Major stuff up in Freo-Saints game

[mightytiges]

With Freo up by a point, the Umps didn't hear the siren and allowed the game go on for another 10 seconds which allowed the Saints to score a point and draw the game  ???. 

[Moi]

Freo won - how crook is that 

[mightytiges]

Is that hard to get a decent siren! 

[Fishfinger]

That bloke in the paddle boat generating Tassie's electricity on a smoko again.
The timekeepers are supposed to keep their finger on the button until the umpire/s acknowledge the siren. Feel sorry for Freo.....sort of.

[Bulluss]

i think they might upgrade it before we play the Hawks there in June, well they better anyway!!

[Moi]

Freo have lodged a protest.  Doubt they'd be successful.
Has any team ever appealed a result before and won?

[mightytiges]

I doubt Freo will succeed appealing as it wasn't as though St Kilda cheated. The stuff up was at the AFL's end (umps and timekeeper).

That bloke in the paddle boat generating Tassie's electricity on a smoko again.

 

The timekeepers are supposed to keep their finger on the button until the umpire/s acknowledge the siren. Feel sorry for Freo.....sort of.

Yeah FF, it was a stuff up all round. The ump had blown the whistle so the timekeeper shouldn't have pressed the siren until after the ball was bounced. Then the timekeeper should have kept pressing the siren until the umps heard it.

Reminds me of the 1987 U19's GF when the North timekeeper pressed the final siren too early just as a Richmond player ran into an open goal to put us in front. Ripped off big time .  

[mightytiges]

Ch 9 say the protest has been dismissed so the result stands  ???

[mjs]

I agree that the siren is meant to sound continuously until acknowledged by the umpire.

Also - how did the umpire actually end the game? One of them had to put their hands up to call game over but on what signal? Did they just take someone's word for it? If they didn't hear it they should stil be playing.

Freo choked by the way - they had possession with about 80 seconds to go and were seven points up and turned it over twice in that period.

[Capt. Revenge]

god that was funny!!!  i wish it had been carlton and collingwood playing tho.  absolutely fawlty towers out there!!!!

loved every precious moment of it!!!!!!

[one-eyed]

Here's the official rules - Page 34 of the link below:

10.4 BRINGING PLAY TO AN END

10.4.1 End of Quarter
The Timekeepers shall sound the siren to signal the end of a quarter until a field Umpire acknowledges that the siren has been heard and brings play to an end.

10.4.2 Siren Heard by Field Umpire
Play in each quarter shall come to an end when any one of the field Umpires hears the siren.

10.4.3 Signal
A field Umpire shall signal that he or she has heard the siren by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above his or her head. If immediately before hearing the siren, a field Umpire is of the opinion that a Player should be awarded a Free Kick or a Mark, the field Umpire shall signal that play has come to an end and then award the Free Kick or Mark to the Player.

http://afl.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/157506an.pdf

[mightytiges]

If the AFL sticks by the second rule above then they won't overturn the result if though Freo were robbed.

And just to throw another quirk into this stuff up - on the Saints forum they are saying according to SEN the time clock on the tv jumped forward 9 seconds in the last quarter - Link  ???.

Btw Freo supporters aren't too happy - Link

[one-eyed]

i think they might upgrade it before we play the Hawks there in June, well they better anyway!!

We'll fix sirens
01 May 2006   Herald Sun
Jamie Tate

AURORA Stadium venue manager Robert Groenewegen last night conceded the siren at his ground was not loud enough yesterday.

"The AFL has already said to us that we need a louder siren and that's what we'll be doing," Groenewegen said just hours after St Kilda and Fremantle's bizarre draw.

"The siren certainly went off. We haven't done anything differently and we've had no problems with the siren before.

"But we've conceded we definitely need a louder siren or perhaps it's time to get more sirens."

Aurora Stadium has just one siren situated near where the 50m line meets the boundary at the southern end.

"We had a southerly blowing and the ball was at the northern end," Groenewegen said.

With the crowd at fever pitch, play was about 100m from the siren when it blew.

But play continued as it appeared the umpires did not hear the siren and St Kilda's Steven Baker was able to score the point that tied the scores.

"It seems pretty clear that Fremantle were in front when the siren went," Groenewegen said.

The venue will host three more AFL matches this season, the next being Hawthorn-Richmond on June 18 when Groenewegen hopes more than 20,000 fans will attend.

"I dare say we'll probably have a new siren or more sirens by then," he said.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18982355%255E19742,00.html

[F0551L]

 damn  i had the dorckers down as a win for the tipping ripped off big time

[mjs]

I've got another query about that finish:

How can the goal umpire get "all clear" for the first Baker point and then be asked to cancel that point for a new kick to be taken? Did a second umpire overule the "all clear" - if so that's a joke.

Could you imagine the uproar if Baker had kicked a goal?