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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 09:29:34 PM »
Vale Bob Hawke

One of the reasons I grew up loving politics

He made it fun, he made it interesting, he made a difference
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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 01:11:14 PM »
Where;s old mate '65...still in mourning until Don's Party '19 tomorrow night.?.. :shh
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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 04:15:14 PM »
IMHO Hawke was our greatest peacetime PM. He inherited an Australia that had been driven into the ground and totally modernised and transformed it both socially and economically for the long-term benefit of the nation. He brought people together. He believed in a self-confident can-do Australia that could be influential on the international stage and rejected cultural cringe.

Thanks Bob. RIP.



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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2019, 08:00:45 PM »
RIP Bob Hawke.

He and Keating transformed Australia whilst the Liberal Party were burning leaders at every opportunity.
What we take for granted today in this country re: transforming the economy was done by the Hawke and Keating Labor govts.

Following their defeat the Howard govts rode on the coat tails of the hard reforms that the above 2 did, Australia if not for these reforms would still be the back water, closed economy that Liberal wanted to retain.
Let that sink in for all the puffed up RWNJS around here.


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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2019, 10:38:29 PM »
RIP Bob Hawke.

He and Keating transformed Australia whilst the Liberal Party were burning leaders at every opportunity.
What we take for granted today in this country re: transforming the economy was done by the Hawke and Keating Labor govts.

Following their defeat the Howard govts rode on the coat tails of the hard reforms that the above 2 did, Australia if not for these reforms would still be the back water, closed economy that Liberal wanted to retain.
Let that sink in for all the puffed up RWNJS around here.
You need to really look up the history of Australian politics to see what the Liberal party accomplished to modernize Australia through most of the 20th century mate because you obviously haven't bothered at all. Especially through the Menzies era, there are many things that many think Labor pioneered later which were actually Liberal ideas or should I say more specifically Menzie ideas.
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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2019, 06:04:03 AM »
RIP Bob Hawke.

He and Keating transformed Australia whilst the Liberal Party were burning leaders at every opportunity.
What we take for granted today in this country re: transforming the economy was done by the Hawke and Keating Labor govts.

Following their defeat the Howard govts rode on the coat tails of the hard reforms that the above 2 did, Australia if not for these reforms would still be the back water, closed economy that Liberal wanted to retain.
Let that sink in for all the puffed up RWNJS around here.
You need to really look up the history of Australian politics to see what the Liberal party accomplished to modernize Australia through most of the 20th century mate because you obviously haven't bothered at all. Especially through the Menzies era, there are many things that many think Labor pioneered later which were actually Liberal ideas or should I say more specifically Menzie ideas.


Like getting us into the Vietnam war?

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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2019, 06:15:54 AM »
RIP Bob Hawke.

He and Keating transformed Australia whilst the Liberal Party were burning leaders at every opportunity.
What we take for granted today in this country re: transforming the economy was done by the Hawke and Keating Labor govts.

Following their defeat the Howard govts rode on the coat tails of the hard reforms that the above 2 did, Australia if not for these reforms would still be the back water, closed economy that Liberal wanted to retain.
Let that sink in for all the puffed up RWNJS around here.
You need to really look up the history of Australian politics to see what the Liberal party accomplished to modernize Australia through most of the 20th century mate because you obviously haven't bothered at all. Especially through the Menzies era, there are many things that many think Labor pioneered later which were actually Liberal ideas or should I say more specifically Menzie ideas.


Like getting us into the Vietnam war?


and just for balance one good thing he did...


He started the Prime Minister's 11 cricket matches.


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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2019, 07:22:19 AM »
RIP Bob Hawke.

He and Keating transformed Australia whilst the Liberal Party were burning leaders at every opportunity.
What we take for granted today in this country re: transforming the economy was done by the Hawke and Keating Labor govts.

Following their defeat the Howard govts rode on the coat tails of the hard reforms that the above 2 did, Australia if not for these reforms would still be the back water, closed economy that Liberal wanted to retain.
Let that sink in for all the puffed up RWNJS around here.
You need to really look up the history of Australian politics to see what the Liberal party accomplished to modernize Australia through most of the 20th century mate because you obviously haven't bothered at all. Especially through the Menzies era, there are many things that many think Labor pioneered later which were actually Liberal ideas or should I say more specifically Menzie ideas.


Like getting us into the Vietnam war?
Are you saying he started the Vietnam war?

How about little things like abolishing the white Australia policy? How about getting Indigenous Australians the right to vote? I know they are minor compared to floating the dollar but many don’t think so.......
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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2019, 07:54:24 AM »


Like getting us into the Vietnam war?
Are you saying he started the Vietnam war?

How about little things like abolishing the white Australia policy? How about getting Indigenous Australians the right to vote? I know they are minor compared to floating the dollar but many don’t think so.......


How very Liberal of you. A complete distortion of what I said.


I expected better of you.


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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2019, 07:57:21 AM »

How about little things like abolishing the white Australia policy? How about getting Indigenous Australians the right to vote? I know they are minor compared to floating the dollar but many don’t think so.......


This process started in the 1850s. Another distortion of the facts.

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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2019, 08:00:37 AM »

Are you saying he started the Vietnam war?

How about little things like abolishing the white Australia policy? How about getting Indigenous Australians the right to vote? I know they are minor compared to floating the dollar but many don’t think so.......


Funny I thought it was Harold Holt who abolished the white Australia policy.


More distortion and lies?


Are you thinking of running for parliament?

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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2019, 10:06:55 AM »

Are you saying he started the Vietnam war?

How about little things like abolishing the white Australia policy? How about getting Indigenous Australians the right to vote? I know they are minor compared to floating the dollar but many don’t think so.......


Funny I thought it was Harold Holt who abolished the white Australia policy.


More distortion and lies?


Are you thinking of running for parliament?

The beginnings of its abolishment was during the Menzies era. It didn’t just happen overnight. Anyway, Holt was a liberal so your argument is pretty weak. Bottom line is that many social changes that made Australia a modern society were Liberal changes. Labor are fixated on a few social reforms they did and think they have a monopoly in that area. Far from the truth.
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Re: Hawke dead
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 01:42:45 PM »

How about little things like abolishing the white Australia policy? How about getting Indigenous Australians the right to vote? I know they are minor compared to floating the dollar but many don’t think so.......

And selling iron internationally, to other countries a

Oops sorry...very bad example  ;D
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