Richmond recruiter Matt Clarke's draft reviews (Fox Footy & SEN)

[one-eyed]

Matt Clarke on Fox Footy just now talking about our haul:

- Really excited. Filled needs on our list. Thrilled.

- Tyler Sonsie one of the most talented in the draft. Injury has hampered his development. So he has lots of upside.

- Great to have Banksy on our list. He's a good kid.

- It's good to bring a group of kids through together in a wave.

[Rampsation]

Matt Clarkes national draft record the last 4 years had been pretty ordinary. Lets hope hes done better with this batch.

[WilliamPowell]

Matt Clarkes national draft record the last 4 years had been pretty ordinary. Lets hope hes done better with this batch.

 

They are kids and think it is not unreasonable to give them some time to develop

Think people tend to forget that the last 2 years there has been little VFL footy for our kids to learn and develop

2020 and again for most of this season blokes not playing AFL played scratch matches with other clubs, so you'd see our kids on the same team as leftovers from other teams.

Not the best learning environment I wouldn't have thought

Let's just wait and see how things go before right off the last 4 years of recruiting and kids that have played less than a dozen games

[Owl]

bit hard to push into a side winning grandfinals when you are still a spring chicken

[one-eyed]

Here's the vision of Matt Clarke's interview on Fox Footy:

Watch: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1033628/-we-re-rapt-to-get-our-boys-clarke?videoId=1033628&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637832180001

[Rampsation]

Matt Clarkes national draft record the last 4 years had been pretty ordinary. Lets hope hes done better with this batch.

 

They are kids and think it is not unreasonable to give them some time to develop

Think people tend to forget that the last 2 years there has been little VFL footy for our kids to learn and develop

2020 and again for most of this season blokes not playing AFL played scratch matches with other clubs, so you'd see our kids on the same team as leftovers from other teams.

Not the best learning environment I wouldn't have thought

Let's just wait and see how things go before right off the last 4 years of recruiting and kids that have played less than a dozen games

Just based on national draft selections nothing else.

2017
Jack Higgins - Gone and done nothing with us or St Kilda
Liam Baker - tick
Callum Coleman Jones - Gone to Norf done Nothing
Noah Balta - tick
Patrick Naish - Gone Delisted
Ben Miller - 1 game, Question Mark as to future

Just 2 ticks in that group so far

2018
Riley Collier Dawkins - Question Mark
Jack Ross - Looks Ordinary after bright start - Question Mark
Fraser Turner - Delisted
Luke English - Delisted

No ticks 2 maybes at best. Nothing exceptionsl here.

2019

Thomson Dow - Question Mark Shows signs a Maybe
Noah Cumberland - hasnt played - Question Mark
Will Martyn - Dont rate him on performance so far
Hugo Ralphsmith - Ill give a tick Just.
Biguo Nyuon - Hasnt played - Question Mark at best

1 tick 3 Question Marks

2020
Samson Ryan played hasnt shown much - Question mark
Maurice Rioli - Father Son only shown glimpses

0 ticks so far

2021
Josh Gibcus
Tom Brown
Tyler Sonsie
Sam Banks
Judson Clarke

All just drafted. So no judgement can be made.

Based on that we have 3 ticks in 4 years. Matt Clarke needs to have picked some decent players this draft because our national draft selections have been ordinary at best and theyve hidden behind the 3 premierships delivered by players drafted between 5 and 10 years ago.

[Andyy]

That's unfortunately true Ramps.

I believe kids need a few years or so to show themselves, but I also believe that true talent finds a way. Higgins got games with us because he showed plenty IMO.

After 3 years you can call it on most of them.

How many players make a real go of their career after being on a list for 3-4 years?

[Rampsation]

Clarke needs 3 out of this 5 to be good players. Hopefully theyve nailed this because if they havent and this group falls away its going to be hard yards over the next decade.

[Diocletian]

That's unfortunately true Ramps.

I believe kids need a few years or so to show themselves, but I also believe that true talent finds a way. Higgins got games with us because he showed plenty IMO.

After 3 years you can call it on most of them.

How many players make a real go of their career after being on a list for 3-4 years?

How many players have had two years of their first 3-4 only playing in barely a dozen competitive matches in total including an entire year of just scratch matches & glorified training drills whilst stuck in quarantine 1000 miles from home and having all their momentum from a breakout game in a VFL GF stopped dead it's tracks? 

Or looked like an exciting inside prospect until some big Na'vi from Freo fell on their foot and then they were told to slim down and made to play an outside role that  nullified their strengths and amplified their weaknesses (and funnily enough then played their first good senior game in two years after finally being moved back on ball)?

[camboon]

Has had much to work with seeing they were mostly last  picks in the group, so this years hand will be the real test.
Didn’t like the targeting of Brisbane academy players, hasn’t worked to date.

[Knighter]

Agree the Brisbane academy guys look at bust at this stage. 

Clarke is on his last chance in my book.  He either nails this draft or we move him on.

[Rampsation]

I reckon Clarke gets time to see what this 2021 group achieve and what they show. He needs this group of 5 to be decent senior players. If this group is a bust I think change has to happen.

[the claw]

As far as im concerned we won three flags on the back of some quality mids a very good KPF which became two  and a very good kpd and third tall/kpd. Also a game plan and style that was different to everyone else a style that now looks like its becoming  redundant.

Well those mids are getting long in the tooth along with our key forwards and we just went out out of need to trade in a 32 year old defender.

Im in no way having a go at the kids we have drafted but Gibcus aside i m scratching my head at the lack of addressing what appears to be our biggest list needs.

Even Gibcus was not an urgent list need but i can see why we would go after a highly rated kpd having just been forced to take a 32 yr old to cover for Astbury.  Give Tarrant his two years and Gibcus can come in and partner Balta setting up our kpd positions for yrs to come.
In taking Gibcus i have to ask  what does that say about the chances of Miller and Nyuon in the clubs eyes?
And thats a part of the point Balta, Tarrant, Grimes Nyuon and Miller it was not the biggest list need by some margin if Nyuon and Miller are any good.

How are Brown and Banks huge list needs. fmd we have Vlastuin Broad Stack Short Rioli and Mansell the oldest is Broad at 27 28.

He is Not my type but Short plays Houli's role to a tee soft outside reciever who runs and is given the ball to deliver. Rioli is what 24 and just been moved into a running role off h/b and apparently the club and supporters are over the moon with him in the role.
Mansell and Stack are more accountable types but both have shown an ability to do what the other two do to varying degrees.
How is taking two uncontested hbf addressing list needs when we have so many similar types already there.

Sonsie at least is a mid albeit a small one who has fallen of a cliff almost. How many small mids do we have again.

Clark well you could make a case for us taking him with Castagna and Aarts demanding regular games there is only Maurice junior and im not sure about him.
The counter argument here is we have plenty of Mid forwards who can and do  play fwd.

It just seems to me we missed a trick here. With the picks we had we really did have an opportunity to address some of our more pressing list needs and failed to do so imo.

[georgies31]

As far as im concerned we won three flags on the back of some quality mids a very good KPF which became two  and a very good kpd and third tall/kpd. Also a game plan and style that was different to everyone else a style that now looks like its becoming  redundant.

Well those mids are getting long in the tooth along with our key forwards and we just went out out of need to trade in a 32 year old defender.

Im in no way having a go at the kids we have drafted but Gibcus aside i m scratching my head at the lack of addressing what appears to be our biggest list needs.

Even Gibcus was not an urgent list need but i can see why we would go after a highly rated kpd having just been forced to take a 32 yr old to cover for Astbury.  Give Tarrant his two years and Gibcus can come in and partner Balta setting up our kpd positions for yrs to come.
In taking Gibcus i have to ask  what does that say about the chances of Miller and Nyuon in the clubs eyes?
And thats a part of the point Balta, Tarrant, Grimes Nyuon and Miller it was not the biggest list need by some margin if Nyuon and Miller are any good.

How are Brown and Banks huge list needs. fmd we have Vlastuin Broad Stack Short Rioli and Mansell the oldest is Broad at 27 28.

He is Not my type but Short plays Houli's role to a tee soft outside reciever who runs and is given the ball to deliver. Rioli is what 24 and just been moved into a running role off h/b and apparently the club and supporters are over the moon with him in the role.
Mansell and Stack are more accountable types but both have shown an ability to do what the other two do to varying degrees.
How is taking two uncontested hbf addressing list needs when we have so many similar types already there.

Sonsie at least is a mid albeit a small one who has fallen of a cliff almost. How many small mids do we have again.

Clark well you could make a case for us taking him with Castagna and Aarts demanding regular games there is only Maurice junior and im not sure about him.
The counter argument here is we have plenty of Mid forwards who can and do  play fwd.

It just seems to me we missed a trick here. With the picks we had we really did have an opportunity to address some of our more pressing list needs and failed to do so imo.

Claw again a post with no sense.How we got the players to win 3 flags is bold recruitment so Francis Jackson doesn't deserve credibility ? I guess Mickey mouse picked them.Don’t forget with comprised drafts. You said it 3 flags endof story.

On to Clarke jury still out , but I'll  back the club and recruitment department.

[the claw]

As far as im concerned we won three flags on the back of some quality mids a very good KPF which became two  and a very good kpd and third tall/kpd. Also a game plan and style that was different to everyone else a style that now looks like its becoming  redundant.

Well those mids are getting long in the tooth along with our key forwards and we just went out out of need to trade in a 32 year old defender.

Im in no way having a go at the kids we have drafted but Gibcus aside i m scratching my head at the lack of addressing what appears to be our biggest list needs.

Even Gibcus was not an urgent list need but i can see why we would go after a highly rated kpd having just been forced to take a 32 yr old to cover for Astbury.  Give Tarrant his two years and Gibcus can come in and partner Balta setting up our kpd positions for yrs to come.
In taking Gibcus i have to ask  what does that say about the chances of Miller and Nyuon in the clubs eyes?
And thats a part of the point Balta, Tarrant, Grimes Nyuon and Miller it was not the biggest list need by some margin if Nyuon and Miller are any good.

How are Brown and Banks huge list needs. fmd we have Vlastuin Broad Stack Short Rioli and Mansell the oldest is Broad at 27 28.

He is Not my type but Short plays Houli's role to a tee soft outside reciever who runs and is given the ball to deliver. Rioli is what 24 and just been moved into a running role off h/b and apparently the club and supporters are over the moon with him in the role.
Mansell and Stack are more accountable types but both have shown an ability to do what the other two do to varying degrees.
How is taking two uncontested hbf addressing list needs when we have so many similar types already there.

Sonsie at least is a mid albeit a small one who has fallen of a cliff almost. How many small mids do we have again.

Clark well you could make a case for us taking him with Castagna and Aarts demanding regular games there is only Maurice junior and im not sure about him.
The counter argument here is we have plenty of Mid forwards who can and do  play fwd.

It just seems to me we missed a trick here. With the picks we had we really did have an opportunity to address some of our more pressing list needs and failed to do so imo.

Claw again a post with no sense.How we got the players to win 3 flags is bold recruitment so Francis Jackson doesn't deserve credibility ? I guess Mickey mouse picked them.Don’t forget with comprised drafts. You said it 3 flags endof story.

On to Clarke jury still out , but I'll  back the club and recruitment department.

Sheesh where did i mention Francis Jackson in that post or clarke for that matter.. I am happy to have another debate about how poor Jackson had been but really do we have to its been done to death.

The post was primarily about not addressing our most pressing list needs you obviously managed to fail to grasp that.I mentioned aging mids and key fwds along with Rance and Grimes who were the backbone to our success and we are not doing much to replace them.