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Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« on: March 19, 2018, 03:30:27 AM »
ROBBO SAYS:
Really depends on what like you in a footballer. Dangerfield is a contested ball animal and kicks goals. Dusty was all the rage, but it was a strange umpiring decision not to give Dangerfield votes in Round 22 which denied him sharing the Brownlow Medal. Has redefined beast mode.

1. Patrick Dangerfield

2. Dustin Martin
ROBBO SAYS:
Not that you can't like Dusty. Was the No.2 contested ball winner behind Dangerfield and kicked 37 goals in '17 and delivered when it mattered most. An enchanting footballer and, Buddy aside, the most watchable.
The Numbers say:
Kicked the second-most goals of any midfielder and won more of the ball in the forward half than any player.

3. Nathan Fyfe

4. Alex Rance

Richmond
Position: Defender
SuperCoach Price: $492,300
ROBBO SAYS:
Can be theatrical but there's no denying his standing in the game. Going back four decades, there's Dench, Knights, Glendinning, Langford, Silvagni, Jakovich, Scarlett, Fletcher and Leppitsch - and Rance is in that group.
The Numbers say:
Ranked second for intercept possessions and was the second-best player in defensive one-on-one contests.

5. Lance Franklin
6. Gary Ablett
7. Josh Kelly
8. Joe Daniher
9. Joel Selwood
10. Josh Kennedy (Eagles)

11. Rory Sloane
12. Marcus Bontempelli
13. Josh Kennedy (Swans)
14. Tom Mitchell
15. Patrick Cripps
16. Scott Pendlebury

17. Trent Cotchin
Richmond
Position: Midfielder
SuperCoach Price: $555,000
ROBBO SAYS:
Hats off to the Tigers skipper. Inspiring in 2017 because he went from ball winner to quality leader. There was a bit of Selwood about how Cotchin went about it in September. Don't laugh. Watch the finals series again.
The Numbers say:
Rated above average for contested possessions, clearances, metres gained and goals.

18. Eddie Betts
19. Patrick Ryder
20. Dayne Zorko

21. Michael Hurley
22. Robbie Gray
23. Jeremy McGovern
24. Toby Greene
25. Ben Brown
26. Luke Parker
27. Luke Shuey
28. Zach Merrett
29. Rory Laird
30. Max Gawn

31. Dayne Beams
32. Dylan Shiel
33. Tom Lynch (Suns)
34. Michael Hibberd
35. Matt Crouch
36. Lachie Neale
37. Sam Jacobs
38. Isaac Heeney
39. Charlie Dixon
40. Chad Wingard

41. Steven May
42. Callan Ward
43. Ollie Wines
44. Steele Sidebottom
45. Elliot Yeo
46. Clayton Oliver
47. Bryce Gibbs

48. Jack Riewoldt

Richmond
Position: Forward
SuperCoach Price: $455,200
ROBBO SAYS:
The lone key forward in the premiership team shows how much Jack has come as a footballer. Big responsibility and he accepted it. and his GF was huge.
The Numbers say:
Rated above average for goals, score assists, score involvements. Was ninth for total scoreboard impact.

49. Mitch Duncan
50. Taylor Walker

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/herald-sun-chief-football-writer-mark-robinson-names-his-preseason-top-50-players-in-the-afl/news-story/635b94c9bf4422acb4e9c8876358dd06

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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 03:32:04 AM »
Herald Sun chief football writer Mark Robinson names his pre-season top 50 players in the AFL

EDITOR ON DUTY: MARK ROBINSON
March 19, 2018


AS the game adopts radical change in terms of how you score, combined with Geelong’s midfield expansion, Patrick Dangerfield could win the Coleman Medal this year.

He’s about $34 if you’re keen, but that’s an aside.

His ability to kick goals is why Dangerfield is No. 1 in the top 50 and Dustin Martin is No.2.

Everyone could argue for hours about who is the better player and by argument’s end, there won’t be a united voice.

There are seducing arguments for both players.

Even the great Leigh Matthews was moved so much by Martin’s season last year that he declared Martin had compiled the best season of any player of all time.

Surely ‘‘Lethal’’ was joshing.

Because he would know. In 1977 Matthews had 658 disposals and kicked 91.59 playing as a midfield/forward for Hawthorn — and didn’t win the Brownlow Medal.

Martin last year had 744 disposals and kicked 37.29 playing midfield/forward — and won every fair dinkum award imaginable.

There’s an enchantment about Martin and about Richmond after the historic premiership, and as we sit here with the season starting on Thursday, Martin is the face, the hero and the marketing king of the AFL.

In some respects Dangerfield’s season seems to have been blotted somewhat by Martin’s bright lights.

Anyway, that was last season and this is the new season.

The arrival of 33-year-old Gary Ablett at Geelong — which is a different fantasy altogether — has prompted discussion about when Ablett Snr played forward as a 33-year-old.

That was in 1995 and Gazza Snr kicked 122.85. The next season, as a 34-year-old and his final season of football, he kicked 69.31 from 17 games.

Junior can’t and won’t do what Senior did because they’re different players. Senior was an incredible mark and scoring options and tactics have changed substantially

Gazza will play a lot more midfield than many suspect, meaning it’s more than likely Dangerfield will increase his forward 50m minutes.

And more minutes for Dangerfield means more goals.

He kicked 45.32 from 24 games in 2017, playing 74 per cent midfield and 26 per cent forward.

That could expand to 60, 70 maybe 80 goals if time spent in the arc was raised to, say, 50 per cent.

Martin’s breakdown was 71 per cent and 29 per cent.

Dangerfield’s marking is his weapon and, nit-picking here, that’s one aspect he has over Martin.

Martin would also kick more goals with more time, but Dangerfield has that one extra avenue.

Both players are bulls at the ball, and perhaps Dangerfield is a touch more frantic, but in the same argument, Martin is a better, more fluent kick and, as David King noted recently, plays with more angles and more swivel above the shoulders.

Anyway, we’ll find out.

The top 10 has the usual suspects — Franklin, Rance, Josh Kennedy from West Coast and Selwood. Some have said Selwood has peaked and he is now descending, but I disagree. The 10-year champ will escape the tag this year and will be enormous.

Nathan Fyfe (No. 3) could well be the No. 1 by season’s end.

The bolters are Joe Daniher (No. 8 ), Tom Mitchell (No. 14), Patrick Cripps (No. 15) who will also play more forward minutes this year, Ben Brown (No. 25) and a fit Max Gawn is in the top 30.

Sydney’s Isaac Heeney and Port Adelaide’s Ollie Wines — who will be the next Port captain — are speculative, but I have confidence they can take their game to new level. And Clayton Oliver is in the top 50 as simple as that.

Crows captain Taylor Walker gets smacked around sometimes by commentators, but there’s no denying his ability to score and assist. He’s at No. 50 behind Franklin, Daniher, Ben Brown, Tom Lynch from the Suns, Charlie Dixon and Jack Riewoldt as key forwards, but he absolutely deserves a spot.

Maybe I rate North Melbourne’s Brown too highly, albeit he’s the go-to target which means he gets more opportunity. But gee, he’s a good contested mark of the ball and kicks goals.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/herald-sun-chief-football-writer-mark-robinson-names-his-preseason-top-50-players-in-the-afl/news-story/635b94c9bf4422acb4e9c8876358dd06

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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2018, 04:45:32 AM »
Long call but I reckon Jack Graham will crack into the top 50 this year. :shh

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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2018, 09:32:49 AM »
Finally a top 50 with Jack Riewoldt in it.

His play last year, let alone in the grandfinal, was instrumental in a premiership for a team that was nowhere near it in 2016. And his play has been of a high standard for a long time.

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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 09:59:51 AM »
Daniher is a little overrated at this stage of his career...
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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 10:01:52 AM »
Finally a top 50 with Jack Riewoldt in it.

His play last year, let alone in the grandfinal, was instrumental in a premiership for a team that was nowhere near it in 2016. And his play has been of a high standard for a long time.

Would you rather Ben Brown plodding around or Jack tackling Laird on the wing in a GF??

Still rated too low.
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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 04:06:37 PM »
The only area Fyfe and Dangerfield have Dusty covered is marking .

However no one scares the opposition more than Martin .
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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2018, 06:15:23 PM »
Dusty is a big game premiership player and Norm Smith medallist. Until Danger or Fyfe win one, they're behind Dusty.
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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 06:39:16 PM »
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Re: Robbo's Top 50 - Has Dangerfield at #1 ahead of Dusty
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 07:48:43 PM »
Finally a top 50 with Jack Riewoldt in it.

His play last year, let alone in the grandfinal, was instrumental in a premiership for a team that was nowhere near it in 2016. And his play has been of a high standard for a long time.

Would you rather Ben Brown plodding around or Jack tackling Laird on the wing in a GF??

Still rated too low.

JR way too low. Has kicked 50+ goals since 2010 and only missed out barely last year because the team sucked. He has constantly had his development messed around with like told to play up the ground to try and develop TV more. Thrown on the wing, pinch hitting in defence  etc etc. JR is a star and it is a true testament to his footy smarts and work ethic that he has won the Coleman twice