Selected Team - Round 5

[mightytiges]

what amazes me, is players like tivendale. i have watched every replay since getting back from italy, and dont understand why so many supporters are rating his games this year. his poor kicking and decision making have influenced  many bad trends and losses, esp in perth! he still stuffs up and its contagious.

at least when krak gets hold of the ball he uses it with perfection

I not so concerned about krak looking lazy as he does use the ball well but he just doesn't win enough footy consistently to use his skills. Good sides can carry cameo players who pop up once in 6 weeks and win a game off their own boot but we aren't a good side yet. Far from it.  For a player in his 6th year (yes he start a year earlier than most) we need to demand more. IMO he should have been given 3 games to show he can win the ball every time and not have sub 10 disposal games as often as he does.

As for Tivs. He seems to have been played more "inside" so far this year and that's showing up in his tackle stats. There's still the old Tiv moments but he's at least this year doing more positive things for the team than negative such as winning his own footy and leading our inside 50 stat.

[letsgetiton!]

as i have been away for the first 4 weeks, my season starts now. i will reserve most of my judgements on players til round 10. by then if krak isnt having a krak, i will be the first to give him the boot, same goes for gas, tiv and all our other non skilled players who cannot dispose of the ball properly

[letsgetiton!]

well its qtime, and even though tiv has a fluke goal, his disposal has been appalling!
sugar is captain and lets hope he improves in teh second quarter
and my beef qith cogs continues, this is the guy we should trade, vastly overrated, cant kick with precision and penetration, and usually picks the wrong option. hartigan better learn to hit a target quick smart or he is gone also

[Bulluss]

X

Atleast the guys you mentions above are getting the ball. Everyone's disposal was down tonight.

Krak is a waste of space and thats it. He needs a min of 2-3 weeks of good performances at Coburg before he should be let back into the team

i would rather us try blokes like Limbach etc even Polo for that matter as they are our future. Krak is certainly not in our future.

[mightytiges]

Almost fell off my chair when I got home and found out Krak had as many as 15 disposals. Sheesh his efforts without the footy were woeful last night. The only thing that will save him from WP's dreaded turnip award will be Rodan's game. Agree with Bully that 2-3 weeks at Coburg should be the minimum. 

[PuntRdRoar]

Rodan is gone as a league footballer, no speed, no tricks, disposal poor. Rodan, Krakouer and Stafford should make way next week. Its time for more new blood. If Dean Polo plays well tomorrow he deserves a chance for Rodan, Danny Meyer or Daniel Jackson should come in for Krakouer and Knobel should come in for Stafford.

[Bulluss]

I totally agree that Rodan really stuggled last night.

When Marc Murhpy came on he took Rodan apart, i no he was no1 pick but Rodan should be able to hold his own.

I agree with Ramps that he is finished as a league footballer in my opinion.

[Mopsy]

Rodan is gone as a league footballer, no speed, no tricks, disposal poor. Rodan, Krakouer and Stafford should make way next week. Its time for more new blood. If Dean Polo plays well tomorrow he deserves a chance for Rodan, Danny Meyer or Daniel Jackson should come in for Krakouer and Knobel should come in for Stafford.

I'm with you there Ramps

[letsgetiton!]

rodan is a joke, always has been. last night was the end of him imo.


now krak, he had a few bad disposals, not as many as others, but he did what he had to do. kicked 2 goals, created fwd line pressure, kicked goals when needed, and used his brain!

he will play next week, he is 2-3 weeks away from bagging 6

[mightytiges]

rodan is a joke, always has been. last night was the end of him imo.


now krak, he had a few bad disposals, not as many as others, but he did what he had to do. kicked 2 goals, created fwd line pressure, kicked goals when needed, and used his brain!

Sorry X but I have to disagree with the bold comment. Walker got free of Krak a number of times and many of his "efforts", especially in the first half, were simply nowhere good enough for this level.

[Bulluss]

I think Rodan and Krak need to go back to Tiger Tafe and take a class in defence.

They dont understand it.

Maybe a class in accountability of you opponent also.

[letsgetiton!]

well from the footage i saw, in the first q , krak hardly had any game time if not any, in the second quarter, he also had minimal game time, in the second half , where he played mostly on the park and not on the bench, he kicked 2 goals , should have been 3 and i dont recall him ever playing on walker. But i do recall him working hard and doing most thinkgs right. watch the replay and listen to what the commentators were saying, maybe they were watching his performance with the same glasses that i was.

[Bulluss]

Yeah with Beer goggles 

[WilliamPowell]

well from the footage i saw, in the first q , krak hardly had any game time if not any, in the second quarter, he also had minimal game time, in the second half , where he played mostly on the park and not on the bench, he kicked 2 goals , should have been 3 and i dont recall him ever playing on walker. But i do recall him working hard and doing most thinkgs right. watch the replay and listen to what the commentators were saying, maybe they were watching his performance with the same glasses that i was.

And there in lies the problem X, the footage. As is the norm, the TV shows the bloke who has the ball and those close by. What it doesn't show you is the blokes 10 metres way or further up the ground. I've watched most of the replay and the TV as usually doesn't give the whole picture and makes some people look better then what they actually were.

Krak was terrible on Friday night. Sure he snagged 2 goals but for the majority of the night his disposal was terrible. The things I usually praise him for were at times were non-existent. There were times (and these don't show up on the footage) where he didn't chase or if he did he didn't chase hard enough. There times when he stood back and didn't help his team mate when they needed help (more on that in the a moment)

Krak ... He needs a min of 2-3 weeks of good performances at Coburg before he should be let back into the team

And that's been my arguement all along Bull. What is the point of sending a bloke back to the magoos for a week. Sure he may get a heap of the ball but guess what? THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. But what I want to see is them do it consistently. I really don't understand what message one week at Coburg and then being recalled sends to ALL the players 

ANd just on blokes (and I am not talking about just Krak here) standing back and not going into help their team mates (ie just standing by letting someone else do the hard stuff)  - I was shocked the number of times this happened on Friday night - IMO not acceptable 

[Moi]

Well, i can't see Krak getting dropped for this week's indigenous game, so perfect opportunity for him to have a good one.
X, he had a shocking first half last week - lazy as hell.  Don't know if you were at the ground, but his efforts were very half-hearted indeed.  Hopefully, he will be motivated this week to do well, although i'd like to see that every time he runs onto the ground.