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NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« on: March 05, 2020, 02:40:12 PM »
NT v Tassie: Who should be AFL’s next expansion club?

Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
5 March 2020


The Northern Territory is plotting a shock bid to join Tasmania in the race for an AFL license.

AFL NT is set to unveil a 100-page report, which has been funded by the NT government, by the end of March exploring the viability of a 19th or 20th AFL franchise.

AFL NT officials are eyeing the establishment of team by 2030 that would be dominated by indigenous players and play out of Darwin and Alice Springs.

A driving factor in the push to secure an AFL club is the region’s alarming drop off in draftees.

Representation peaked at about 30 AFL players 10 years ago, but that has since dropped by about 50 per cent as the likes of Relton Roberts, Troy Taylor, Shane Thorne and Zephaniah Skinner did not last at Victorian clubs.

While elite talents such as Cyril and Daniel Rioli, Zac Bailey and Brandon Parfitt will always get selected, the region wants its prospects to stay in contention deeper in the draft.

Those stars could return home as franchise players under the radical plan.

It was expected that as many as 20 or 25 Territorians would be on the list of its AFL club.

Unlike the Tasmanian Taskforce, which is campaigning for an expedited entry to the AFL, the NT is aware it will require about 10 years to get up to scratch.

AFL NT chief executive Stuart Totham was tight-lipped yesterday, but confirmed: “The report’s complete and we’re looking to release at the end of the month”.

The feasibility study was commissioned by AFL NT, funded by the NT government and completed by marketing company Bastion Collective.

Sources close to the document said it tackled three key issues: what the financial model, facilities and talent pool would look like for the prospective club.

Options including upgrading Darwin’s 12,500-seat TIO Stadium or building a new venue were discussed.

AFL NT is acutely aware that, with retention a key issue at Gold Coast, it would be hard convincing players to relocate to Darwin.

Last year’s AFL NT restructure was geared towards arresting the slump in draftees from the region and the introduction of a local AFL club would dramatically aid that cause.

While the region’s climate small population would be a concern, in addition to the strong indigenous presence there are also several large mining businesses located north.

The report did not address whether the NT should be granted a new license or take over an existing license.

The AFL says it is committed to Gold Coast’s survival, however the expansion club now has a strong footprint in the NT.

Gold Coast will host St Kilda at TIO Stadium in Round 11 this year, which is the first of a four-year commitment to play games in Darwin.

The Suns were last year granted unfettered access to Darwin prospects for the next three years through their expanded talent academy.

The inclusion of both NT and Tasmanian teams would complete a truly national 20-club competition for the first time, eradicating the need for a weekly bye.

With Tasmania expected to be included this decade, other options being canvassed at league headquarters to retain an even number of clubs include introducing a third South Australian or West Australian club.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/northern-territory-set-to-join-tasmania-in-bid-for-new-afl-licence/news-story/09e952c189ab027dd75b9195aed2ba47

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2020, 09:36:47 PM »
Suns and North should GTFO of their respective states and head to NT/Tas.

Imagine the SA and WA melts about NT home ground advantage lol

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2020, 03:26:45 AM »
Former Tiger gives thumbs up for Darwin team

Sam Landsberger and Jon Anderson
Herald Sun
6 March 2020


Northern Territory great and newly-elected Member of Parliament Joel Bowden has endorsed a future AFL club to be based out of Darwin.

The former Richmond star pointed to the success of four-time NFL Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers, from the small town in Wisconsin, as evidence an NT team could work.

“You’ve got to go to the (United) States for the comparative analysis – the Green Bay Packers,” Bowden said yesterday.

“Green Bay have got a city of 200,000. (But) they invest, they attend every game, it’s packed out, you can’t get a ticket because they all have memberships, and they’ve been one of the most successful teams in NFL history.

“That’s the model the Northern Territory in the north could adopt and should (adopt).”

Bowden, 41, has returned to live in the NT since he won two All-Australian guernseys and two best-and-fairests across his brilliant 265-game career for the Tigers.

Bowden said the climate would not be a problem, despite football season running through wet summer months and cricket held in winter.

Darwin has a population of 132,000, while Alice Springs is 25,000.

“Conditions are easy. What’s required is commitment from all sides,” Bowden said.

“That’ll be the government, that’ll be the AFL, that’ll be the community – and it’s a long-term goal.”

While there would be significant financial challenges, the AFL pumped a record $27.5 million into the embattled Gold Coast Suns last year.

Per capita more people play Aussie rules in the Territory than anywhere else and the romance of an NT club would capture the football world.

The Herald Sun yesterday reported that a 100-page scoping document that mapped a 10-year plan for the NT to win an AFL license had been completed.

The feasibility study, set for release later this month, was commissioned by AFL NT, funded by the NT government and completed by Bastion Collective.

NT chief minister Michael Gunner told the Herald Sun yesterday: “This study will tell us what steps need to be taken to make the dream of a Territory AFL team a reality.

“Territorians love their footy, and we produce some of the AFL’s top players. We deserve our own AFL team – but this is a long term vision.”

Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon wants Tasmania and the NT to be granted AFL licenses to create a truly national 20-club competition.

Recruiters believe modern football is marginalising indigenous players, making it increasingly difficult for clubs to draft talent from remote areas.

But an AFL club based in the Northern Territory would deliver a clear pathway that would help grow the talent pool.

NT has produced legends including Andrew McLeod, Michael Long and Cyril Rioli and an AFL club would be dominated by indigenous talents.

In 2014 Brisbane Lions legend Michael Voss coached against a Desert All-Star team that was handpicked after a four-day carnival contested by 12 indigenous communities.

“You can’t tell me we didn’t just play a bunch of blokes who could be playing AFL,” Voss said immediately after the exhibition match at Hermannsburg Oval, about 130km southwest of Alice Springs.

“I looked at a few today and thought, ‘My god, there’s speed to burn, they cover the ground, they’ve got great skills and they’re marking the footy well’.

“We look abroad, we go the Irish experiment, we go the American experiment, we go to China, we go to Papua New Guinea but maybe we should go ‘man, you seen what’s in your own backyard?’”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/newly-elected-member-joel-bowden-endorses-an-afl-team-in-darwin/news-story/f516e6c9fe20c3978fcb6d334299c79c

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2020, 02:47:43 PM »
Not a hope in hell

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2020, 09:50:33 AM »
why not if they can generate $40-50 million a year they can have a team. 20 team league would be good.

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2020, 01:52:39 PM »
Green Bay has a similar population to Darwin (120-130k) but the Packers rely on support from Milwaukee as well which has a larger population of ~600k. They are more like Geelong relying on not only local support but also support from Cats fans in Melbourne.

                                                 Avg.
Melbourne   5.2m   9.5 teams      550k
Geelong      250k    0.5 teams      500k   ...  (Cats supporter split b/w Geelong & Melbourne).
Adelaide      1.3m       2 teams     650k
Perth           2.2m       2 teams     1.1m
Sydney        5.3m       2 teams     2.6m ... ( in a NRL state )
Brisbane      2.4m       1 team      2.4m  ... ( in a NRL state )
Gold Coast   570k        1 team      570k ... ( in a NRL state )

Hobart         250k         -
Launceston  130k
Tassie          522k         -
Darwin         130k         -
NT               250k         -

Neither Tassie nor especially the NT has the population (& corporate support) to support their own newly created AFL team. Tassie might be able to do it now if North was relocated so they combine local support statewide with with retained Roos fans in Melbourne.

The city that could probably support another new AFL club based on population is Perth but only if you could split off a chunk of the Eagles supporter base to follow a new club. IIRC, the largest WAFL club East Perth did try to join the old VFL in the early 80s.
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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2021, 06:46:56 PM »
Team 19? Northern Territory’s bold bid for an AFL club takes the next step

The Northern Territory’s bid for an AFL team has reportedly taken another step forward.

AFL NT chief executive Stuart Totham confirmed to AAP on Wednesday that a detailed report has been completed, outlining a proposal to become the competition’s 19th team.

Tasmania is also in the process of bidding for a new AFL license; it is likely that if the league does expand, it would want to expand to 20 teams, so that it can add a valuable 10th game each weekend to the broadcast deal.

“The report has been completed for some time,” Totham told AAP on Wednesday.

“The release of that report into a team for the NT is close by.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-northern-territory-expansion-19th-team-team-in-darwin-tasmania-afl-nt-latest-news/news-story/b3bd7159b5ba4bfae1819c798503b8ac

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2021, 07:18:28 PM »
No chance. :shh
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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2021, 06:33:02 PM »
The Northern Territory’s bold bid for an AFL team is unlike anything seen in Australian sport

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/an-afl-team-in-the-top-end-it-s-not-as-out-there-as-you-might-think-20210830-p58n90.html



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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2021, 04:25:00 PM »
A taskforce has been announced to make the case for a Northern Territory team to be included in the AFL moving forward.

Channel 7 Melbourne Managing Director Lewis Martin and former Melbourne and Essendon CEO Peter Jackson are two of the people named on the taskforce, with a report into the feasibility of a team to be tabled in 2022.

AFL NT Chairman Sean Bowden, who is also on the taskforce, said that if Tasmania is eventually named the League’s 19th team, then Northern Territory also had a strong case to be included.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/29/why-a-northern-territory-afl-team-makes-sense/

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2022, 06:54:14 PM »
Potential 20th AFL club in Darwin’s $300m stadium plan ahead of expansion business case

Max Laughton
Fox Sports
May 26th, 2022 4:33 pm


The Northern Territory is hoping to build on the momentum for AFL expansion being built by Tasmania, with a taskforce commissioning a business case study to become the 20th team, reports Seven.

The Apple Isle will learn whether it will be given the 19th license in August, when the AFL Commission is scheduled to vote - though a clear majority of the existing clubs must also be on board.

There is a strong groundswell of support for a Tassie team, with legendary coach Alastair Clarkson saying “it’s just wrong” an Aussie rules heartland state isn’t represented in the national competition.

The business case is the main concern, with some club presidents reportedly concerned with the investment required to keep a club going in a smaller market.

It’s a similar situation in the top end, where in the hearts of footy fans the NT deserves a club, but the economics of the situation are tricky. A report commissioned by AFLNT last year found a team would run at a yearly loss of $15 million, on an annual operating cost of $45 million.

That is sure to provoke more concern from club presidents who are already often frustrated at the financial support given to the 17th and 18th clubs, Gold Coast and GWS.

Seven reports the NT AFL Team Taskforce will attempt to ease those concerns with a business case study from PriceWaterhouseCoopers about a club’s viability.

Included in the bid is a proposed $300 million, roofed 25,000-seat stadium, even closer to the Darwin CBD than the existing TIO Stadium, which is already just a 15-minute drive away.

Given the local weather and the small size of the Darwin market - with an estimated population of around 133,000, it’s less than two-thirds the size of Hobart, which itself is unlikely to host every game for a Tassie team - Alice Springs is likely to be used by any potential NT club.

March and the start of April are the end of the Darwin rainy season, with roughly half of all days in March seeing rainfall.

That would likely see Alice Springs used to host early-season matches, before the team moves 1500km north for the rest of the year.

Renders of two potential designs for the stadium have been released.


The proposed roofed new Darwin stadium, via NT AFL and Seven.


Inside the proposed roofed new Darwin stadium, via NT AFL and Seven.


A second proposed Darwin stadium, via NT AFL and Seven.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-expansion-20th-team-northern-territory-darwin-stadium-plans-alice-springs-tasmania-finances-cost-price/news-story/9c578ce31f94c6b2aa31e88cc7c64da8

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Re: NT seeking its own AFL club by 2030
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2022, 10:56:20 PM »
Great just north Norf Melb there and they can be Norf Teratree.

Suns can go down to Taz.