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What's our best ruck combo?
« on: August 01, 2019, 04:44:20 PM »
Hardwick said Ivan Soldo, who has back-filled for Nankervis since May, had been “really good” and removing him from the ruck position would be a tough decision.

“Whether we go by a ruck-by committee approach going forward for the remainder of the year is to be seen,” he said.

“Soldo vs the talls, [Nankervis] vs possibly the smaller-type ruckmen.” Soldo stands at a commanding 2.04m  while Nankervis is slightly shorter at 1.99 metres.

"That's something that we've now got up our sleeve that we're really excited about." - Damien Hardwick

The extent of Nankervis’ injury has meant he couldn’t have been “combative” in the ruck contest, Hardwick said, and it was in the club’s best interests to give him another week off.

“Trying to tell [Nankervis] that was pretty tough as you can imagine. He’s a very competitive man who wants to play,” Hardwick said.

“He understands where we are at the moment and he also understands how important he is to the makeup of our side.”

Nankervis will play his third straight VFL game this weekend, following a lengthy absence since round eight due to an adductor injury. But his return to the senior side for the clash against Carlton is set to shake up the ruck division.

Source: The Age & AFL website
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Personally I am liking this idea. Soldo has been good so far. Not great, but clearly improving with more games. Nank is a hard competitor and better around the ground, but doesn't have the height and size that Soldo does...

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How much difference will Nank's return make? (afl site)
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2019, 01:39:44 PM »
How much difference will Nank's return make?

Marc McGowan
afl.com.au
6 Aug 2019


Richmond's premiership ruckman Toby Nankervis is primed to make his senior return against Carlton on Sunday after three VFL appearances.

Ivan Soldo has shouldered much of the ruck load in Nankervis' long, adductor-related absence, with support from Mabior Chol, who is also proving a threat up forward.

A much healthier Tigers team will greet 'Nank', who promises to strengthen further a line-up that is peaking at the right end of the year.

Richmond's ruckmen: R20, 2017 to R20, 2019

PLAYER           RATING  DISP.  HITOUTS  H.O.WIN%  CLEAR.  SCORE-INV.  INT.MARKS  INT.POSS

Toby Nankervis   11.9    15.9     24.8        41.8%         3.2          4.1              1.4              2.9
Ivan Soldo          10.2      8.6     25.5        43.2%         2.2          3.0              0.7              2.2
Mabior Chol        11.0      9.1       8.0        27.1%         1.4          4.7              0.9              1.7

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-06/stats-files-who-might-steal-jezzas-coleman-medal

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 06:18:23 PM »
So what does everyone thing our best ruck combo is heading into the finals?

Soldo or Nank as first ruck?

Chol or Balta as second ruck?

Another combo?

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2019, 06:24:18 PM »
Soldo first ruck. Chol or Balta second. Chol in the F50. Balta on wing or mid.

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2019, 06:42:54 PM »
Would only play 2 of the 4. As for who those 2 are I still lean towards nank (if fit) and chol but in all honesty I wouldn’t be fussed with whoever they go with.

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2019, 07:05:28 PM »
Soldo/Chol
Best chemistry and spent plenty of time in vfl together.
If Nank was at his best I'd say but may be underdone
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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2019, 11:51:22 PM »
Soldo has done enough to earn first ruck for the finals. He is a superior tap ruckman and with the fine form our midfield is in, we need to give them first use whenever we can.

2nd ruck is interesting. No one can seem to cop the idea of Nank as a 2nd ruck.
Soldo/Nank for me.
Here is the case:
*Nank is stronger and a better ruckman than Balta and Chol
*He will win way more footy than them
*More confident putting Nank deep in the square one out if we are desperate for a goal, although Chol is gradually getting stronger hands
*Likewise his experience means he knows when to drop in the slot at full back
*Equal or higher than Chol/Balta on the 2nd and 3rd efforts after the ball up/throw in

There is a sacrifice of pace with Nank but not mobility. You see Nank on his haunches at times but he always gets where he needs to be.


 

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2019, 12:39:38 PM »
If we take two slow arse rucks into the finals we'll deserve to go out in straight sets... :shh
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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2019, 10:06:03 AM »
If Nank is fit I would find a way to get him in the team. Can mark and kick a goal. Could be the difference

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2019, 10:21:26 AM »
If we take two slow arse rucks into the finals we'll deserve to go out in straight sets... :shh
That's true if the opposition has athletic rucks. So it's horses for courses. Brisbane's rucks hardly break any land speed records....  :shh
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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2019, 11:10:59 AM »
If we take two slow arse rucks into the finals we'll deserve to go out in straight sets... :shh

Give me your team for next week, not being smart just wanna see where the differences are. (Other thread, save Cyclops moving it  :shh)
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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 12:48:37 PM »
Next week after the VFL match...if I can be arsed... :shh :shh
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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 05:13:02 PM »
Next week after the VFL match...if I can be arsed... :shh :shh

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Re: What's our best ruck combo? [merged]
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 05:39:51 PM »
A shame we haven't been able to try Nank and Soldo combo... Unsure if its wise to debut them together in a final..
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