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[one-eyed]

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[one-eyed]

Where does this current Aussie team rank all-time?

Is it up there with the age of Waugh, Warne and McGrath? Ed Cowan thinks so.


https://twitter.com/abcsport/status/1740946689752526983

[Andyy]

Lol

It's nowhere near that good. You must be kidding me.

They're good vs the quality going around but the quality of test has dropped big time in the last decade.

You could argue our team from 10 years ago was as good or better.

Warner
Rogers
Clarke
Smith
Haddin
Johnson
Harris

Few other randoms.
Lyon

[Damo]

Agree Andy
He’s talking nonsense

The following from those teams would be walk up certainties
Hayden
Waugh
Ponting
Gilchrist
Warne
McGrath

Walk ups in the current team?
Smith
Cummins
Labuschagne you could argue


And for the remaining spots the Waugh side is much stronger for batting options 

Martyn
Langer
Mark Waugh
Slater
Katich

Current side
Warner???
Khawaja

Brad Hodge would have been a walk up start in this generation ..

[Andyy]

Agreed.

Hussey fits somewhere in between the eras maybe, but I'd have him in either team

[Diocletian]

Labuschagne's massively overrated and really should be dropped on current form. .

[Damo]

Agreed.

Hussey fits somewhere in between the eras maybe, but I'd have him in either team

Hussey in between
If looking for an in between, I’d take Michael Clarke
Both didn’t play in either though

[Damo]

Labuschagne's massively overrated and really should be dropped on current form. .

Has had a horrible 12 months no doubt and I’m not his biggest fan
But definitely been the second best over these few years .. the dude averaged roughly 60 odd over his first 30+ tests
I think only Smith and Cummins are certain starters from this era as I said

Reckon that shows the clear gap between the two sides

[mightytiges]

Agree with Damo.

Line both teams up and very few of the current team individually would be picked. The Warne/McGrath era was both a champion team and littered with individual batting and bowling greats. The current team has a few stars (esp. bowlers) but is more a champion team that just knows how to win the key moments of games. Similar to 2017 Richmond in some ways.

Early 2000s vs   2023
Langer            Warner  ........ close. Could have either. Langer complimented Hayden.
Hayden           Khawaja  ........ Hayden
Ponting           Labuschagne  ... Ponting
M.Waugh        Smith .............. Smith
S.Waugh        Head ................ Steve Waugh
Martyn           Marsh ............... different players. Martyn bat avg 46 underrated. Marsh an all-rounder. Gone with Martyn.
Gilchrist          Carey ............... Gilchrist
Warne             Lyon ................ Warne.
Lee                 Starc  ............... close. Starc with the slightly better record and longevity.
Gillespie          Cummins ........... Cummins
McGrath          Hazlewood .......... McGrath

[mightytiges]

https://twitter.com/Suburbia3121/status/1741262283387589055

 

Very clever .

[Damo]

Agree with Damo.

Line both teams up and very few of the current team individually would be picked. The Warne/McGrath era was both a champion team and littered with individual batting and bowling greats. The current team has a few stars (esp. bowlers) but is more a champion team that just knows how to win the key moments of games. Similar to 2017 Richmond in some ways.

Early 2000s vs   2023
Langer            Warner  ........ close. Could have either. Langer complimented Hayden.
Hayden           Khawaja  ........ Hayden
Ponting           Labuschagne  ... Ponting
M.Waugh        Smith .............. Smith
S.Waugh        Head ................ Steve Waugh
Martyn           Marsh ............... different players. Martyn bat avg 46 underrated. Marsh an all-rounder. Gone with Martyn.
Gilchrist          Carey ............... Gilchrist
Warne             Lyon ................ Warne.
Lee                 Starc  ............... close. Starc with the slightly better record and longevity.
Gillespie          Cummins ........... Cummins
McGrath          Hazlewood .......... McGrath

I’d pick
McGrath, Cummins, Hazlewood/Gillespie

With the batting, I’d take Langer over Warner

And I reckon the only one in question is Labuschagne could take the Martyn spot possibly .. the other four bats are obvious walk ups

[Andyy]

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Smith
Waugh
Martyn
Gilly
Warne
Lee
Cummins
McGrath

[Andyy]

Agree with Damo.

Line both teams up and very few of the current team individually would be picked. The Warne/McGrath era was both a champion team and littered with individual batting and bowling greats. The current team has a few stars (esp. bowlers) but is more a champion team that just knows how to win the key moments of games. Similar to 2017 Richmond in some ways.

Early 2000s vs   2023
Langer            Warner  ........ close. Could have either. Langer complimented Hayden.
Hayden           Khawaja  ........ Hayden
Ponting           Labuschagne  ... Ponting
M.Waugh        Smith .............. Smith
S.Waugh        Head ................ Steve Waugh
Martyn           Marsh ............... different players. Martyn bat avg 46 underrated. Marsh an all-rounder. Gone with Martyn.
Gilchrist          Carey ............... Gilchrist
Warne             Lyon ................ Warne.
Lee                 Starc  ............... close. Starc with the slightly better record and longevity.
Gillespie          Cummins ........... Cummins
McGrath          Hazlewood .......... McGrath

I’d pick
McGrath, Cummins, Hazlewood/Gillespie

With the batting, I’d take Langer over Warner

And I reckon the only one in question is Labuschagne could take the Martyn spot possibly .. the other four bats are obvious walk ups

Funny, my dad doesn't like Hazelwood. Doesn't bend his back enough or get enough bounce apparently. Despite this he continues to take wickets at very good averages.

He also didn't rate Lyon until the last couple of years and I probably didn't either. Still not sure how he's got 500 wickets. I always thought he was lucky but I guess luck would only get you so far right?

[Damo]

Lyon would have got games in the Warne era when playing in the sub continent if they wanted an off spinner .. realistically he would have been third in line though behind the great man and Stewie McGill

[one-eyed]

Aussie 3-0 clean sweep.

Pak   313 & 115 .... Hazlewood 4/19, Lyon 3/36, Starc 1/15, Head 1/19, Cummins 1/24.

Aus   299 & 2/130 ..... Labuschage 62* & Warner 57 in his final test innings.


Player of the Series: Pat Cummins.