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Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« on: April 16, 2006, 06:47:40 PM »
Wallace's view:

Nathan Brown had a night he'd rather forget after being beaten by Tyson Stenglein. He finished with only two kicks and two marks but scored a goal midway through the third term.

"He's still struggling, and I think Nathan knows that himself," Wallace said.

"No one's giving him any favours as you would expect, he's got a quality defender on him week in and week out and that's what he's getting because of his reputation in the game.

"…I did try to warn people (that Nathan would struggle) at the start of the year and that it was going to take him 12 months to get back (to his best)."

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=258110

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2006, 10:01:06 PM »
Personally having been at the game yesterday and seeing how much Browny did struggle I reckon it's time for a rest.  :thumbsup

He appeared to pull up sore a couple of times when attacking the ball - it appeared like he suffered a sudden sharp pain or something. The other thing too was the Eagles (and all credit to 'em) ran off him very easily - set up a lot of attacks out of the back half
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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2006, 10:22:35 PM »
He should of been rested on the big hard Subi ground - That said he should rest this week, he is no good in that state (leg soreness) not WA and a week off should do him good.

Then unleassh him on the scum at our first HOME game of the year.

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2006, 01:06:22 AM »
weekly rotation at least.

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Browny may play for shorts bursts in the midfield - Wallace
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2006, 01:33:38 AM »
Desperate Wallace looks towards frustrated Brown
17 April 2006   
Herald Sun
Mark Stevens

RICHMOND is poised to set Nathan Brown free after a fortnight of intense frustration close to goal.
 
Tigers coach Terry Wallace last night flagged the prospect of Brown playing short bursts in the midfield or off half-back against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday night.

"We might play him in five-minute lots up the ground – on and off the bench," Wallace said.

But Brown has to get that far first, with Wallace again not ruling out resting his superstar.

Wallace said there was every chance Brown could miss the trip to the Gabba.

Brown pulled up sore after the Tigers' loss to West Coast at Subiaco on Saturday night and continues to be a week-to-week proposition.

He had two kicks and managed one goal in 86 minutes, manned up by Eagles stopper Tyson Stenglein.

"Browny is very frustrated. He is a very proud person and he doesn't want to lose ground in the eyes of his teammates," Wallace said.

Wallace conceded the Tigers were partly to blame for Brown's struggle to regain form after returning from a sickening broken leg.

"We probably haven't done him any favours," Wallace said. "We decided to play him deeper because it's not as taxing on the body, but it's a hard spot to play when you're not 100 per cent right.

"We need to try to work out, between the medical and football staff, what he can and can't do.

"Every week we're finding out more and more information about what he is capable of.

"We'll sit down tomorrow and see where he's going, and what our plan of action is."

Wallace said it was time Brown moved further up the ground and started winning the ball again.

In his return match against the Bulldogs in Round 1, Brown started at the back of the square and managed 18 disposals in 104 minutes in a successful comeback game.

"He played some good footy then. Perhaps we need to free him up a bit," Wallace said.

"Up the ground, he will find the ball."

Opposition teams have cut Brown no slack, throwing their best stoppers his way.

The Bulldogs used Dale Morris as a match-up when Brown was forward and he copped renowned stopper Steven Baker when the Tigers lost to the Saints in Round 2.

Brown had 10 disposals in 95 minutes against the Saints and finished with two behinds.

Brown's goal against the Eagles on Saturday night was his first of the season.

The Tigers will continue to be patient with the damaging forward. They don't expect Brown to return to his best until 2007 – after the rod is removed from his right leg.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18833664%255E20322,00.html

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2006, 10:07:24 AM »
Give Browny a rest this week and call up Meyer

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Re: Browny may play for shorts bursts in the midfield - Wallace
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2006, 05:33:57 PM »
Tigers coach Terry Wallace last night flagged the prospect of Brown playing short bursts in the midfield or off half-back against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday night.

"We might play him in five-minute lots up the ground – on and off the bench," Wallace said.

I can't see Browny having the run and pace to play in the centre even for short bursts at this stage.
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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2006, 05:52:47 PM »
He is getting games on reputation.

2 touches? Anyone else would be dropped.

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2006, 05:58:54 PM »
Ch 10 had Wallace on saying Browny was 50-50 as he's still sore.
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Browny may be dropped (RFC site)
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2006, 06:01:18 PM »
Brown may be dropped
5:18:22 PM Tue 18 April, 2006
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au

Richmond coach Terry Wallace has conceded he may have to do the previously unthinkable and drop Nathan Brown if the champion forward continues to struggle in his recovery from a broken leg.

Brown has played all three matches this season but has been a shadow of the player that was so dominant before he suffered his horrific injury in round ten last year.

After 34 goals in just ten games last year, the dual All-Australian has managed just one so far this season and only collected two kicks during last Saturday's loss to the West Coast Eagles.

And while Wallace remains convinced Brown can recapture his best form, he conceded he would drop him if he believed at any stage that he was no longer in the Tigers' best 22.

"There has to be a time where he earns his right to play," Wallace said.

"It’s an ongoing dilemma of what impact he can have, while we are trying to work him back to full fitness and full game strength, versus winning games and playing our best team."

"I am still responsible as the senior coach to select the best side and you have got to have a situation where the guys playing at the next level deserve their opportunity and a bloke at senior level doesn't (if he is struggling) and we will decide that at any point in time."

Wallace denied the Tigers were risking Brown by playing him just ten months after his shocking injury, adding he had earned his spot in the team thus far.

The Tigers coach said he had warned all along Brown was unlikely to return to his best until 2007, by which time he would have had the rod is in his leg removed and would have had the benefit of another full pre-season under his belt.

"The medical statements on him are that he is right to play each week, we wouldn't play him otherwise so there is no risk - it's just soreness and his inability to move laterally as well as he would like."

"It's a difficult game at the best of times to play, let alone if you are only able to run in a straight line."

Wallace said he was also in a "Catch 22 situation" where to play Brown, admitting he was battling in the difficult small forward role while struggling in his recovery.

But equally Wallace is concerned the increased workload that would come as a result of moving Brown into the midfield to get him more involved in the play may place too much pressure on his leg.

Brown is not Wallace's only headache in the lead-up to Saturday night's tough trip to Brisbane as he tries to lift the Tigers off the bottom of the ladder as one of only two winless teams after three rounds.

The loss of full-back Darren Gaspar (hamstring) just a week after the long-term losses of promising young defenders Will Thursfield (knee) and Jay Schulz (collarbone) leaves the Tigers desperately short on for height in defence.

But despite the Tigers' tough predicament Wallace is not downbeat saying he knew the job of re-building a Richmond side that has made the finals just twice in 23 years and was last on the ladder with 14 straight losses when he took over would be tough.

"I didn’t kid myself when I took on this job 18 months ago, I knew it was a very difficult job," he said.

"A lot of people told me not to take it on because they believed it was too tough considering where the club was at, but this is about a journey and getting the place right and we will have a few hiccups along the way."

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=258593

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2006, 07:00:57 PM »
Magoos for a week or two just as part of his rehab.

Call it dropped if u want but i liken it more to prevention better than cure @ this stage.

The guys got a rod the length of johnny Holmes in his leg FFS.

No wonder he pulls up "Stiff" :shh

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Injury still impedes Brown's comeback (The Age)
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2006, 02:49:38 AM »
Injury still impedes Brown's comeback
By Martin Boulton
The Age
April 19, 2006

RICHMOND'S Nathan Brown could be a week-to-week proposition if post-match soreness continues to restrict his training and limits his ability to play full games.

Coach Terry Wallace said yesterday he still thought Brown would return to the form he showed in the early part of last season, but said that level of improvement may not come until next season.

"I've said from day one I thought it would take another summer of training, having the rod out of his leg and a full summer on the training track before we're likely to see the absolute best of him," Wallace said.

"I'm still confident he can get back to his best, but it will take time."

Brown badly broke his lower right leg in the round 10 clash against Melbourne at Telstra Dome last year.

After a promising return to senior football this year, collecting 18 possessions in round one, he had 10 touches against St Kilda in round two but managed just two kicks against the Eagles on Saturday night.

His three matches so far this year have returned one goal. In the nine matches he played in 2005 before breaking his leg he booted 34 goals.

After he pulled up sore from the season opener against the Western Bulldogs, Wallace played his star recruit inside the Tigers' forward 50 against St Kilda, but said that role also left him with soreness and restricted his ability to train.

Compounding injury concerns are Darren Gaspar's hamstring (two weeks) and Tom Roach's broken cheekbone, which is expected to sideline him for six weeks.

Jay Schulz (dislocated collarbone) is likely to miss up to two months and defender Will Thursfield will miss the season with a knee injury.

Wallace said talls Greg Stafford and Trent Knobel, both yet to play a senior game this season, were available to play the Lions on Saturday night.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/04/18/1145344083484.html

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2006, 02:09:32 PM »
If he's feeling sore he didn't show it on the training track today. He did the whole 2 hour session with the main group and looked to be moving well. He even spent time at the end with Krak and Sugar practicing their leads with changes of direction on the members wing.

Browny was asked by some reporter from Fox footy as he ran inside at the end if he woud play and he said with a smirk he hopes so but that's up to Terry. Wallace didn't give anything away when he was interviewed for a couple of minutes but going on Browny today I'd say he will play.
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Tigers to meet on Browny (RFC site)
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2006, 01:24:35 AM »
Tigers to meet on Brown
11:42:14 PM Sat 22 April, 2006
Andrew Browne
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Richmond's coaching staff will sit down on Monday and discuss the current status of Nathan Brown's troublesome leg after the star forward was too sore to play in Brisbane on Saturday night.

Despite Brown completing the Tigers' light training run on Friday evening, the coaching panel decided against playing the 28-year-old and his place was admirably taken by youngster Nathan Foley as the visitors recorded their first win of the season at the Gabba.

Coach Terry Wallace said after the gutsy 14-point victory that there were no complications in the recovery from last year's badly broken leg, but the injury is still causing Brown some frustration.

"We are going to have a meeting with our medical staff and football division of the club about where we take it (Brown's injury)," said Wallace.

"We have a lot of people who have not got the medical information that are having an opinion on what we should or shouldn't be doing with him."

"He (Brown) gets frustrated with where he is at so we just need to make sure we keep covering everything off and that he knows and understands it is a long journey and long process he is a part of."

Wallace did not reveal if specialists outside of the club would be involved in the meeting, but it is just a matter of 'dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's' in terms of the recovery process.

"We are very satisfied with everything that has happened physically and medically with him up until this stage," he said.

"We just want to dot the 'i's and cross the 't's just to make sure he and his family are comfortable and marching in the right direction which I think is important."

The meeting will determine whether Brown gets the go ahead to prepare for Friday night's clash against Carlton as the Tigers manage another short week.

"With him being sore you guarantee he couldn't play both (games), so we will give him every chance for Carlton next week if that is what we decide on Monday," said Wallace.

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Re: Should Browny stay in the seniors?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2006, 09:47:37 AM »
I hate to say it but if Browny had played I don't think we would have won.