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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2020, 03:47:19 AM »
Barrett reckons the season will have to resume no later than September.

The plan is to have the 17 game H/A season as a set of rolling games every night on TV.

Finals to include the top 10-12 teams with a wildcard round.

MCG out of action after Oct 10 due to the T20 World Cup (until Nov 15).

May get a chance to play games at the MCG between the end of the T20 WC and the Boxing Day Test. If not then there's always the option of playing all finals at Docklands.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2020, 10:34:29 PM »
I can't see the T20 world cup going ahead if our borders are shut down which they will be for 12-24 months. 

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2020, 03:45:07 AM »
RADICAL FINALS PROPOSAL

Jon Ralph
Herald-Sun
30 March 2020


A best-of-three Grand Final series is one of several options being considered by the AFL as it seeks to devise a compressed fixture in the case the league resumes later in the year.

A wildcard finals weekend is another proposal being canvassed.

The AFL will meet with the AFL Players’ Association in order to get four-day breaks ticked off in order to play a 17-round season.

However, were a wildcard weekend and/or a best-of-three Grand Final series ticked off, the league would need to find more time to accommodate such changes.

AFL fixturing boss Travis Auld stressed that a 17-game season and traditional four-week finals series would serve as the league’s minimum requirements.

“We are (open to wildcard weekend) except it’s going to add length to the season,” Auld said.

“If we have got the time maybe but things would have to change really quickly for us to be in a position where we have spare time. If we had kept going from Round 1 we would have had spare time but every week that goes by you lose that space.

“Getting 17 rounds away in a shortened period of time and then four weeks of finals is our base.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-considering-wildcard-finals-weekend-and-is-open-to-bestofthree-grand-final-series/news-story/20be08b8dfda4299d998a41eef2cbb41

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2020, 09:23:26 AM »
Wildcard and best of 3 can F right off.

Not enough time.

Just play 17 games, skip the byes, skip the week off before finals and that will do. It's the only way to have a season of integrity and I have my doubts that we can achieve even that.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2020, 01:54:48 AM »
Wildcard and best of 3 can F right off.

Not enough time.

Just play 17 games, skip the byes, skip the week off before finals and that will do. It's the only way to have a season of integrity and I have my doubts that we can achieve even that.

Yeah I just don’t get it. Is it the journos just trying to print something because I don’t understand why this would even be considered in the slightest.

Whole issue is about condensing a season into whatever time we have left when they are allowed to start again. Oh I know let’s bring in more teams into the finals series and make the grand final a best of 3.......

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2020, 03:09:17 AM »
The AFL is getting creative. Here's every option to complete the 2020 season

April 1, 2020
Tom Morris
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That's the motto the AFL is taking into all of its meetings with clubs and other key stakeholders as it tries to navigate unprecedented waters.

The only option that is categorically off the table is a Christmas Day Grand Final.

There is an acceptance at clubs and among players that to recoup valuable finances they will need to be nimble, understanding and open-minded. To start by saying 'yes' rather than 'no'.

The AFL has set May 31 as its target return date, but key industry figures believe this remains highly unlikely as the coronavirus spreads.

League CEO Gillon McLachlan forecast a 40-week window to play 17 games per team and host a finals series. But as the year progresses from winter into spring, finding grounds present a significant challenge.

According to AFL stats analysis site HPNFooty, the last possible date for a conventional season to begin is Friday August 14. If nine games are played from Friday to Sunday every week from then on, the Grand Final would be due for Boxing Day.

But a “roundless” season in which clubs play three games every 14 days on average could start as late as September 10.

And if the AFL gets desperate, Round 2 could be played on September 21 and each team would have 4-6 day breaks between games.

The latest the 2020 season could realistically start is mid-October, though the later it gets pushed back, the further larger list sizes and other provisions will need to be considered.

Here is a list of possible scenarios the AFL will consider over the next few months.

FOOTY EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK

If footy goes ahead, you can pretty much lock this in. The AFL Players’ Association is open to four-day breaks, which is a significant relaxation on policy given no club had more than one five-day break scheduled this season.

It might last for two weeks as a bonanza or it we might see more than a month of footy on most nights. Either way, the best way to condense 144 matches into a shortened period is to play more regularly. Remember across Easter and Anzac Day last year we saw games played on 10 out of 11 days.

List sizes, game length, rotations and other provisions will need to be considered.

MCG GRAND FINAL?

An MCG Grand Final remains a possibility before October 10 but any later is dependent on the International Cricket Council, which is unlikely to be sympathetic to cricket.

If the T20 World Cup is postponed or cancelled due to travel restrictions, the MCG could become available again in a critical October-November window.

If the T20 World Cup goes ahead, the league would need to negotiate a way to host football there in December around Sheffield Shield cricket and the Boxing Day Test. BBL is not played at the MCG until January due to the December 26-30 Test match.

HOME TEAM GRAND FINAL?

Imagine if the AFL decided to award the highest ranked Grand Final team with a home state decider.

There would be a great deal of uncertainty and it would probably require deep negotiations with Cricket Australia with the SCG, Optus Stadium, Gabba and Adelaide Oval all cricket grounds in the summer.

TWO DIVISIONS

If time gets tight and 17 rounds becomes logistically impossible, the AFL could split the competition into two conferences.

Clubs would play every other team in their division before an extended finals series.

The AFL would need to decide whether to effectively render Round 1 irrelevant or to just group teams with their opponents from the opening weekend and have those points count towards their conference table.

This outcome would be a seismic shift in the football landscape, but some footy is better than no footy. Nobody is ruling this option out.

TRAVELLING TEAMS TO REMAIN ON THE ROAD

To limit interstate travel the AFL could easily fixture Fremantle – for example – to play three games across nine days in Victoria.

The same could apply to a Melbourne-based team on the road in South Australia. A Friday night match against the Crows could be followed by a Tuesday evening encounter against Port Power.

DOUBLE-HEADERS IN SAME STADIUM

This scenario is made possible for two reasons. The first is that with no crowds, the logistics are simpler for security purposes. A 2.10pm bounce could quite easily be followed by a 7.30 start.

The second reason concerns the league’s purchase of Marvel Stadium, which would allow them to play an unlimited number of matches at the venue if needed.

MARVEL STADIUM GRAND FINAL

Cricket Australia and the BBL might play hard ball, but McLachlan is a shrewd negotiator and if the season starts late, a Docklands Grand Final appears the most likely scenario. The biggest home and away crowd at Marvel Stadium was 54,444 in 2009, which is just over half the MCG’s capacity.

The AFL paid $200 million for the stadium for a variety of reasons. This is precisely one of them.

WILDCARD FINALS SERIES

A wildcard finals series, which has long been discussed as an option to follow Round 23, would require spare time, which the AFL is unlikely to have at its disposal. Club officials believe a wildcard or playoff weekend is more likely in 2021.

BEST OF THREE GRAND FINAL SERIES

"I don't know if we're ready for it yet, but if there's ever going to be a time to try it, now would be it,” said Collingwood captain Scott Pendlebury.

Like a wildcard finals system, the AFL would need time to complete a best of three series – probably three weeks. The Sydney Swans pushed for a change in format in late 2018 to give interstate teams more opportunity. Don Pyke had raised the possibility a year earlier after Adelaide lost to Richmond at the MCG.

Other Australian domestic competitions such as the National Basketball League use a best of three Grand Final series to determine the champions.

BEST POSSIBLE CASE

Football returns in early June, 17 home and away games are played and then four weeks of finals culminating in a decider at the MCG.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2020-how-the-afl-season-could-play-out-coronavirus-updates-gillon-mclachlan-marvel-stadium/news-story/cda47c1da774380d48bc7ab5c2ef7363

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2020, 10:55:51 AM »
All dribble.

Just award it to Richmond, given that they hold the flag currently.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2020, 05:15:40 PM »
Eddie’s plan for old school footy throwback

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April 1, 2020


Eddie McGuire says there is a golden opportunity for AFL football to return to spiritual home grounds this season as the game faces a logistical nightmare if the season commences in 2020.

The AFL and clubs have stood down about 80 per cent of staff and the 2020 season will not resume until at least May 31 — pushing the game into a conflict with cricket over venue availability in spring and summer.

With the AFL’s best case scenario expected to be returning to play matches this year behind closed doors in empty stadiums, McGuire says staging games at suburban Melbourne venues, including Punt Road, Windy Hill, Princes Park and Victoria Park, should be considered.

“There is a real opportunity to do that,” McGuire said on Triple M on Wednesday.

“It could be something that comes up with the dramas with Marvel Stadium if it will be available with cricket. There are plenty of opportunities.

“I think that these venues are going to play a far bigger role with the women’s football and whatever the second-tier VFL competition looks like eventually once we get things going.”

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan and Cricket Australia CEO Kevin Roberts have both declared they will work together to find a way for both sports to co-exist this summer, if the AFL season returns and plays into cricket season, with the World Twenty20 World Cup still scheduled to begin in Australia on October 18.

McGuire’s call comes after Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd called on the AFL to consider merging the 2020 season and the 2021 season in a bid to legitimise any football played this year.

He said the 2020 season would be in danger of being discarded as meaningless if a premier is declared after a 12-round season and finals series.

Lloyd has suggested a possible 34-game series that would see finals played in September, 2021.

“I’d rather an epic 34-game season, where we get 12 games off late this year and then have another 22 games next year into finals,” Lloyd said.

“You give players a break over Christmas, New Years, and get into a 34-game [season], play each other twice, rather than handing out [a lesser premiership].

“Giving a premiership to a side for 15 games ... if we get down to 12 [regular season] games and suddenly finals and a premiership’s given, it will never be remembered. It will be, ‘Oh yeah, that year. Remember Port Adelaide won that one — wasn’t a real premiership’.”

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/eddie-mcguire-reveals-plan-for-afl-footy-to-return-to-the-nineties/news-story/cca5051d5efa83864025b401db931b27

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2020, 07:21:58 PM »
Gill on Ch 7 news tonight ruled out a best of three Grand Final series.

He didn't rule out a 10-team wildcard finals series though.

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2020, 10:00:22 PM »
There won't be footy in 2020.  Be lucky to be able to leave the house until October. 
People should start getting prepared for that. 
I'm worried it will roll into 2021. 

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2020, 08:58:24 AM »
na not for me. Thats the worse case.

My estimate is footy to return behind closed doors in around June/July with crowds allowed in come September

either way the reason is a right off

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2020, 12:35:30 PM »
How many weeks have we lost by 31/5 and how many more are we going to lose?

How many weeks does it take to play a season of integrity?

Only play 17 games (save 5 weeks), no bye (1 week), cut week off before finals (1 week) and I'd even be in favor of skipping elimination finals (top 2 progress straight to PF, 3rd-6th play SF in first week of finals) to save another week.

That's 8 weeks of time saved.

If we can push the season to finish later IE Nov/Dec that could gain us easily another 6-10 weeks.


I'm pessimistic but would love to see some footy, and as a current contender I really feel like we have a lot to lose! I want my Dimmasty!

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2020, 04:07:36 PM »
We can play 17 after June 1: AFL chief not backing down

By Anna Harrington
AAP
2 April 2020


AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan is confident the League can get a 17-round season away, even if its return date is pushed beyond June 1.

The season is suspended until at least May 31 due to the coronavirus pandemic and was reduced to 17 rounds and finals before the 2020 campaign kicked off.McLachlan said there are no plans to cut the season length beyond that figure and flagged the possibility of squeezing extra games into weeks to ensure the abbreviated campaign were completed.

"What we're saying is 'What is the drop-dead date to get 17 rounds away?'" McLachlan told ABC Radio Melbourne on Thursday.

"And it's certainly later than June 1 - we can get our season away later than that.

"So it may get to the point that we need to look at different models beyond 17 but at the moment we have given ourselves that flexibility by 17 rounds.

"We've got a really united industry, a united group of players and clubs that know that it's plausible to get 17 rounds away (and) almost maybe in less than 17 weeks if we compress it a little bit - maybe we could pick up one or two weeks there over the course of 17 weeks.

"So we have time beyond June 1 to get 17 rounds away."

https://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/582574/we-can-play-17-after-june-1-afl-chief-not-backing-down

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2020, 02:11:38 PM »
They are now talking about basing teams in Darwin and playing multiple games when the season resumes.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/afl/afl-video-footy-based-at-darwin-idea/ck8m6jizs001f0iqwhduv0cm3

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2020, 08:13:32 PM »
They are now talking about basing teams in Darwin and playing multiple games when the season resumes.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/afl/afl-video-footy-based-at-darwin-idea/ck8m6jizs001f0iqwhduv0cm3
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I guess they have to do what they have to do..
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