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Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« on: May 02, 2021, 04:42:18 AM »
Not only the 2020 GF rematch but also the first time since the 2019 Prelim we meet at the 'G. So good memories for the Cats  ;D.

AFL Round 8

RICHMOND vs Geelong


Friday, 7th May @ the M.C.G.

Start time:  7.50 pm


Bookies (Sportsbet):
Richmond   $1.67
Geelong     $2.31


Recent meetings:

2020 GF:   Richmond   12.9-81    def.     Geelong     7.8-50
2020 R17:  Geelong     4.7-31    lost to.  Richmond  7.15-57
2019 PF:    Richmond  12.13-85   def.     Geelong    9.12-66   

https://www.afl.com.au/matches/3082

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2021, 09:07:27 AM »
Won 6 of the last 7, and every single time when it really matters.

Nice to have that on them. I hope they fall off a cliff and always remember a period of 'couldabeen'

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 06:54:11 PM »
Even with all our outs we still match up well on Geelong.

You expect Astbury to get Hawkins and Balta gets Cameron.

Seems Geelong will bring in Higgins which could mean Narkle goes out. So they'll be older and slower if that happens.

Like most games we've had against Geelong, if we can match/beat them in the middle then our forward line can exploit the Cats' iffy backline.

B:  Broad       Astbury         Mansell
F: G.Rohan    T.Hawkins      B.Close

HB:  Vlastuin           Balta            Short
HF: L.Dahlhaus   J.Cameron    B.Parfitt

C: McIntosh          Edwards               Pickett
C: I.Smith        Q.Narkle or Higgins    Z.Tuohy

HF:  Rioli           Martin         Castagna
HB: T.Atkins     T.Stewart       J.Clark

F:   Riewoldt        Lynch           Bolton
B: L.Henderson   M.Blicavs      J.Henry

R: Nankervis        Ross          Graham
R: R.Stanley      M.Duncan     J.Selwood

I/C: Aarts, Houli, R.Collier-Dawkins, Baker
I/C: J.Bews, C.Guthrie, S.Menegola, G.Miers
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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2021, 12:01:59 PM »
Why Tigers will have to buck the trend to win Grand Final rematch

By Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
5 May 2021


RICHMOND will have to defy its recent history to upend Geelong in Friday night's Grand Final rematch at the MCG.

Not reverse the head-to-head record – the Tigers have won six of the past seven against the Cats – but their knack of losing to the opponent they defeated in the previous year's decider.

While reigning premiers in the past 20 years have generally had the better of a Grand Final rematch, Richmond has done just the opposite.

Following their drought-breaking flag in 2017, the Tigers fell victims to Adelaide by 36 points in round two the following season.

On that occasion, Josh Jenkins and Taylor Walker bagged nine goals between them and Rory Laird ran riot with 42 disposals.

And then after dismantling Greater Western Sydney to win a second premiership under Damien Hardwick in 2019, Richmond was beaten by the Giants in round five last year by two goals, thanks largely to Toby Greene.

GWS star Toby Greene celebrates a goal against Richmond in round eight, 2020. Picture: Getty Images
For the majority of this century though, the premiers have had their way, winning 12 of 20 rematches by an average of 33 points.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/607695/why-tigers-will-have-to-buck-the-trend-to-win-grand-final-rematch

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Beating Richmond easy in theory but harder in practice, Chris Scott says

afl.com.au/AAP
5 May 2021


"The theory around trying to play Richmond is well understood; it's the execution that's much, much harder," Scott said on Wednesday.

"They're clearly still the benchmark, even with some important players out, and they've been able to show that their system stands up.

"That's probably been their mantra for a little while.

"They would like Martin in a certain position or Prestia or Cotchin, but other guys can come in and fulfil those roles, if not quite as well then well enough to really trouble the opposition."

Despite its recent losses to Richmond, intersected by a 67-point win at the MCG in mid-2019, Scott doesn't believe Geelong has been far off the pace.

"Most times we've played them we've had a really good look," he said.

"There are some parts that we look at and, when we get the game on our terms, the next part is how do we make sure we finish the job.

"That's so easy to say and the theories are easy.

"The planning is actually relatively easy against Richmond and it tends to be against the best sides because their exposed form for a long period of time is so clear."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/608017/beating-richmond-easy-in-theory-harder-in-practice-chris-scott-says

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2021, 07:39:36 AM »
The Cats have had Richmond on toast at half time in the past two finals series, but have surrendered the lead on both occasions.

Ross Lyon and Matthew Lloyd take a look at how the Cats can capitalise on their early leads.

Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1389916843725447173


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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2021, 04:30:53 AM »
Round 8 preview - Richmond vs Geelong

Ben Waterworth, Max Laughton and Matt Balmer
Foxsports
7 May 2021


Tigers’ burning question: Will Tom Lynch have his kicking boots on early?

It was a frustrating start for the Richmond forward in Round 7, booting five behinds before he slotted his first major. All of those came in the opening half, leaving Lynch 0.5 heading into the main break - and it came after a week where he was declared “average” by Mark Robinson. A superb third term saved the Tigers, and Lynch, but the Cats may not be as forgiving, meaning it will be mighty important for Richmond to get on the scoreboard early - especially with Tom Hawkins and Jeremy Cameron getting things working at the other end. Lynch kicked just the one goal in both games against Geelong last year, but broke the 2019 prelim apart with five. He’ll want to be closer to the latter than the former.

Cats’ burning question: Who will try and stop Dusty?

If not for an injury to Mark O’Connor, Chris Scott’s would’ve had an obvious player to send to the Richmond superstar. It’s extremely pressing given Martin got off the chain and was judged the best player on the ground the last time the two teams met. While Martin doesn’t have a strong record against Geelong, in terms of polling in the Brownlow, he has shown an ability to be a crucial player in battles between the two teams. Without O’Connor, it will be interesting to see how the club best goes up against the Tiger, with another player potentially being given the big task.

Fox Footy expert tipsters’ verdict: Richmond 8 — 5 Geelong Cats

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-round-8-2021-tipping-fixture-preview-the-blowtorch-tips-predictions-fox-footy-commentators-analysis/news-story/9a7475010f6b0f02783150e693a967f3

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2021, 04:38:38 AM »
Grand final revenge? Key Cats owe it to themselves to lift

Wayne Carey
The Age
May 7, 2021


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Just who gets Martin will be intriguing.

As Cats coach Chris Scott said during the week, you can beat him eight out of 10 times, but he can still slaughter you.

The absence of Jake Kolodjashnij, along with Mark O’Connor who’s done some important jobs this year, means the Cats may have to look left field for Dusty’s opponent this time around.

Melbourne’s Michael Hibberd showed it is possible to quell his influence.

For Dusty, I’m looking at either Zach Tuohy or Tom Stewart. Tuohy is quick, powerful and has a bit of mongrel, but maybe not the tank to follow Martin all game.

Scott may not want to sacrifice Stewart’s intercept marking ability, but he can match Martin aerially.

While Richmond proved last week they can win without Dusty, I suspect the loss of Trent Cotchin will ramp up their reliance on him.

Still, that’s just one part of the game the Cats need to get right. For Geelong, any revenge will only come with all 22 players buying in.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/grand-final-revenge-key-cats-owe-it-to-themselves-to-lift-20210506-p57pl4.html

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2021, 04:27:25 PM »
HAVE THE CATS SHIFTED TACTICS ALREADY?

Foxsports
7 May 2021


While Geelong’s recent game plan has been put under the microscope, Leigh Montagna and David King believed there had already been a shift from Scott during 2021.

“I think there’s still this misconception that Geelong are playing the way they played in 2020. Certainly in the first couple of weeks they were, but in the last month they have certainly changed their style,” Montagna explained on Fox Footy’s AFL 360.

“They are evolving as a football team and are much more aggressive. They are now the No.1 handball team in the competition, they are flicking the ball around much more, they are kicking the ball longer and taking the game on. Play on percentage they’d gone from 13th to 5th, they move the ball quicker and they are looking to use the corridor more.

“They are playing more aggressive. It was the case against the Eagles and the first half against the Swans.

“Over the course of the season, Geelong are the No.1 team from moving the ball from the defensive mid zone to inside 50. It is a much more intent to go quicker, they are looking to get the ball moving much more than they have in previous year.

“When they are getting to that launch pad between 50 and 70 metres, they are attacking the top of the square and prepared to kick the ball longer.

“Their ability to flick it around. We know it troubles Richmond, Melbourne did it. They’re evolving, not playing the slow and kick game.”

King outlined how Geelong had won all the crucial statistics during recent battles against Richmond, but simply couldn’t get it inside 50 and threaten by kicking a winning score.

“They lose six games a year and two to Richmond. Does Chris Scott change the way he plays to beat one team? Because you are going to run into them in finals,” King said.

“Richmond have won six of the last seven, in those games they (Geelong) won six clearance battles by an average of +6, so they get the game going their way.

“They smash them at contested possession, + 17, they smash them in terms of controlling the game +35 disposals in those seven games. Yet they have lost the inside battle in six of the last seven battles.

“So they get a heap of ball and they play their way and it doesn’t score and doesn’t go inside 50. And then in a ten minute window, the Tigers go bang, bang, bang and land three blows and the game is over. So change is required.”

King pinpointed one change on the field which saw Geelong guarding the corridor heavily, making teams kick long to a contest.

“I think they’ve made changes to beat Richmond. You don’t just make offensive changes, you give up something to get something,” he said.

“Without the ball… we’ve seen the role with Gryan Miers. He’s on the wind just in front of the logo, that’s a strange position, we don’t see players there. They want to force the opposition down the line.

“On the weekend this is going to be the ball that decides the match, the long ball. They were poor at this last week against Sydney and got easy opportunities out the back. They’ve been fantastic at denying opportunity.

“That’s the game this week. They’ve been waiting for this. I think they’ve embraced imperfection and taken precious out of it, they use to be really low turnover.

“In a lot of ways Geelong games were boring to watch because there wouldn’t be contest, now it lives in contest. That’s the difference. They’ve got more corridor available, it’s trending a little to how Richmond play.

“This year they are the No.1 team at winning the ball back close to their goal.”

“I think they are realising you need to take territory and play imperfect football,” Montagna added.

“We saw in that Grand Final, as soon as you miss a kick, Richmond swarm and kick a goal. They’re saying now, take territory and let’s move the game on quicker.

“They are a great contest side.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-richmond-vs-geelong-afl-grand-final-2020-chris-scott-damien-hardwick-cats-game-plan-fox-footy-afl-360/news-story/3268654536bbbfd74e767f1e2fe619fd

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2021, 05:36:33 PM »
Simple equation for us use our speed break the game open and apply plenty of pressure and intensity.Stewart needs to made accountability to.Take our chances and like last week look up in our forward 50 don't just bomb it.We need a good start to recently been very slow to work in the game.Small brigade has to lift to.

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the MCG --- Round 8, 2021
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2021, 07:13:56 PM »
Agree georgie. Need a 4 qtr effort tonight as the Cats will after revenge. Geelong have gone with an older & slower side tonight (more than usual). So as you say we need to use our pace to advantage and pressure their mids, wings & half-backs into mistakes to force turnovers & deny Hawkins/Cameron easy marks. Last week Lynch marking everything covered up our small forwards still being off. They need to finally step up tonight and as you rightly pointed out not allow Stewart especially to be free on his own.

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