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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #121 on: April 30, 2020, 07:48:33 PM »
Tomorrow looms as a crucial day for the AFL, with a return date to be discussed during a meeting of the National Cabinet.

The AFLPA will start meeting players from all 18 clubs on Friday to get a more detailed understanding of the players' issues, but family concerns have clearly emerged as the biggest of several stumbling blocks facing the AFL in gaining agreement to the concept.

Richmond captain Trent Cotchin is understood to have opposed spending a long stretch inside the hub, as did other senior players in the competition who made clear their opposition to the prospect of being inside a hub for 20 weeks.

Marsh and Dangerfield told The Age the AFLPA had only received one proposal from the AFL and had made it clear to the players when presenting it on Tuesday night that a change in government restrictions could lead to less of the season being played in hubs than was being presented. The chances of the AFLPA agreeing to 20 weeks inside hubs was "remote".

AFL sources confirmed the government advice is that border restrictions will be in place until September, though the league has consistently said it must be “agile” if conditions change around COVID-19.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/aflpa-says-chances-of-players-agreeing-to-a-lengthy-stint-in-hubs-are-remote-20200430-p54ong.html
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-quarantine-hubs-20-weeks-in-hubs-worst-case-option-patrick-dangerfield-aflpa-response-afl-season/news-story/0921a36920531f2becdeb5eb8968af1e
https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1255781722609901568

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Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #122 on: April 30, 2020, 07:57:15 PM »
Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense

Outspoken president Jeff Kennett is somewhat bemused by the concern of players over quarantine hubs and Richmonds Neil Balme is blunt in his assessment, ...

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-stars-will-embrace-taxing-hub-plan-despite-query-whether-the-2020-season-was-actually-worth-it/news-story/cca899a804ed10dddd0fe683714f15b5

ps. If someone can post what Balmey says in the article it'll be much appreciated  :).

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Re: Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #123 on: April 30, 2020, 11:16:13 PM »
Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense

Outspoken president Jeff Kennett is somewhat bemused by the concern of players over quarantine hubs and Richmonds Neil Balme is blunt in his assessment, ...

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-stars-will-embrace-taxing-hub-plan-despite-query-whether-the-2020-season-was-actually-worth-it/news-story/cca899a804ed10dddd0fe683714f15b5

ps. If someone can post what Balmey says in the article it'll be much appreciated  :).

Veteran Richmond football manager Neil Balme said the AFL’s quarantine proposal “doesn't make a lot of sense” for all of footy’s young fathers.

“Ideally you would bring your families into the hub, but doing that immediately makes it difficult too, because all of a sudden they are captured in the hub as well,” Balme said.

“So they can’t do anything (in there) and that’s not ideal, either, because you’ve got a wife and three kids and they want to go to kindy and all of a sudden you are in Darwin or something.

“The positive is the optimism around the (prospect that) we will play is stronger now than it was two weeks ago. Whatever we have to deal with we will deal with, but let’s try to be reasonable about it.”

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #124 on: May 01, 2020, 03:20:23 AM »
Cheers amc11  :cheers.


A fly in, fly out model is now the AFL's top plan to restart the season

A fly in, fly out model is now the AFL's top plan to restart the season, but will depend on advice from National Cabinet.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/a-fly-in-fly-out-model-is-now-the-afls-top-plan-to-restart-the-season-but-will-depend-on-advice-from-national-cabinet-ng-17c5776a3dcf406f16b78117a4fb90ae

It is a measure of the difficulties that the AFL, the players and the clubs would confront in these highly hypothetical hubs that the league has called in the nation's biggest company, BHP, and the Australian Defence Force, to help with the planning for them.

Now, the league is privately saying that there might only be a hybrid hub model, a half-way house between being locked-up and staying at home at particular times.

... the people whom Gillon and the gang need to persuade first are the governments' chief medical officers, who will review the AFL (and NRL) plans for returning to play on Friday in what shapes as one of their most important moments in the return-to-play campaign.

Provided they convince the medical officers that their health and safety protocols cut the COVID mustard, the AFL then will be relying on the relevant state governments either,
a) opening the borders in Western Australia, South Australia and Queensland,
or
b) allowing the AFL a special exemption to charter planes, fly in and fly out, for the specific purpose of playing West Coast, Fremantle, the Crows, Port and the Queensland clubs.

Since the Murray is allowed to be crossed by teams from Victoria and NSW, travel between those states should not be an issue.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/they-called-in-bhp-and-the-troops-but-the-afl-s-hubs-might-not-fly-20200430-p54os9.html

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Re: Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #125 on: May 01, 2020, 09:23:18 AM »
Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense

Outspoken president Jeff Kennett is somewhat bemused by the concern of players over quarantine hubs and Richmonds Neil Balme is blunt in his assessment, ...

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-stars-will-embrace-taxing-hub-plan-despite-query-whether-the-2020-season-was-actually-worth-it/news-story/cca899a804ed10dddd0fe683714f15b5

ps. If someone can post what Balmey says in the article it'll be much appreciated  :).

Isn't Jeff Kennett head of Beyond Blue??

The suicide rate for FIFO workers doing 4 weeks on 4 weeks off is very high, and he's not concerned that players won't see family for 5 months??
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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #126 on: May 01, 2020, 03:25:02 PM »
“My information overnight is that if these hubs do occur, they’re gonna be four, five, six weeks,” he said.

“Then we’ll revert to that fly-in, fly-out model… footy might not need these hubs.”

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/tom-browne-s-update-on-how-the-afl-can-avoid-quarantine-hubs-160469


Yes. Reliably told a short time ago HIGHLY unlikely they [hubs] will be required.

https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL/status/1256065496794841089
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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #127 on: May 01, 2020, 03:28:46 PM »
Prime Minister Scott Morrison says the national cabinet will release national principles for sport and recreation, including elite sport, today.

A national decision on easing restrictions will now be made next Friday, on May 8, several days earlier than initially planned.

In an effort to make it earlier for the AFL and NRL to restart, consistent national health advice will be given to all states - meaning the leagues can deal with states as a group, rather than individually.

Australian Minister for Youth and Sport Richard Colbeck has explained the three-stage process that will see sport recommence across the country.

“Theres a set of high-level principles which have been developed by the AHPPC (Australian Health Protection Principal Committee) taken up by national Cabinet that will provide that overarching framework for the recommencement of sport across the country,” he said.

They are again... very heavily guided by work that’s been done by the Australian Institute of Sport... also along with Chief Medical Officers from a number of the national sporting organisations and national codes have had input into the work the AIS has coordinated. That contemplated a staged recommencement of sports, it indicated the types of activities at various levels that might be considered as part of that process.

We are currently at ‘Level A’. As the national Cabinet considers opening up the capacity to move around the opportunity then goes to ‘Level B’, which talks of commencing training in small groups of say up to 10 with 10 athletes and officials working together and then ‘Stage C’ which goes back to full training and full commencement.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-the-one-value-saints-legend-believes-uncertain-players-can-gain-from-isolation-hubs/news-story/5c9eaeebe32fc9748862e2e3664f2dc0

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #128 on: May 01, 2020, 04:19:54 PM »
Thanks for posting that OE.
I did watch the presser from Morrison and Murphy (aka the Two Stooges) and gathered that was the decision.

The National Cabinet met to consider and came up with some more guidelines.
The sport organisations now go away and come back with a plan that the cabinet will then consider BUT this leaves open the question that the only way they can re-open is dependent on states relaxing border restrictions which as has been said, are illegal.

A - where we are at with no training with more than two
B - up to ten can train together.
C - normal
No mention of quarantine, no mention of testing, No mention of travel, no mention of full training, no mention of matches.

Just more kicking the can down the road. 

I did hear Morrison say something about Border Force having control over the travel of the NZ Warriors and their advice hasn't changed.
So they can'r enter Oz and therefore can't start any 14 day quarantine before play starts. Wonder how Benito Dutton feels about that one being lobbed in his lap.

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Re: Neil Balme on why AFL's hubs don't make a lot of sense (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #129 on: May 01, 2020, 09:17:53 PM »

Isn't Jeff Kennett head of Beyond Blue??


No, hasn't been for 4 or so years now

Julia Gillard is the current chair of Beyond Blue. Appointed on the recommendation Jeff Kennett
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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #131 on: May 02, 2020, 03:45:43 AM »
AFL on track for late June return as restrictions set to ease

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Essendon have asked all players to be back in Victoria by May 11.

But the options for the AFL's return will depend on the restrictions in each state, with the door appearing open for travel to and from Queensland after the Queensland government allowed the NRL to do so on Friday. This leaves Western Australia and South Australia, which have closed borders, as the key states in organising a return to play.

The AFL could even have at least one game with a crowd - in the Northern Territory, where two games had been scheduled - after the NT said it was open to crowds for the AFL.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/optimism-grows-for-afl-as-federal-government-flags-looser-restrictions-20200501-p54p3d.html

The Gold Coast is in the box sit to become the AFL’s quarantine hub city after the Queensland Government opened its borders for NRL teams, according to 7NEWS reporter Tom Browne.

AFL officials are hopeful of the season restarting next month and sources have told Browne they believe all 18 clubs could be based in the Sunshine State.

“Club sources I’ve spoken to are really positive about this return schedule,” Browne said.

“Everyone is going off the hub idea but I still think based on sources I’ve spoken to that they will be used for the first four to six weeks of footy.

“The aim in an ideal world is footy will restart by the second half of June and they’re on track.”

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/what-qld-opening-borders-for-nrl-means-for-afl-c-1012087

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #132 on: May 02, 2020, 02:47:41 PM »
GF set for Oct 31.

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Gillon McLachlan has set a target of October 31 to complete the 2020 premiership season and the AFL chief is increasingly confident long-term hubs won’t be required to achieve that goal.

Some players have baulked at the prospect of going into an isolation hub for up to 20 weeks, but McLachlan moved to allay fears that would be required in a teleconference with the 18 club captains on Friday.

However, shorter-term hubs are still in play to get the season restarted, with McLachlan confirming Queensland has given the AFL permission to fly teams in and out of the state without going into quarantine.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/afl-chief-executive-gillon-mclachlan-sets-october-31-target-to-complete-the-2020-premiership-season-ng-b881536341z
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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #133 on: May 03, 2020, 05:42:13 AM »
AFL could move to Stage B from May 11

Football could be back up and running in just six weeks, 7NEWS has revealed.

Reporter Tom Browne said a conference call between AFL CEO Gill McLachlan and all 18 club executives on Saturday was a success with a return date pencilled in.

“Footy is on track to return in mid to late June,” Browne said.

“Footy training in groups of 10 could be from May 11.”

Confirmation of a re-start to training, in groups of 10, from May 11 is set to be announced in a few days time, 7NEWS revealed.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/afl-set-to-restart-2020-season-in-just-six-weeks-despite-coronavirus-restrictions-ng-b881536496z

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The league must work with each state on limits to gatherings that affect the ability of teams to train together and border restrictions before arriving at a model for the 17-round season.

“They’re the last two pieces and then we’ll be able to start rolling out things like fixtures and training dates and season start dates,” McLachlan said.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-coronavirus-australia-news-updates-queensland-gold-coast-hub-idea-plan-proposal-system-concept/news-story/ebf1a357fa1b53d80b25790c1d6a48ca

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With October 31 a loose deadline, AFL grand final venue remains uncertain

The AFL could find themselves in a race against time to guarantee the 2020 grand final is played at the MCG after declaring on Saturday they aim to complete the season by the end of October.

The MCG - which has the contract to host the grand final until 2057 - is certain to be available for the AFL until October 10 before the venue begins preparations for the ICC T20 World Cup.

The first ICC World Cup match at the MCG is scheduled for October 25 with the final to be played on November 12. There are six T20 matches scheduled at the MCG for the tournament.

Sources suggested that although the ICC is still bullish about the T20 World Cup taking place, there was still some potential for negotiation between government and sporting bodies around where a grand final might be played if the AFL season went late into October.

Perth Stadium is scheduled to host ICC T20 World Cup matches from October 24-October 30.

The league owns Marvel Stadium, allowing them flexibility in determining venues for matches outside the traditional football season.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-and-covid-19-with-october-31-a-loose-deadline-grand-final-venue-remains-uncertain-20200502-p54p97.html

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Re: 2020 Fixture
« Reply #134 on: May 03, 2020, 02:47:30 PM »
Five days a week, delayed blockbusters: How rebooted AFL season could look

Caroline Wilson has outlined how the AFL will look when games get underway again in the coming months.

Wilson told the ABC the AFL could announce how the 2020 season will look as soon as Friday and that she expected it to recommence by mid-June.

Unlike the NRL, Wilson said the AFL will announce a return-to-training date, a full fixture and a potential Grand Final date in the one hit.

“There’s 16 rounds to play and the absolute ambition is to finish the season by the end of October. The Victorian Sports Minister hinted last week that the Victoria Derby might be moved to a Sunday,” Wilson told Offsiders.

“There’ll be four day breaks – that’ll be the shortest break players will be asked to have.

“They still haven’t made a decision about interchange benches, but I expect them to widen because of this.

“There is a suggestion that bigger games, such as ‘Derbies’ and ‘Showdowns’, might be pushed back towards the end of the year in the hope there might be some crowds, or to make things more interesting.

“But there are two fixtures at the moment and we’re going to know a lot more (soon).

“I know Roy (Masters) thinks that people need a carrot and a (start) date. That date, Gillon McLachlan assured the players, the CEOs and the presidents in the last few days, will come very, very soon.

“There’s going to be a lot of games. I think footy will be played, definitely four days a week and probably five days a week for the next few months.”

Wilson added that a hub situation would likely take place in WA due to the strict quarantine measures that were still in place.

Wilson said she expected the season to restart as early as June 11.

“If you say that the AFL will make an announcement at the end of this week about a return to training date – as early as next Monday, so eight days away when they can train in groups of 10, if the Victorian Government comes to the party – you could probably ambitiously add five weeks to that,” she said.

“If we’re thinking a Thursday night start, June 11, and as we sit here today June 18 at the latest. That’s what the AFL networks are telling me as well.”

The Queensland government recently gave the all-clear for the three NRL clubs in its state to resume training, helping the NRL’s bid to restart the competition by May 28.

Wilson said that move would also benefit the AFL and likely avoid the league from implementing a hub scenario that could see teams spend up to 20 weeks in isolation.

“The fact that we know that they can go to Queensland in a fly-in, fly-out basis and play games of football – they believe that will also take place in other states by the time footy does get off the ground – it’s going to save the AFL a huge amount of money,” she said.

“Charter flights are nothing compared to the apparent $40 million cost to put players into so-called ‘hubs’ for all that time, so that was a big one.

“I’m amazed it’s moved this quickly, the broadcasters are amazed it’s moved this quickly. It was only three weeks ago that we’re talking about late July – Olympics timetable – dates and the players have had their minds set at rest as well.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-fixture-2020-afl-coronavirus-news-updates-how-season-could-look-caroline-wilson/news-story/928447e8835395ec42ddde145bf165d7
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/05/03/how-will-footy-look-when-the-season-resumes/