Richmond vs Carlton - Round 1, 2017

[🏅Dooks]

Houli plays we lose.

I think Houli will play  - lets face it he is one of Hardwicks untouchables.

I also think we will be too good for Carlton with or without him .

I have a bad vibe with him but a better vibe without him.

Still Carlton $2.90 is overs and tempting

[Yeahright]

Houli plays we lose.

I don't know that it is going to be an automatic loss if that happens Dooks, but what Big T has said is right on the money.

If Hardwick is brave enough to play Butler then he has to be brave enough to play Markov and Macca, they are the form players. Drop Hunt, Houli

Hasn't Markov's form been pretty average/poor overall this pre season?

[🏅Dooks]

Houli plays we lose.

I don't know that it is going to be an automatic loss if that happens Dooks, but what Big T has said is right on the money.

If Hardwick is brave enough to play Butler then he has to be brave enough to play Markov and Macca, they are the form players. Drop Hunt, Houli

Hasn't Markov's form been pretty average/poor overall this pre season?

Yes but plays the new style and follows orders.

Houli is stuck in 2007 - with his Motorola Razr and double popped collars. He's yesterdays news and NOT our responsibility to accommodate.

[Yeahright]

I'm all for dropping Houli but I'm not sure how that makes Markov "the form player"?

[big tone]

I'm all for dropping Houli but I'm not sure how that makes Markov "the form player"?

I thought he was very good in the first game and solid enough in the second. And then played in the twos which I didn't see but that was more to make way for Houli. Same goes for McIntosh in the two senior games he played.
Going on FORM, they have both preformed better than Houli. Houli was putrid in that last game. His kicking is the best thing he has going for him but in the last 12 to 24 months it's gone to poo.

For me it's pretty simple- we are an average side and to get better we need to play players that can actually improve to improve us, and players like Houli, Grigg, Hunt and Hampson have no improvement left, so unless we want more of the same, we need to change and that means change personal. 

[Hard Roar Tiger]

His form and willingness to stick to the game plan was much better than what I saw from Bachar and he's half his age.

[🏅Dooks]

Houli is an absolute pootruck. #1 in the afl for turnovers. And every team knows when the ball is in his hands to get ready to counter attack, because the low hanging fruit is easy pickings.

Cant kick. Cant adhere to a gameplan. Wont man up. Wont tackle.

[Yeahright]

Yeah but he makes us multicultural

[Damo]

Yeah but he makes us multicultural

Give Chol that role instead

Or even Conca

[one-eyed]

MCG website is saying they are expecting a crowd of 70,000.

http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2017/march/carlton-v-richmond-mar-23

[Ruanaidh]

Yeah but he makes us multicultural

Yeah.....by 'tutoring' us in the virtue of the most destructive, hegemonic ideology on Earth . I will be happy to see the back of him for many reasons.

[one-eyed]

A reminder that this board is for footy discussion.

Anyway, the AFL site is predicting a much bigger crowd for Essendon vs Hawthorn.

Carlton v Richmond - MCG - 70,000
Collingwood v Western Bulldogs - MCG - 65,000
Sydney v Port Adelaide - SCG - 33,000
St Kilda v Melbourne - Etihad Stadium - 35,000
Gold Coast v Brisbane Lions - Metricon Stadium - 15,000
Essendon v Hawthorn - MCG - 80,000
North Melbourne v West Coast - Etihad Stadium - 27,000
Adelaide v Greater Western Sydney - Adelaide Oval - 42,000
Fremantle v Geelong - Domain Stadium - 34,000
TOTAL: 401,000

PREVIOUS RECORD: 371,212 set during round 15, 2013.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-20/crowd-attendance-record-set-to-be-smashed

[Hard Roar Tiger]

From. The Age

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2017-carlton-to-debut-at-least-four-players-for-opening-round-clash-against-richmond-20170320-gv29k1.html

Getting pumped.

[Ruanaidh]

A reminder that this board is for footy discussion.

Fair enuff

[one-eyed]

Richmond has announced it will select third-year forward Dan Butler to make his debut against the Blues on Thursday night, with intrigue also surrounding rookies Mabior Chol and Jason Castagna.

The Tigers have space to upgrade both Chol and Castagna, who have impressed this pre-season, with ruckman Shaun Hampson on the long-term injury list and Chris Yarran retired.

Midfielder Shaun Grigg said Richmond's pre-season had left the club's match committee with some tough decisions ahead of Thursday night.

"Young guys got opportunities and they played well … and boys playing in the VFL have been playing well in the pre-season also," Grigg said.

"So there's a lot of competition for spots, which is really healthy."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-20/carlton-weighing-up-debut-for-petrevskiseton