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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2019, 09:04:40 PM »


We must play 1 home marvel match WHICH I don't understand why that is?


Because there must be a certain amount of games at Comic Book Stadium every season, even though the AFL owns the stadium they have contractual agreements in place.

To achieve this ALL MCG tenant clubs must play at least 1 home game at Comic Book Stadium

Is it right? No but it is what it is

We are now fortunate it is now only 1 a season rather what it used to be before we became the biggest club in the Comp and that as at least 2-3
I’m not sure all that is correct.

When the AFL didn’t own the poohole, fair enough there may have been a contract in place but who is the contract with now?? Them self??

If you do the math there is enough clubs that call Marvel Stadium home to play a game there every week without having to drag other teams into it.

The fixture is so compromised the AFL shouldn’t throw another thing like this into it.

All that aside I’m just glad we don’t play North their in 2020.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2019, 09:43:49 PM »
I’m not sure all that is correct.

When the AFL didn’t own the poohole, fair enough there may have been a contract in place but who is the contract with now?? Them self??

If you do the math there is enough clubs that call Marvel Stadium home to play a game there every week without having to drag other teams into it.

The fixture is so compromised the AFL shouldn’t throw another thing like this into it.

All that aside I’m just glad we don’t play North their in 2020.

There is a guarantee for Medallion Club Members that is certain number of AFL  games there each year

 There is also the naming rights deal with the comic book mob thst there is a certain number of games

I agree stadium tenants should make up the numbers but again the contracts with some of those home clubs state they only have to play a certain number of home games there and it's not 11. E.g. Carlton and The Bumblers
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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2019, 09:56:38 PM »
I’m not sure all that is correct.

When the AFL didn’t own the poohole, fair enough there may have been a contract in place but who is the contract with now?? Them self??

If you do the math there is enough clubs that call Marvel Stadium home to play a game there every week without having to drag other teams into it.

The fixture is so compromised the AFL shouldn’t throw another thing like this into it.

All that aside I’m just glad we don’t play North their in 2020.

There is a guarantee for Medallion Club Members that is certain number of AFL  games there each year

 There is also the naming rights deal with the comic book mob thst there is a certain number of games

I agree stadium tenants should make up the numbers but again the contracts with some of those home clubs state they only have to play a certain number of home games there and it's not 11. E.g. Carlton and The Bumblers
It is pretty clear neither of us know what the actual reason is that other clubs have to play at Marvel because between
Essendon
Carlton
St. Kilda
Western Bulldogs
North

there is enough games that other clubs like us don’t need to play there. (As a home game)
Even if all of those 5 clubs only play 5 games each, that is still enough to play a game there every week.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2019, 10:15:28 PM »
It is close to 50 games reqd that's what I've been told by someone who is Medallion Club Member

Four of the 5 co-tenant have deals to play some home games at other venues

North play 3 games in Tassie
Bombers have a deal that says they play 4 or 5 home games at the MCG per year
Ditto Carlton
Bulldogs play 2 home games in Ballarat

Only co-tenant that can play all 11 home games at Comic Book stadium is St Kilda

So the shortfall is made up by MCG  tenants

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2019, 06:39:01 AM »


MCG
• 14 games all-up (13 in 2019)
• 10 home games (10 in ’19)
• 4 away games (3 in ’19)
• 8 day games (5 in ’19)
• 6 night games (7 in ’19)
• 2 Thursday night games (2 in ’19)
• 3 Friday night games (2 in ’19)
• 3 Saturday afternoon games (1 in ’19)
• 1 Saturday night game (2 in ’19)
• 5 Sunday afternoon games (4 in ’19)

Marvel Stadium
• 2 games all-up at Marvel Stadium (4 in ’19)
• 1 home game (1 in ’19)
• 1 away game (3 in ’19)
• 1 day game (1 in ’19)
• 1 twilight game (0 in ’19)
• 1 Saturday twilight game (0 in ’19)
• 1 Sunday afternoon game (1 in ’19)

Interstate
• 6 games all-up interstate (5 in ’19)
• 1 Friday night game at Optus Stadium (v West Coast)
• 1 Friday night game at the Gabba (v Brisbane)
• 1 Friday night game at Adelaide Oval (v Adelaide)
• 1 Saturday afternoon game at Metricon Stadium (v Gold Coast)
• 1 Saturday night game at Giants Stadium (v GWS)
• *Note that the final round home-and-away fixture v Fremantle at Optus Stadium is a floating one with date and time to be confirmed late in the season.

Day by day

• 2 Thursday night games (3 in ’19)
• 6 Friday night games (3 in ’19)
• 4 Saturday afternoon games (2 in ’19)
• 1 Saturday twilight game (2 in ’19)
• 2 Saturday night games (4 in ’19)
• 6 Sunday afternoon games (5 in ’19)
• 2 Thursday games all-up (3 in ’19)
• 6 Friday games all-up (3 in ’19)
• 7 Saturday games all-up (8 in ’19)
• 6 Sunday games all-up (6 in ’19)
• 10 day games all-up (7 in ’19)
• 1 twilight game all-up (3 in ’19)
• 10 night games all-up (11 in ’19)

Them’s the breaks
• One 14-day break (0 in ’19)
• One 10-day breaks (1 in ’19)
• One 9-day break (1 in ’19)
• Five 8-day breaks (4 in ’19)
• Six 7-day breaks (6 in ’19)
• Six 6-day breaks (6 in ’19)
• One 5-day break (0 in ’19)

Network coverage
• 9 Foxtel games (8 in ‘19)
• 12 Channel Seven games (13 in ‘19)

Other fixture facts
• Play twice: Adelaide, Carlton, Collingwood, Greater Western Sydney, West Coast.
• Play once: Brisbane, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Sydney, Western Bulldogs.
• Play three of the top eight sides of 2019 twice – Collingwood, Greater Western Sydney and West Coast.
• Interstate trips to: Adelaide, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Perth twice, Sydney.
• Have a bye in Round 13.
• Play five of the first seven games at the MCG.
• Play five consecutive games at the MCG from Round 9-14.
• Play North Melbourne at the MCG for the first time since 2015 and only the second time since 2012.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-10-31/richmond-2020-fixture-analysis

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2019, 06:40:36 AM »
Pros: A whopping eight primetime (Thursday/Friday night) slots for the reigning premiers, with another two Saturday night clashes. Richmond will also be thrilled with 10 of its first 13 games being at the MCG.

Cons:
The double-ups are tough. GWS, West Coast and Collingwood all made finals and have been some of the premier sides of the past few years, while Adelaide and Carlton aren't expected to be walks in the park either in 2020. Two games at Optus Stadium isn't ideal, but the Tigers only leave the state six times.

Circle it:
Round two against Collingwood at the MCG on a Thursday night. It will be the fourth time in five years this fixture has been held in round two, with the fierce rivals always drawing a big crowd.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-31/we-rank-your-fixture-pros-cons-circle-it-who-got-a-raw-deal

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2019, 03:23:16 PM »
Champion Data reckons we've got the 7th hardest draw.


Despite just winning its second flag in three years, Richmond is only seventh on the difficulty ladder.

The premier has been hit with Grand Final opponent GWS twice, along with Collingwood and West Coast.

The Tigers have got 14 games at the MCG – one more than last season – but have to go interstate six times, up from five.


1. West Coast
2. Hawthorn
3. Gold Coast
4. Essendon
5. GWS
6. Carlton
7. Richmond
8. North Melbourne
9. Geelong
10. St Kilda
11. Collingwood
12. Western Bulldogs
13. Brisbane
14. Port Adelaide
15. Adelaide
16. Melbourne
17. Sydney
18. Fremantle

Source: CHAMPION DATA

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/2020-afl-fixture-see-how-difficult-your-clubs-fixture-is/news-story/6c84b2e5eb464c0087a26e1a372109cf
https://www.zerohanger.com/champion-data-ranks-all-18-afl-clubs-fixtures-36459/

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2019, 03:29:11 PM »
Goes to show you those clowns running the competition buckled under pressure and a media driven with supporter angst when you see quotes like this never seen a spokesman from a organisation mention a particular team in reference why the fixture was given.Bush league stuff .Taken from Herald Sun.


" You’ll see a different outcome this year at the MCG. There’s a much broader spread of games, particularly in the back end of the season for Richmond,” Auld said.


“But you look at those clubs who play a lot of games at the MCG and you’ll have blocks of games, there’s no doubt about that. It’s the same for clubs who play a lot of games at Marvel Stadium.


“But I think we’ve got a better balance next year and you’ll certainly see in Richmond’s fixture that there’s more balance.”


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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2019, 08:53:00 PM »
Robbo: Why the AFL fixture is overrated

A club chief executive on Friday described the AFL fixture as “overrated’’.

The point is the fixture is dissected — as it is every year — to within an inch of it’s life when no one really knows how much the fixture will impact.

Geelong coach Chris Scott this year said that, of course, it mattered who you played, but equally as important, if not more, was when you played them.

Like, playing an injury-beset Richmond in Rounds 11-13 this year — when the Tigers lost to North Melbourne, Geelong and Adelaide.

When the injured players returned, the Tigers went on a 12-game winning streak.

Injuries. Momentum. Form. Suspensions. Confidence. Attitude. Internal bickering.

What is clear is the annual debate about the fixture is mind-numbingly boring.

It is an 18-team competition played out in 23 weeks — so it’s really a box of licorice allsorts.

And money drives it, anyhow.

The fact is clubs will privately whinge and moan, but it means nothing because they can’t do anything about it.

It’s like an occasional umpire’s decision. You scratch your head, but you have to live with it and move on.

Melbourne in the heat of Perth Round 1? Bad luck. Prepare for it.

Collingwood draws the Suns at the end of a gruelling season? Lucky Pies.

Geelong gets three home games in Rounds 19-21? Make the most of it.

Richmond gets the ‘G again? It is what it is.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/too-much-is-read-into-the-afl-fixture-and-who-plays-who-when-mark-robinson-writes/news-story/aaa2edbf8a5494a3fc16704d6487948f

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2019, 11:03:45 PM »
It is close to 50 games reqd that's what I've been told by someone who is Medallion Club Member

Four of the 5 co-tenant have deals to play some home games at other venues

North play 3 games in Tassie
Bombers have a deal that says they play 4 or 5 home games at the MCG per year
Ditto Carlton
Bulldogs play 2 home games in Ballarat

Only co-tenant that can play all 11 home games at Comic Book stadium is St Kilda

So the shortfall is made up by MCG  tenants
50 games.... that is more than 2 a week! Are you sure??

I understand what you are saying WP but the AFL own the ground now- who do the AFL have the contract with, that says 50 games must be played there??

This is one of those things that is just there but nobody really knows the real details.

And if you think it is about the  “Medallion Club” members, they now have access to MCG games unlike in years gone by. So that membership is better than ever before.

Truth be known it’s just a money decision by the AFL IMO.
Simple as that.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2019, 08:56:05 AM »
43 games scheduled at Marvel stadium during 2019

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2019, 10:36:06 AM »
I thought Carlton's official home ground was the 'G?

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2019, 05:03:27 PM »
43 games scheduled at Marvel stadium during 2019
So 43 games scheduled with 5 teams that call Marvel Stadium home.
That’s 8.5 homes games each.
That still seems viable even with their other commitments.

Although the reason teams like the Doggies play in Ballarat is money- and if the AFL who own Marvel Stadium now, did better deals, they wouldn’t need to.

And we wouldn’t need to play any of our home games there.

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Re: 2020 Fixture - AFL to now look at double-header matches for this year
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2020, 03:27:27 AM »
AFL to look at double-header matches for this year

Jake Niall
The Age
28 March 2020


The AFL will consider scheduling double-headers at the same grounds this season in a bid to complete the 17 home-and-away rounds during a reduced period.

AFL sources have confirmed that the league will entertain the concept - which was briefly trialled back in the mid-1980s - of playing consecutive games at venues such as Marvel Stadium, which the AFL owns, or even the MCG, if and when games return.

Double-headers are considered more feasible in the unprecedented circumstances of this year, for two reasons.

The first is the reality that the AFL anticipates that games will initially be played without crowds if and when the season resumes following the shutdown.

The second factor that makes double-headers more attractive is the shortened quarters of 16 minutes plus time-on, a reduction of 20 per cent. Shorter games make it easier for the AFL to host two games back-to-back.

Double-headers would save the AFL money on staffing at the games. They might also be helpful to the broadcasters in terms of cost savings, if the same network and crews could cover the double-header.

Games could be played sometime after 4pm and then followed by a genuine night game, when television and streaming ratings are invariably higher.

Double-headers shape as particularly suited to Marvel Stadium, which the AFL controls, but would be possible at the MCG, too.

Most at clubs and within the AFL think it is unlikely that games will return immediately after the shutdown, with a longer period without games viewed as probable in view of the government actions and advice to the AFL on the coronavirus crisis.

While the AFL season could stretch well beyond September and even into December - again, if it returns at all - the league still intends to have a 22-game home-and-away season in 2021.

Fixturing, while important to the clubs and competition, is less pressing to the competition than the financial restructuring of the game - which has seen the bulk of the club staff stood down - to ensure that the league and their clubs remain fiscally viable.

It is noteworthy that double-headers were trialled in 1986, the year before the then VFL went national by adding West Coast and Brisbane to the league, in what was a period of financial crisis for the game when several clubs were heavily indebted.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-to-look-at-double-header-matches-for-this-year-20200327-p54ep1.html

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2020, 07:54:41 AM »
Forget it this season aint gunna happen