Any Changes v Swans

[PuntRdRoar]

for mine

Knobel in for Stafford
Jackson in for Krakouer
Gaspar & Johnson should come in ... 2 players  who don't deserve it is gonna miss out.

we need bigger bodies this week.

[letsgetiton!]

knobel in 4 stafford
sugar will come in 4 JON or bling, but he should come in for COGS!

krak is safe!
the ? are on the heads of COGS and bling.
Foley will play, we need him in and under v the swans

i would drop cogs, he is slow and disposal pathetic
keep the kids in

ok

here it is

in: knobel, sugar(if fit)
out: staff and cogs

[WilliamPowell]

I doubt Johnson will play this week because we are at  Telstra - hard surface like that may not be great for a bloke with a dodgy hammy problem

If Knobel's fit I'd consider him but I'd be loathed to drop Staffy we need his footy smarts

[bluey_21]

One thing for sure Polo ain't getting dropped

[Tiger Spirit]

i would drop cogs, he is slow and disposal pathetic

X, some of his disposal could be better, but I don’t think he’s alone there.  And maybe you could go back and watch the last quarter of Saturday night’s game, because he may have done some unmemorable things, but believe it or not he did some good things too, which were crucial to the win.  If you care to open your other eye.

In the last few minutes of the game, when we were 9 or 10 points down, who was on the ground and got the handball to Tiv, who goaled, to get us back in the game?  If you said Cogs then you were right.

Then, when the ball was down the other end and the Bombers were pressing to score, who was making sure the ball didn’t get out for them to score?  If you said Cogs then you’re right again.

Just before the end of the game, when the ball came out of our F50 and Ess were trying to get the ball quickly down to their forward line, who was there to take a saving mark, only to be spoiled by a teammate?  If you said Cogs then right again.  Hardly worth worrying about really, seeing as we did win by a whole 2 points.

But we’ll just continue to put the boots in anyway.  At some stage, he may go past his use by date, but between now and then we don’t need to hear it from you every other week.  For whatever reason, we know you don’t like him, but I’m sure the coaches can work things out for themselves.  Without the grudge.

[the_boy_jake]

I'm actually pretty happy with how Coughlan is going too TS. His disposal is ordinary and I think there should almost be a team rule 'Cogs doesn't kick to a contest' but if he can maintain his high workrate and do the tuff stuff in the middle then he serves a purpose well enough.

[letsgetiton!]

u guys cant concince, im tired of watching tigers below standard and in teh team just because they may have tuff qualities. foley is just as good , if not better than cogs in the clinches, and his disposal is far better! tuck also. we cant drop players with skill just because cogs is hard! not good enough.
if u cant kick 9/10 properly, back to coburg u go, we put up with duncan kellaway for far too long and gaspar, these blokes infect the side with bad disposal virus. cogs needs to drop back to a pace suited to him, look at polo, 1st game , and put cogs to shame. JOn looks teh goods to, if sugar is fit, cogs must go

[PuntRdRoar]

I dont believe in devaluing players like Coughlan he shouldnt be dropped, it seems everyone wants the outsider types but remember they gotta get the ball first. Coughlan stays in for mine.

[mightytiges]

The only change I would make is Sugar in if fit. Keep Staff in against his old side and stretch them for height down back alongside Richo. Richo usually does well against the Swannies. A few recent B.O.Gs.

[WilliamPowell]

In the last few minutes of the game, when we were 9 or 10 points down, who was on the ground and got the handball to Tiv, who goaled, to get us back in the game?  If you said Cogs then you were right.

I’ll pay that one – terrific hands

Then, when the ball was down the other end and the Bombers were pressing to score, who was making sure the ball didn’t get out for them to score?  If you said Cogs then you’re right again.

He was one of a number of players (Newman being a standout as well) but agree he was good in tight there.

Just before the end of the game, when the ball came out of our F50 and Ess were trying to get the ball quickly down to their forward line, who was there to take a saving mark, only to be spoiled by a teammate?  If you said Cogs then right again.  Hardly worth worrying about really, seeing as we did win by a whole 2 points.

If this was the play just inside the centre square – then I have to disagree with you on this one TS because from where I was sitting in the Ponsford stand the player attempting to take the mark was Richo (man in front) and the person spoiling was Cogs – it could have been costly

It’s interesting (considering the topic of alternate Guernsey has raised its head again on the other thread) that after incident bg25 (who was one of the people in our group) questioned whether Cogs had got confused with the jumper and mistook Richo’s jumper as an Essendon player in hurly burly pace of the game.

Look I will put up my hand and say I have been pretty critical of Cogs this year and that maybe partly my fault because I have pretty high expectations of certain players but I just do not understand why he persists with kicking on his left foot especially when he is not under pressure.

When he is under pressure I can understand it but when he is under no pressure it doesn’t make sense to me at all because IMHO he just doesn’t have the penetration in kicking on the left side and the left foot kicks have during the season been costly.

Would I drop him? No because we need a good balance of in and under midfielders but his I have to say his kicking is frustrating me no end, exactly like Tiv did last year

[Tiger Spirit]

He was one of a number of players (Newman being a standout as well) but agree he was good in tight there.

We're discussing Cogs, so that's who I'm focusing on WP.  Agree that others were good too.

If this was the play just inside the centre square – then I have to disagree with you on this one TS because from where I was sitting in the Ponsford stand the player attempting to take the mark was Richo (man in front) and the person spoiling was Cogs – it could have been costly

It was in the last minute of play, round about there.

Happy to stand corrected WP, but I'm sure if you watch it again you'll see that Cogs was in front.  Richo came from behind and then attempted to take the mark to Cogs' left side.  If Richo thought he could take it then he should've called Cogs out.

[tiga]

I agree WP, whilst his disposal has been ordinary, I still feel he adds value and experience to the team but if he doesn't improve his disposal soon he has to be Coburg bound. I would probably spell Bling before Cogs at this stage.
If Sugar comes back in, I'll be keeping my usual eye on him as he also has been pretty ordinary on the disposal front so far.

Staff on the mobility side was running like herman munster out there on sat night and was kicking the same way. I expect he will probably be dropped for Knobel.

On Tiv, you can tell he's out of contract at the end of the season. Haven't seen him play this well since the last time he was about to come off contract.    Sure he still makes blunders from time to time but he has that off contract sparkle in his eye and is starting to do some game shaping stuff! If we were able to put him on a weekly incentive based contract, he'd win the bloody brownlow!   

I'd keep Clever and JON in the side and give them another go against the Swans.

Out: Bling, Staff
In: Sugar (reluctantly), Knobel

[mightytiges]

Staff on the mobility side was running like herman munster out there on sat night and was kicking the same way.

 

If Sugar comes back in, I'll be keeping my usual eye on him as he also has been pretty ordinary on the disposal front so far.

Clangers

Matthew Richardson - 19
Kanye Pettifer - 18
Andrew Raines - 13
Greg Tivendale - 13
Shane Tuck - 12
Troy Simmonds - 11
Patrick Bowden - 11
Chris Newman - 10
Joel Bowden - 10
Brett Deledio - 9
Mark Coughlan - 9
Chris Hyde - 9
Brent Hartigan - 9

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No added Sugar 

[Bulluss]

Would we be too tall if we played Knobel and Staff, considering we are playing at the Dome. More than likely under the roof and in dry conditions.

If we have Richo, Staff and Simmo/Cleve rotating up forward and Knobel/Simmo rotating in the ruck i doubt the swans could cover them all. I suppose we have to get it down there first also.

[tiga]

The last time we went in with more talls was against the Dogs. Don't like the idea. We could get run off our feet again by the smaller swans outfit.