Richmond vs GWS Giants - Round 9, 2017

[WilliamPowell]

Richo on 3aw was saying our poor set-up for that kick-in after Bolton's touched point was a result of the review process. Apparently as Bolton's kick was originally called a goal, we had already set-up for the centre bounce to avoid a repeat of the Freo game. When the review came back saying it was touched, they ump threw the ball immediately to the Giants defender and there wasn't enough time to set-up defensively as we would've wanted to for the kick-in. Richo's view was that if the review overturns a decision then extra time should be allowed for everyone to reset before play is restarted.

While I get Richo's point. Facts are there was delay in the centre while it was being reviewed. Everyone knew it was being reviewed our leaders should have adjusted our that.

Secondly, the centre field umpire  (Schmidt) then had to run the ball back to the goal square =  further delay. We should have adjusted for that and didn't

[Jackstar 1960]

Interesting just watching Freo and Carlton
Freo guy goes over mark 5mm
50 metre penalty
Umpiring changes each day of each week
Where was it last night

[The Machine]

Richo on 3aw was saying our poor set-up for that kick-in after Bolton's touched point was a result of the review process. Apparently as Bolton's kick was originally called a goal, we had already set-up for the centre bounce to avoid a repeat of the Freo game. When the review came back saying it was touched, they ump threw the ball immediately to the Giants defender and there wasn't enough time to set-up defensively as we would've wanted to for the kick-in. Richo's view was that if the review overturns a decision then extra time should be allowed for everyone to reset before play is restarted.

While I get Richo's point. Facts are there was delay in the centre while it was being reviewed. Everyone knew it was being reviewed our leaders should have adjusted our that.

Secondly, the centre field umpire  (Schmidt) then had to run the ball back to the goal square =  further delay. We should have adjusted for that and didn't

I support what Richo said in this instance. After the review time should be allowed so teams can set up in a normal situation.

[one-eyed]

1. The Tigers were stiff, but you make your own luck

Yes they were unlucky to lose another heartbreaker, but for the second week running, the Richmond players only have themselves to blame. The visitors dominated every aspect of the match against the Giants, but failed their biggest test when the pressure lifted in the final term. Jason Castagna, from 40m out, then the experienced Dustin Martin, from even closer, missed simple set shots in the first two minutes of the last quarter that would have put the Tigers up by more than five goals. Their structures then failed them again in the dying stages after the Giants had stormed back into the game when, after a Shai Bolton goal was overturned by a score review, Richmond failed to have anyone on the mark for Nathan Wilson's kick in. It allowed the GWS defender – one of the league's best kicks – to play on and launch a 70m bomb to the centre square, where an intelligent punch from Phil Davis saw the footy end up with Jeremy Cameron, who slotted the winner. Heath Shaw then set up the home side perfectly to defend for the remaining 59 seconds – something the Tigers didn't do last week – and the result was another four points gone begging for the yellow and black. - Adam Curley

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-21/eight-things-we-learned-from-round-nine

[one-eyed]

From Robbo's "likes and dislikes" column today:

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There are questions everywhere for Richmond after another close loss and while Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Damien Hardwick have to cop the blame, an umpire on Saturday afternoon should be under just as much heat.

WHAT I DON’T LIKE

1. Bad luck or bad management?

Bad luck dogs Richmond, but this was more than that. The players and the coaches box failed Richmond in the final 90 seconds — again. It continues to seriously harm their season. The Tigers have lost their past three games by five, two and three points. If they had won those games, they would be a game clear on top of the ladder. Coulda, woulda, but didn’t. Agree with coach Damien Hardwick that the Tigers are much improved and challenging the best teams, but the past three weeks tells us the coach and the players fail when the game has to be won.

2. So what went wrong?

Richmond allowed Nathan Wilson to play on and gain metres. They knew Wilson would go long down the middle. They knew someone would try to knock it on. So why weren’t there more Tigers at that contest and behind that contest? Why was there five Giants on two Tigers when Jeremy Cameron kicked the winning goal? Why was there three loose Tigers in their forward 50m when Wilson kicked out? What’s frustrating is the score review gave them time to set up — the Giants used that time wisely — and still there were failings. Coaches and leaders were to blame — yet again.

3. And it wasn’t just at the end

The Tigers kicked five behinds in the final quarter, and three of them were close to gimmes. Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Jason Castagna all missed set shots. They all helped Richmond lose the game. If Dusty wants a million dollars he has to kick those goals. If Riewoldt is the leader we want him to be, he has to kick those goals. If Castagna wants to cement his spot in the team, he kicks those goals.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinson-lists-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-9-action/news-story/1401916b200116a60fa34c32f21fccaf

[WilliamPowell]

From Robbo's "likes and dislikes" column today:


3. And it wasn’t just at the end

The Tigers kicked five behinds in the final quarter, and three of them were close to gimmes. Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Jason Castagna all missed set shots. They all helped Richmond lose the game. If Dusty wants a million dollars he has to kick those goals. If Riewoldt is the leader we want him to be, he has to kick those goals. If Castagna wants to cement his spot in the team, he kicks those goals.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinson-lists-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-9-action/news-story/1401916b200116a60fa34c32f21fccaf

Cannot argue with that one

Kick those 2 "gimmes" at the start of the last and the games done 

[MintOnLamb]

Mundy's spoil on Riewoldt, chopped his arms, crunched him head high, I kind of missed what happened there, was it called a free kick and play to advantage?
If he had broken Jacks jaw = 4-6 weeks

Also when Mundy practically picked up and threw (was it short) out of the marking contest is that ok?

Plus the blatant push in the back to Rance not paid?

But fact of the matter is we didnt kick goals when we should have.

[Harry]

Doesn't matter, Dimma's proud of the boys.  As long as no ones feelings are hurt and we don't suffer from any micro aggressions.  That's all that's important at RFC

[eliminator]

From Robbo's "likes and dislikes" column today:


3. And it wasn’t just at the end

The Tigers kicked five behinds in the final quarter, and three of them were close to gimmes. Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Jason Castagna all missed set shots. They all helped Richmond lose the game. If Dusty wants a million dollars he has to kick those goals. If Riewoldt is the leader we want him to be, he has to kick those goals. If Castagna wants to cement his spot in the team, he kicks those goals.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinson-lists-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-9-action/news-story/1401916b200116a60fa34c32f21fccaf

Cannot argue with that one

Kick those 2 "gimmes" at the start of the last and the games done 

Totally agree with you WP.

[Francois Jackson]

From Robbo's "likes and dislikes" column today:


3. And it wasn’t just at the end

The Tigers kicked five behinds in the final quarter, and three of them were close to gimmes. Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Jason Castagna all missed set shots. They all helped Richmond lose the game. If Dusty wants a million dollars he has to kick those goals. If Riewoldt is the leader we want him to be, he has to kick those goals. If Castagna wants to cement his spot in the team, he kicks those goals.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-mark-robinson-lists-his-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-9-action/news-story/1401916b200116a60fa34c32f21fccaf

Cannot argue with that one

Kick those 2 "gimmes" at the start of the last and the games done 

of course you would focus on the set shops missed WP, with good reason, but is there any chance you could focus on the coaching staff as well for once?

should we really be subjected to amateur hour, after this dud has had 8 years to mould this group and install some toughness?

You recruit and then develop these guys so if you cant prepare them after 8 years then what does that tell you?

[Owl]

tells you the message isn't getting through their thick skulls

[Francois Jackson]

Yes no issue that we certainly have dumb players that most likely didnt pass year 7, but is he hard enough with them.

e.g at the selection table.

Bellis, Houli fmd all of them should be put on notice. Are they fit enough?

[Ruanaidh]

Yes no issue that we certainly have dumb players that most likely didnt pass year 7, but is he hard enough with them.

e.g at the selection table.

Bellis, Houli fmd all of them should be put on notice. Are they fit enough?

Watch the behind the goal shot when Dylan Shiel waltzed through 5 midfielders to deliver it to the goal square for a mark, then goal. It shows our lack of physical pressure and run and bad positioning. I exploded when I saw it.

[Yeahright]

Yesssss guys love the positivity 

Saw it coming as soon as the posts before this started

[Yeahright]

The review delaying our set up is a cop out. Surely if we were adequately set up to not allow a repeat of the week before we would have had 10 defenders in GWS F50. How did we end up with only 3-4 behind the contest?