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Ruanaidh

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2017, 09:19:27 PM »
Not a case of thinking it but knowing it. Every time we tried to implement that style we were absolutely shyte and just reverted back to our "safe" style of play.
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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2017, 09:22:11 PM »
Some of us here have been asking for this style of play for 4 years! I give Dimma no credit for 'seeing the light'. The introduction of Leppa and Caracalla has been key to the change in game philosophy and don't underestimate Balmy's influence on recruitment and team selection. I want us to snare Blake as our senior Coach before someone else does....goodbye Dimma.

In what universe is this true ??
Reality....I tell you what, lets play the 'Scientific Method'...your turn.

Is that like the rhythm method?
Unlike the former this method is problematic.

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2017, 09:59:08 PM »
Not sure we were shyte whenever we tried to play attacking footy...thought our best performance last year was actually the narrow loss to Footscay when we did exactly that.....
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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2017, 12:39:48 AM »
Not sure we were shyte whenever we tried to play attacking footy...thought our best performance last year was actually the narrow loss to Footscay when we did exactly that.....

You're right, we weren't always shyte but we had big issues implementing it at times and it did cost us games early in the year. It's funny though because that is the first example that popped into my head when TM said ...

Disagree

4 years ago we were playing fast aggressive footy, then we lost a final to Carlton got spooked and changed our game style to a defensive style. And we purposely played that way till this season. To say we were trying to play attacking footy over the past 3 seasons but couldn't is completely wrong and smh that some posters actually think that.


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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2017, 09:38:42 AM »
This is the same game plan we have tried to implement multiple times and is the style Hardwick has wanted to play for nearly 5 five years. To say it's all him wouldn't be fair though as he spent a lot of time blaming the players at his disposal when it was in fact the assistant coaches (to be fair was a bit of both). We now have some assistants that know what they're doing and we're playing the type of footy Dimma has always wanted :shh

So for five years he couldn't get his players to play the brand he wanted? Or was he forced by others to implement a brand that he didn't want?

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2017, 09:59:15 AM »
Hardwick's assistants were hand picked by himself until last year when Balme had a say in it.


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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2017, 02:27:41 PM »
Not sure we were shyte whenever we tried to play attacking footy...thought our best performance last year was actually the narrow loss to Footscay when we did exactly that.....

You're right, we weren't always shyte but we had big issues implementing it at times and it did cost us games early in the year. It's funny though because that is the first example that popped into my head when TM said ...

Disagree

4 years ago we were playing fast aggressive footy, then we lost a final to Carlton got spooked and changed our game style to a defensive style. And we purposely played that way till this season. To say we were trying to play attacking footy over the past 3 seasons but couldn't is completely wrong and smh that some posters actually think that.

Lets not try and rewrite history here - occasionally we played it but i very much doubt it was at the behest of dimma or the coaching staff, moreso the players imho, given the comments dimma made post game after the collingwood game a few years back(where we played some great attacking footy) when he mentioned "thats not what richmond football is all about, we don't want to play that type of footy" but yeah lets run with the theory that thats how he wanted to play all along  ::)

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2017, 04:41:16 PM »
Okay mate, you have your opinion and I'll keep my facts ::)

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2017, 05:14:50 PM »
Okay mate, you have your opinion and I'll keep my facts ::)
TM is factual when he quoted Hardwick after the Collingwood game. I also remember that distinctly. So your opinion coupled with "facts" is no better than his.
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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2017, 05:58:36 PM »
Okay mate, you have your opinion and I'll keep my facts ::)

Are they similar to the "facts" you made in your comments about Bo?  :wallywink

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2017, 07:53:24 PM »
Okay mate, you have your opinion and I'll keep my facts ::)
TM is factual when he quoted Hardwick after the Collingwood game. I also remember that distinctly. So your opinion coupled with "facts" is no better than his.

Chill out bro, I was obviously having a laugh with that comment

Okay mate, you have your opinion and I'll keep my facts ::)

Are they similar to the "facts" you made in your comments about Bo?  :wallywink

Fact is that is what he told me. Unless you're secretly Bo then I'm not sure how you would know nor why you care so much :wallywink

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On trend: Stats that show how your team is playing (afl site)
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2017, 02:28:41 AM »
On trend: Stats that show how your team is playing

Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
27 April 2017


RICHMOND

The biggest change in the Tigers' game this season has been their ability to press up the ground and force turnovers in their own forward half, rather than setting up attacks from half-back like they were forced to in 2016.

The key to this change has been the impact of small forwards Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Daniel Rioli, as well as the willingness of all other forwards to tackle and chase. Across the first four rounds, the Tigers ranked fourth for time in forward half (up from 15th in 2016), and seventh for forward half stoppages (16th in 2016). They were No.1 for forward-half intercepts (16th in 2016), converting those into an average of 43.5 points a game, also No.1 in the League.

The method Richmond is using to get the ball forward has also changed significantly, taking a gung-ho approach to their ball movement and playing on instinct. It results in occasional turnovers, but the risk is outweighed by the reward at this stage of the season and the coaches are excusing turnovers when the players have the right mindset.

The new style is summed up best when Dustin Martin is isolated inside 50 and given chances to win one-on-one contests because of the rapid ball-movement.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-26/on-trend-the-stats-that-show-how-your-team-is-playing

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2017, 05:06:25 PM »
Okay mate, you have your opinion and I'll keep my facts ::)
TM is factual when he quoted Hardwick after the Collingwood game. I also remember that distinctly. So your opinion coupled with "facts" is no better than his.

I'm also in violent agreement - I remember being completely aghast at Dimma comments. I also remember Jack comments on the game plan change in 2014 which made Dimma prickly...
"The money might have been better. But, at the end of the day, Richmond showed faith in me. It's only fair that now we're 18th on the ladder, I show the faith back in the club and do everything I can to put them in front. In the end, I'm stoked I made the decision to stay. I f***ing love this club”

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Re: Our new Gameplan
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2017, 06:13:20 PM »
Disagree

4 years ago we were playing fast aggressive footy, then we lost a final to Carlton got spooked and changed our game style to a defensive style. And we purposely played that way till this season. To say we were trying to play attacking footy over the past 3 seasons but couldn't is completely wrong and smh that some posters actually think that.



I heartily concur. The current plan is not the plan  of the last 3 years

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STATS CENTRAL: Tiger tackle train (VFL website)
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2017, 06:36:57 PM »
The new gameplan is mirrored at VFL as well:


STATS CENTRAL: Tiger tackle train

VFL website
27 April 2017


Would you believe it? Richmond’s AFL and Peter Jackson VFL teams are both undefeated to start 2017.

The 2016 AFL Tigers struggled after three consecutive elimination-final losses to finish 13th, while last year’s VFL Tigers started poorly before reeling off six consecutive wins to end the season in ninth position. But in 2017, the Tiger Train is rolling – the AFL team is 5-0 and the VFL team 2-0.

The key to the change in fortune is in the numbers.

Earlier this year, Richmond AFL senior coach Damien Hardwick began preaching pressure, pressure, pressure. The AFL Tigers had been one of the league’s poorer tackling teams for several years, while the VFL Tigers were ranked 12th in the competition for tackles per game in 2016.

The club’s VFL senior coach Craig McRae hinted at a trickle-down effect from the very top earlier this year.

“Our pressure around the football was something we finished last year really strongly with,” McRae said. “There have been some changes in philosophy, if you like, at AFL level and we’ll look to mirror those at VFL level, in relation to our pressure around the contests.”

That change in philosophy was evident in Richmond’s 25-point victory over Sandringham in Round 2.

The Tigers had fewer clearances, disposals and marks than the Zebras but pressured their opponents into error to generate more inside-50s and, subsequently, scoring chances. Corey Ellis and Jacob Townsend led the way with seven tackles each, while former Frankston hard-nut Brandon Wood had six and promising VFL-lister Tom Silvestro five.

In Richmond’s big Round 1 win against North Ballarat, Nathan Drummond – who unfortunately suffered an ACL injury against Sandringham – racked up nine tackles and the experienced Jacob Ballard (pictured, tackling) had five.

While the AFL Tigers rank 17th in the league for disposals per game and 18th for marks this year, they rank fourth for tackles. Hardwick’s game plan is built on desperate pressure in the contests and then quick, direct ball movement into an open forward line.

It’s a big change in style from what we’re used to seeing from Richmond – and McRae clearly has his players buying into it too.

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=54820810