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The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« on: October 20, 2020, 07:19:22 PM »
The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield

By Daniel Cherny
The Age
October 20, 2020 — 3.49pm


Patrick Dangerfield fronted the media on Tuesday. This was not unusual. A quick check of emails from the Geelong Football Club show that Dangerfield has fronted five formal press conferences since the Cats departed Victoria in early July, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Dangerfield has done countless more interviews for television, radio and print outlets this season – including one with this masthead only last week – and plenty for the club's own website. As president of the AFL Players' Association, he has shouldered an enormous public load in a year of unprecedented workplace unrest. Dangerfield is second-favourite to win the Norm Smith Medal at the Gabba on Saturday night. The man ahead of him on the line of betting is Dustin Martin.

As footballers, Martin and Dangerfield are comparable. Both powerful, explosive beasts, they can be both centre clearance machines and deep forward destroyers. They are both Brownlow medallists and combined have won six AFL best and fairests awards, two Norm Smith Medals and been in the All-Australian team 12 times. The prospect they could go head-to-head this weekend, even briefly, is tantalising.

But in terms of their public presentation, the pair are as different as their haircuts, from Dangerfield's slightly schoolboy effort with a part to Martin's famed mohawk varieties.

Recalling a Martin press conference is like trying to remember him playing a poor final. They have been few and far between. Generally Martin's only mainstream media appearances in recent years have come when he's won an award and has essentially been mandated to speak. Outside of that, it's pretty much zilch, especially since the ill-fated March 2017 press conference in which Martin wanted to promote a Sherrin with former Tigers assistant Mark Williams but wouldn't answer questions about his contract situation.

Journalists barely even bother requesting to speak to him anymore. Last year, Richmond sent out an email on the Saturday following the Tigers' preliminary final win over Geelong saying he was due to join his close mate and captain Trent Cotchin for a joint appearance two days later. But then on the day of the scheduled press conference, Martin pulled the pin and was replaced by Tom Lynch.

So why the discrepancy? A large part of it comes down to personality. Dangerfield is naturally gregarious and has a healthy sense of theatre, even to the extent he has been accused of exaggerating injuries. In classic Dangerfield style, his response in 2017 to that claim from football's provocateur-in-chief Kane Cornes was to wear fake bandages to a press conference. Dangerfield has been comfortable putting his wife Mardi and children George and Felicity into the public spotlight. Hell, they even enlisted master voiceover man Craig Willis to help make the announcement that Mardi was expecting. Dangerfield also hosts a fishing and outdoor adventure radio show.

Meanwhile, Martin is naturally much shyer and scarred by some negative headlines in the past. He has also had to deal with the coverage of his father's deportation from Australia and the ensuing saga.

Dangerfield is managed by veteran AFL player agent Paul Connors, part of Connors' enormous stable, which features many of the stars of the game. Martin, conversely, is taken care of by manager Ralph Carr, who has only a handful of footballers – including emerging Tigers gun Shai Bolton – and for whom the music industry takes up the majority of his business.

Perhaps this explains the distinction, with Carr seeming to be guided by the scarcity principle when it comes to steering Martin and his corporate interests, which have extended to lucrative deals with companies such as Bonds and Jeep.

"We seriously started to plan Dustin's career at an early age – having been a manager [not an agent] for 20 years plus put me in the best position to manage Australia's David Beckham," Carr said on Tuesday.

"His career from the management side was planned from day one, using marketing skills from business and entertainment, and not taking the conventional approach. After all football for the punters is entertainment.

"Dustin is special on and off the ground and understands our plans and strategies as managers ... and is involved and participates in decisions and direction."

Little is known about Martin's private life in Melbourne, which adds to the mystique. It is part of the reason tongues were wagging last year when Martin showed up on Serena Williams' social media page, and why his severing of ties last year with Puma was deemed newsworthy.

Whatever you make of their off-field status though, ultimately it is no good if they can't get it done on the park. Here, Martin and Dangerfield stand apart from most of the pack.

Martin's endorsements
Bonds
Voost
Jeep
Kennedy Luxury/Ro-lex

Dangerfield's endorsements
Coles
Reel Adventures
Hot Wheels

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-contrasting-brands-of-martin-and-dangerfield-20201020-p566rs.html

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2020, 09:17:39 AM »
Give me Dusty over Wankerfield any day, any way.

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2020, 09:32:00 AM »
How is he mentioned in the same sentence lol.

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Dusty v Danger will define the AFL decider. Here’s how it could play out

October 22, 2020
by DAVID ZITA
FOX SPORTS


Fox Footy analyst David King has assessed the role Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield will have on Saturday’s mouth-watering grand final at The Gabba, urging Geelong in particular to buck the trend when it comes to handling Dusty.

Martin was dominant early in Richmond’s preliminary final win over Port Adelaide, finishing with two goals and the most disposals of any Tiger, while Dangerfield had 17 disposals and eight score involvements playing as a forward against Brisbane.

Speaking on AFL 360, King warned the Cats needed to disregard their traditional system for Martin, who is simply “something different”.

“We always go to Dustin Martin. What is it about the planning with Dustin Martin ... he’s been allowed to waltz around the venue pretty much unopposed for three weeks doing whatever he likes and teams saying we’ll back our system,” King said.

“He’s hardly sneaking up on you. He’s the best player in the competition, he’s the best finals player we’ve ever seen.

“If they haven’t got a plan for this guy, shut the gate. This is a regret you’ll have for years if you allow Dustin Martin to be Dustin Martin.”

Pressed on the idea multiple players could rotate through Martin for the decider, King said that tactic was fruitless when faced with the two-time Norm Smith Medallist.

“Handovers don’t work with Dusty because he just takes you to where you’re not strong,” he said.

“I think you just put one player to him, lock him on. If he’s good enough to beat that player, then put another player on him and go again.

“I know it’s not sexy and it’s not endorsing your own group like you’ve done for 20-odd weeks of football, but this guy’s something different.

“You don’t get beaten by what you know - if you allow Dustin Martin to be Dustin Martin, you’re kidding yourselves.”

For Dangerfield, Richmond’s match-up options are just as difficult to manage, with the eight-time All-Australian perhaps only second to Martin for explosiveness and game-breaking ability.

“He’s kicked five goals straight through the finals so far. Last week he only had 17 disposals but they were all damaging and aggressive. He looks like he’s ready for a huge game to be perfectly honest,” King said.

“I’m not sure what the matchup is, I’m not sure what the plan is. He’s the one you talk about coaching concerns (for Richmond) post-match... he’s gone in for three centre bounces last week and won them all. He had eight score involvements against Brisbane and it just looked like he was going through the motions late.

“I just think this is the perfect storm for Paddy to have a huge game and get Geelong over the line. For Damien Hardwick, what’s plan ‘A’, what’s plan ‘B’, when do you go to plan ‘C’?”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-richmond-vs-geelong-grand-final-patrick-dangerfield-vs-dustin-martin-tigers-v-cats-stats-analysis-predictions/news-story/23c33a9863ff3807e96df24d1f31f4b6

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2020, 07:55:21 AM »
Kings a moron what's  plan a,b,c on Danger his coming againt the tuffest defence in the afl.What impact did he have against quality opposition like Port 3 weeks ago.

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 10:36:52 AM »
Gees, the instruction manual on 'How To Beat Richmond' is getting bigger everyday! 
If these journos knew anything relevant about the game they'd be coaching (or still coaching)! 
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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 10:52:05 AM »
Gees, the instruction manual on 'How To Beat Richmond' is getting bigger everyday! 
If these journos knew anything relevant about the game they'd be coaching (or still coaching)!

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Dusty or Danger - who is more important to their side? (SEN)
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2020, 03:16:47 PM »
DUSTY OR DANGER – WHO IS MORE IMPORTANT TO THEIR SIDE?

BY SEN
23 October 2020


Superstar duo Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfield loom large ahead of Saturday night’s historic Grand Final between Richmond and Geelong at the Gabba.

Martin is one of just four players in VFL/AFL history to have won two Norm Smith Medals (2017 and 2019) and shapes as the game-breaker in the Tigers’ quest for a third flag in four years.

After four losing Preliminary Finals, Dangerfield will get his chance to play on the game’s biggest stage for the first time with the Cats out to win a first premiership since 2011.

But which Brownlow Medallist is more important to their side?

Tim Watson believes Martin is more pivotal to Richmond’s chances because of one key statistic.

“Dusty during this finals series has been involved in 40 per cent of the Tigers’ scores – that is extraordinary,” Watson told SEN Breakfast.

“Based on the statistic that I read out before, I think Dusty is more important to Richmond right now than what Danger would be to Geelong.”

Dangerfield has spent more time forward during the finals, but how will he be deployed in Saturday night’s decider against the reigning premiers?

“He’s great, he’s got great power … but he doesn’t always have the finesse around his field kicking out of the centre, and there was some great vision (Fox Footy's Ultimate Preview) about how that led to a turnover and Richmond taking the ball from one end of the ground to the other to score," Watson said.

“I think that was a great underline of why he is probably better suited to playing in the forward line.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/10/23/dusty-or-danger-who-is-more-important-to-their-side/

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2020, 04:46:58 PM »
Dangerfield’s endorsements  :lol :wallywink

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2020, 10:26:00 PM »
Dusty wins

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2020, 10:27:40 PM »
Loved seeing Dangerwank fail that tackle when dusty was icing the cake

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2020, 10:43:50 PM »
Loool

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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2020, 10:51:41 PM »
Dangerfield - Sharp Elbow 2-3 weeks

Dusty - 3 Norm Smith's

Compare the pair
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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2020, 10:54:14 PM »
Dangerfield - Sharp Elbow 2-3 weeks

Dusty - 3 Norm Smith's

Compare the pair
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Re: The contrasting brands of Martin and Dangerfield (Age)
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2020, 11:38:36 PM »
Dangerfield missing when he was needed.

Any chance of any media heat coming at him?