has been named captain of Freeo this year.
Anyone think the players voted him in or do you think the club has named him captain to try and keep him in Freeo?
Seems a little convenient to me!! Nar, that stuff wouldn't happen.

It certainly does happen, and did.

👍
Yer that was my point. 

[Rodgerramjet]

I see Fyfe has been named captain of Freeo this year.
Anyone think the players voted him in or do you think the club has named him captain to try and keep him in Freeo?
Seems a little convenient to me!! Nar, that stuff wouldn't happen.

It certainly does happen, and did.

What i probably should of added to that was 2 words, "extenuating circumstance" you have got to have some wiggle room in the proper circumstance whether that is openly acknowledged or not, but it must not be abused otherwise credibility as management is undermined.

Nothing i have said here invalidates what WP or anybody has said on this issue in previous posts, you are both in essence correct.

[big tone]

I see Fyfe has been named captain of Freeo this year.
Anyone think the players voted him in or do you think the club has named him captain to try and keep him in Freeo?
Seems a little convenient to me!! Nar, that stuff wouldn't happen.

It certainly does happen, and did.

What i probably should of added to that was 2 words, "extenuating circumstance" you have got to have some wiggle room in the proper circumstance whether that is openly acknowledged or not, but it must not be abused otherwise credibility as management is undermined.

Nothing i have said here invalidates what WP or anybody has said on this issue in previous posts, you are both in essence correct.

It's not something that can be both ways imo.... it either happens or it doesn't.
Either the players vote their captain in and the coach and the coaching panel endorse it and WP is right, or the players get a vote and then the club decides if that is the way they want to go. So in simple terms, if they like who the players voted for all good and well but if not they decide it anyway.

And in Freeo's case, the club decided they would use the captaincy as a tool to try and keep their best player at their club. And rightfully so imo. As you agree with going off your previous post. But don't try and tell me the players voted him in as captain after last year when they voted Mundy in over Fyfe.

IMO and i am only guessing but I don't even think the players will get a vote this year about who is their captain as I think Dimma already knows who he wants. It seems to me that the coaching panel decide who they want as captain when we are in the position we are now as a club. I'm not saying I even disagree with that but I would rather hear that than the charade the club goes through.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Changing it up a bit this year. Balme thought the old way needed improving. He and the coaches will have more say this year.

PS from a very good source.
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[Francois Jackson]

Changing it up a bit this year. Balme thought the old way needed improving. He and the coaches will have more say this year.

PS from a very good source.
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Doesnt this prove that dimwit has nfi how to coach or develop players/staff.

ffs even people on here were calling for most of these changes.

the dumb stuff has gotta go

[Penelope]

what changes are you referring too?

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Changes to the way the leadership group is selected. Balme as General Manager - Football wants more of a say basically.

[Penelope]

people were asking for that?

[Assange Tiger 😎]

Did Neil pick the leadership group at Geelong too?

 

[big tone]

Changing it up a bit this year. Balme thought the old way needed improving. He and the coaches will have more say this year.

PS from a very good source.
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I'll believe you if the source is not one of WP's 3 sources. (Only joking WP 😜)

So the club are changing it up this year by giving the captaincy to Cotch again. Classic Tigers!!

Anyway thanks for the info 👍

[potsclub]

Probably means nothing, but check the team photo out. Usually captain sits next too coach?

[Yeahright]

Before the photo shoot, Tigers forward Sam Lloyd said the team was yet to discuss the on-field leadership group for 2017.

But whether Jack's back or not, Lloyd doesn't think it will make much difference.

"In my opinion I don't really mind if Jack's in the leadership group or not," Lloyd said.

"The title of 'leadership group' for him is not going to stop him talking or stop him leading.

If that's the case, what's the point in having a leadership group?

[one-eyed]

Players to have 'huge say' in Tigers' leadership group

AFL.com.au
Feb 21, 2017

ON-FIELD influence will be the priority when Richmond selects its leadership group this season, potentially opening the door for star forward Jack Riewoldt to return.

Riewoldt has been among the Tigers' most influential players over the past seven years, leading the club's goalkicking every year and winning All Australian selection in 2010 and 2015.

The demonstrative forward has not been part of the Tigers' leadership group for three years, however, after he was dropped at the start of 2014.

Curiously, last week he was seated next to coach Damien Hardwick in the team photo.

New head of football Neil Balme outlined the Tigers' approach to their leadership vote, saying the players would have a "huge say" in the 2017 structure.

He said the club, which opens its JLT Community Series campaign against Adelaide on Friday night, would prioritise on-field influence ahead of off-field leadership.

"Our key for 2017 – what we need to do more than anything else – is [to] be as good as we can be on the field," Balme told the club's website. 

"We should be saying, 'What do we do with our leadership to make sure we're influencing on-field more than anything else'?

"It doesn’t mean off-field’s not important, but it might be, right, exactly what do we need now?"

The Tigers' on-field focus could also open the door for club champion and 2016 All Australian Dustin Martin to be selected in the leadership group for the first time.

The 2016 leadership group included skipper Trent Cotchin, joint vice-captains Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric as well as star defender Alex Rance and half-forward Shane Edwards.

While the players will have a big say in their new leadership structure, Balme said the decision would involve coach Damien Hardwick, his assistant coaches, and CEO Brendon Gale.

"It’s very much a club issue. What does the club need? What do the coaches need?" Balme said.

"Certainly, the players will have a huge say. But it won’t just necessarily be a pure vote on who do you want to be captain, or in the leadership group. It’ll be who they want to run those parts of the program."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-21/players-to-have-huge-say-in-tigers-leadership-group

[Francois Jackson]

so in a matter of months we have gone from the players having the only say in the leadership group to now the whole club having a say.

As someone has alluded to IMO i think old mr dimwit had a big say in the previous leadership group, and left big jack out because he told some home truths about his coaching. Loved Morris which he was on record as saying so yep popped him in for a year, ditto edwards.

Now that big balme is running the show lets hope he can actually coach for the dud too.

[Diocletian]

Balme was a shyte coach...hopefully he'll delegate that to Caracella or McRae.... and Stevie J next year.....