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Re: Shane Tuck set to return to Richmond training/Tuck: Mellow & Back (Merged)
« Reply #330 on: October 26, 2009, 10:24:06 PM »
I agree the players don't jell on the field and we played as 18 individuals but actually we played as we trained in the end. That was one of the problems. Flaws in our game weren't being addressed  :-\.
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Re: Shane Tuck set to return to Richmond training/Tuck: Mellow & Back (Merged)
« Reply #331 on: October 26, 2009, 11:49:21 PM »
MT the main problem down thier is the players dont Jell together
They dont know each others game & dont play for each other
they play as they train pushing vans across ovals  :rollin
shows out by a mile when Richo leads & gets ignored

I'm normally onside with you on most things TM but I must say this - it also shows out by a mile when the guys stream through the middle and Richo leads to a deep pocket.

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Re: Shane Tuck's ear
« Reply #332 on: November 04, 2009, 02:27:43 PM »
Tucky had a replacement eardrum put in apparently over the offseason. He still had cotton wool in the ear to protect it at training today.
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« Reply #333 on: April 06, 2010, 10:58:04 PM »
The $600,000 question: Why can't Shane Tuck and Jordan McMahon get a game?

  * Mark Stevens
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  * April 07, 2010


WHY can't Shane Tuck and Jordan McMahon get a game for Richmond? That's the question on the lips of fans as the Tigers cry out for a saviour.

SO MUCH for the footy chestnut "you're only as good as your last game".

Shane Tuck's last game for Richmond was good. Very good, in fact.

In the Tigers' final game of the pre-season, against Collingwood at Visy Park, Tuck had 33 disposals and 14 of the contested variety.

The 28-year-old also featured in six score involvements, the most of any Tiger.

To cap it off, Tuck was the top-ranked SuperCoach player on the ground with 153 points.

Yet Tuck was missing in the first two rounds as the undermanned and inept Tigers were thrashed by Carlton and the Western Bulldogs.

Who was the best performer this week? Vote now and win.

Jordan McMahon, 27, who also played against the Pies that day and helped himself to 28 disposals, is also absent from the Richmond side.

McMahon is in the final year of a three-year contract and will be paid about $330,000 this year.

It is fair to estimate Tuck, a senior regular through most of Terry Wallace's reign and runner-up in the 2008 best-and-fairest, would be on $250,000-plus in his final season.

That is about $600,000 (the equivalent of one elite player) tied up in a pair seemingly destined to see out most of the year with Coburg Tigers in the VFL.

Richmond is adamant it has not put a line through the names of Tuck and McMahon, and they may yet return this week against a battle-hardened Sydney.

But right now, they must feel like the most unwanted men in Australia.

Tuck, in particular, would add much needed grunt and strength to a team too easily pushed off the ball against the Bulldogs.

As much as he keeps winning it, insiders say there are slows on Tuck because he struggles to follow instructions, which are becoming more detailed by the year.

He has, also, for a long time had a weakness for turning the ball over, but he has had plenty of Tiger mates over the years - and the trend continues.

You can sympathise with new coach Damien Hardwick's dilemma. He did not recruit Tuck or McMahon and is hell-bent on playing youngsters, but the supporters want to see competitive football.

The Tigers are uncompetitive, underlined by a 3.7 to 1.0 final term against the Dogs that could have been much uglier.

The Tigers can't get their hands on the ball.

Their average differential in the first two rounds for disposals is a whopping minus 115. The next worst, Adelaide, is minus 60.

The Tigers' average kicking efficiency is 7.3 per cent worse than its opposition. Again, 16th in the competition.

Perhaps the most telling stat is Richmond has had on average 22 fewer inside-50s.

Couple that with the fact the Tigers have scored a goal only 19 per cent of the times once inside 50, and you have a recipe for a flogging.

The Tigers have conceded the most points from turnovers: 150 points.

Almost half of Richmond's turnovers have come in the defensive half, a sure-fire way to have your pants pulled down.

Keeping Tuck out may be good for the long term, but it will test the patience of Tigers fans who have already been forced to live with applauding the smallest of things, such as a Trent Cotchin sweeping handball or a Jayden Post leap.

Is it time to stop the bleeding?

 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/the-600000-question-why-cant-shane-tuck-and-jordan-mcmahon-get-a-game/story-e6frf9if-1225850677690
« Last Edit: April 07, 2010, 01:01:43 AM by one-eyed »
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #334 on: April 06, 2010, 11:01:18 PM »
Gee are we travelling that bad :help, have to agree though, we need to stop the bleeding and give the youth time to develop IMO.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #335 on: April 06, 2010, 11:07:19 PM »
The $600,000 question: Why can't Shane Tuck and Jordan McMahon get a game?

Because a salary doesn't always equate to a players worth?  ::)

If Mike Stevens or whatever barrage of tiger faithful he thinks reckon McMahon and Tuck not being in the team is the reason we cannot win or compete in a game they need their heads seriously checked.  Tuck would barely make a difference, and McMahon would not make a difference.

The $600,000 question should be, why the stuff are those two players earning a collective $600k.  :banghead  

Keep playing the kids and the senior players who actually have something to offer please RFC before we play these list cloggers.
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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #336 on: April 06, 2010, 11:16:27 PM »
The kicker is, that if Hardwick could get either of them playing half decent football this year, then there may be a chance that we can trade one or both of them for a draft pick... or compensation from them going to the gold coast. By completely leaving them out of the side we are essentially giving up on them entirely, they may as well go on an overseas trip for the rest of the year.

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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #337 on: April 06, 2010, 11:25:19 PM »
The kicker is, that if Hardwick could get either of them playing half decent football this year, then there may be a chance that we can trade one or both of them for a draft pick... or compensation from them going to the gold coast. By completely leaving them out of the side we are essentially giving up on them entirely, they may as well go on an overseas trip for the rest of the year.
Not really, clubs already know we are going to delist them, so why trade for them when they can pick them up for free?
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Shane Tuck's last game for Richmond was good. Very good, in fact.

In the Tigers' final game of the pre-season, against Collingwood at Visy Park, Tuck had 33 disposals and 14 of the contested variety.


If you are going to write pointless articles at least try and get your facts straight

Richmond's final practice game was against ESSENDON at MORWELL you twit and Tuck DID NOT play

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he's just trying to wind up tigers fans, can almost picture the flog smiling whilst writing this puff piece. Its all part of the media's systematic attack on weak prey. First this, this week to plant the seed, then another after next weeks flogging all in anticipation for a real 'canning by media' if we lose to melbourne in round 4, they will be looking to sell a lot of papers that week! You better believe they have strategies and play games like this. These guys are worse than used car salesmen!!

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Ill be straight up and say I am a Tuck fan.  He is hard as a coffin nail, wins tons of ball, contests ball ups/throw ins when needed, takes a good grab and can slot a surprise goal.  A lot of folks bitch bout turn overs, yeah, well he is our in and under bloke and is usually being gang tackled so it goes  but I still think he has a lot of plus about him.  He is a strong bastard, and we need him out there to stop the free ride the opposition midfield is getting.  Hopefully with some TLC he has ironed out some of the bad habits people are unhappy with,  but Tuck has been a stalwart of our club getting battered in there for years for our jumper, he literally does bleed for the tigers.
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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #341 on: April 07, 2010, 10:34:09 AM »
The kicker is, that if Hardwick could get either of them playing half decent football this year, then there may be a chance that we can trade one or both of them for a draft pick... or compensation from them going to the gold coast. By completely leaving them out of the side we are essentially giving up on them entirely, they may as well go on an overseas trip for the rest of the year.
Not really, clubs already know we are going to delist them, so why trade for them when they can pick them up for free?
If he can get them playing proper football then a club who wants the player can trade a pick they are not going to use to ensure they get him. It's effectively free for them anyway, but we'll still use that pick. The fact that the AFL brought in the rule that you don't have to use a pick that was part of a trade has resulted in much more player movement between clubs.

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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #342 on: April 07, 2010, 10:41:45 AM »
The kicker is, that if Hardwick could get either of them playing half decent football this year, then there may be a chance that we can trade one or both of them for a draft pick... or compensation from them going to the gold coast. By completely leaving them out of the side we are essentially giving up on them entirely, they may as well go on an overseas trip for the rest of the year.

Thing is no one was interested in Tuck last off season and a year older you would have to say that unless people really think the draft is compromised it would be unlikely that he would generate any interest.

McMahon I couldn't give a stuff if he rots - to me he typifies everything wrong with us - soft and ordinary skills much of the time. If its a choice between him playing to be a very slim chance of being picked up or him being made an example of so the younger blokes know that unreliable footskills and zero toughness are unacceptable then I'd go for the latter.

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Re: The $600,000 question
« Reply #343 on: April 07, 2010, 10:51:45 AM »
The kicker is, that if Hardwick could get either of them playing half decent football this year, then there may be a chance that we can trade one or both of them for a draft pick... or compensation from them going to the gold coast. By completely leaving them out of the side we are essentially giving up on them entirely, they may as well go on an overseas trip for the rest of the year.
Thing is no one was interested in Tuck last off season and a year older you would have to say that unless people really think the draft is compromised it would be unlikely that he would generate any interest.

McMahon I couldn't give a stuff if he rots - to me he typifies everything wrong with us - soft and ordinary skills much of the time. If its a choice between him playing to be a very slim chance of being picked up or him being made an example of so the younger blokes know that unreliable footskills and zero toughness are unacceptable then I'd go for the latter.
I do understand that, however no one was interested last year based on the year of football they'd just had, they saw deficiencies they didn't want. My point is that if Hardwick can work on these deficiencies get them to play their team role then it may cause a team that needs a more senior player injected into the side to reconsider. The fact Tuck got dropped for the last part of the season would have scared a lot of teams away, ruined any trade value he had. If we could play him as a forward for the year and get a decent result from it then again, it may make someone notice. The fact that they're part of a new structure could bring out something that makes someone notice. As a bonus you get a harder body that can protect the kids from getting smashed at the stoppages all year and could damage their longevity.

I am mainly talking about Tuck though, I'm in the same boat as you with McMahon. The fact Tuck got 133 or so Champion Data points in a practice game against Collingwood during the preseason shows he can play and not turn it over too much. Would probably be better value than Luke Ball to be honest.

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Ill be straight up and say I am a Tuck fan.  He is hard as a coffin nail, wins tons of ball, contests ball ups/throw ins when needed, takes a good grab and can slot a surprise goal.  A lot of folks bitch bout turn overs, yeah, well he is our in and under bloke and is usually being gang tackled so it goes  but I still think he has a lot of plus about him.  He is a strong bastard, and we need him out there to stop the free ride the opposition midfield is getting.  Hopefully with some TLC he has ironed out some of the bad habits people are unhappy with,  but Tuck has been a stalwart of our club getting battered in there for years for our jumper, he literally does bleed for the tigers.

l share your thoughts exactly, Tuck is the man we are missing for the hard ball. Midfielders are not protected anymore
Whisper  ;D Dont be surprised if he walks out on the club soon  ;D & l hope he does cause if they didnot want him then they should have let him go.
But this is Richmond we are talking about which is very well known for damaging players careers or holding them up  ;D or just plain breaking them

l agree with the article, $600,000 of players wasted & Tuck who is easy in our top 10  :lol